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From: Ian Stakenvicius <axs@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] need for autotools
Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2016 11:35:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <01ee0bdf-a0a7-4485-0c34-096b5ebdfd37@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <16eff12b-0a21-23aa-a829-f7531f593e3c@gentoo.org>


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On 25/10/16 11:34 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
> On 25/10/16 11:05 AM, Nick Vinson wrote:
>> On 10/25/2016 07:11 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote:
>>> Don't you need autoconf and automake to build a lot of packages?
>>
>> Theoretically no.  When autotools is used correctly, the release tarball
>> has no dependency on either.  That said, many people don't generate /
>> distribute a release tarball.
>>
>> However, I don't think this is the criterion used to determine what
>> should be in @system.  The wiki defines the system set as the set that
>> "contains the software packages required for a standard Gentoo Linux
>> installation to run properly".
>>
>> That definition definitely excludes automake and autoconf (arguably gcc
>> should also excluded, under that definition, so the wiki might not be
>> 100% correct).
>>
>> -Nicholas Vinson
>>
> 
> Unless you need to patch the build system, in which case you need to
> re-run autoconf/automake/etc (usually via 'eautoreconf').  And there's
> -plenty- of instances of that around as well.
> 

I forgot to mention that autotools.eclass brings in these dependencies
as-needed, though, so I agree that they definitely are not required in
the @system set.


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  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-25 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-25  0:43 [gentoo-dev] Commented packages in the @system set Michael Orlitzky
2016-10-25 14:01 ` Alexis Ballier
2016-10-25 14:03   ` Kristian Fiskerstrand
2016-10-25 14:11     ` Raymond Jennings
2016-10-25 14:16       ` Alexis Ballier
2016-10-25 15:05       ` Nick Vinson
2016-10-25 15:34         ` [gentoo-dev] need for autotools (was: Commented packages in the @system set) Ian Stakenvicius
2016-10-25 15:35           ` Ian Stakenvicius [this message]
2016-10-25 15:41             ` [gentoo-dev] need for autotools Kristian Fiskerstrand
2016-10-25 15:47         ` [gentoo-dev] Commented packages in the @system set Mike Gilbert
2016-10-25 16:49           ` Michał Górny
2016-10-26 10:22           ` Raymond Jennings
2016-10-26 18:55             ` Peter Stuge
2016-10-25 16:27         ` Rich Freeman
2016-10-26  0:40         ` Benda Xu
2016-10-27  0:19         ` waltdnes
2016-10-27  1:10           ` Peter Stuge
2016-10-27  2:54             ` Walter Dnes
2016-10-27  3:14               ` Rich Freeman
2016-10-27 11:46                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2016-10-27 13:07                 ` Michael Mol
2016-10-27 13:21                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-10-27 14:41                     ` Michael Mol
2016-10-27 15:22                       ` Rich Freeman
2016-10-28  1:27                     ` Kent Fredric
2016-10-28  1:49                       ` Rich Freeman

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