From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 18916 invoked by uid 1002); 15 Aug 2003 03:48:21 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 29415 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2003 03:48:20 -0000 Message-ID: <01a501c362e0$10af0dd0$1401a8c0@punx> From: "matt c" To: "gentoo-dev ML" References: <200308142200.31146.vapier@gentoo.org> <20030815030911.GB24879@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 20:48:18 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] making metadata.xml pay off and removing pkg_postinst crud X-Archives-Salt: 33a35fbc-f2ac-457a-a114-4873b19bcb69 X-Archives-Hash: ff92a65bc8bb8c729e43bf7e8f7603bf >From: "Zack Gilburd" >Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 8:06 PM >Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 1.4 final against rc's >This notion has been expressed over and over again -- and it's a very good >one. I, too, think that Gentoo should move away from the concept of >definitive releases. However, it would be very hard to distinguish landmark >releases from eachother without some sort of versioning system. I think that's the point though - Gentoo does not have a versioning system, nor does it need one. It is an OS in constant metamorphosis. It's like telling people "I'm 30 years old" - you're not really 30, you're 30 years, 5 months, 2 days, etc. >I really have no ideas on how else it should be done, but it does need a >change. Some users feel obligated to reinstall, and do so needlessly. I think that's because Gentoo is trying to use a versioning system that is applied to other "set" operating systems - set implying specific versions of binaries getting shipped with the packaged OS, and these are updated en masse each version. To have the latest release you DO have to upgrade with upgrade CDs or other like ilk. The ONLY set packaged OS Gentoo has (AFAIK) are the stages. Perhaps instead of calling it Gentoo 1.4 it should be something like Gentoo Stage1-1.4, etc. Gentoo LiveCD-1.4. Change the install documentation to point out that the install images are the only thing getting changed each version increment, and that each time they do an --update world they are effectively getting the latest version of gentoo. Calling it Gentoo 1.4 is a really a misnomer and is also misleading. (Puts 2 cents in tip jar) Matt -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list