[gentoo-dev] Install

[gentoo-dev] Install

[Bryce Porter]

Hello,

I was wondering basically 2 things. Firstly, can I install Gentoo without
burning a CD? And secondly, can I install Gentoo over a previous install
of RedHat (I have partitions for everything basically, /, /usr, /var,
/home, /home/x86, /tmp, and /mp3). I want to keep my home dir and mp3's,
everything else can go. Is this possible?

Thanks for your help.
Bryce

[gentoo-dev] INSTALL

[Shawn Pringle BSc]

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I noticed a few errors installing gentoo.  The current build instructions do 
not allow for machines configured for DHCP.  So, I am going to ignore those 
new instructions and refer to the build instructions on the CD-ROM:  T

Included is the new file and a unified diff so you can see all of the changes 
I propose.  Ofcourse, this works but there is a lot of errors when my gentoo 
boots up before I get a command prompt, but I do get a command prompt.

The first hunk of the diff corrects a symbolic link error.  The second creates
some directories that cause some packages to complain it isn't there
(no such file or directory) during instalation.   Maybe there can be two 
versions one for internet with static ips and one for cdrom installs.

Shawn Pringle

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Gentoo Linux 1.0_rc5 Install Instructions
Version 1.0.2
30 Jun 2001

First, head over to:
http://www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/releases/1.0_rc5/isos/

You will see two bootable iso images.  One is 42Mb, and contains a ix86 build
image only.  You can use this system to build a specially-optimized Gentoo
Linux system from scratch.  The second is 618Mb, and contains a huge amount of
i686-specific binaries.  To use this CD, you'll need a system with a P6 or
P6-compatible core, such as a Pentium Pro/II/III/4 or Athlon.  Also, a note for
SCSI users: this new boot CD will boot from nearly any modern IDE CD-ROM, and
nearly any modern SCSI CD-ROM, and includes support for all Adaptec, Buslogic,
Initio, NCR, Symbios, Tekram controllers (and more!).

OK, here's how to install the gentoo-i686-exclusive-bin-1.0_rc5.iso.

1. Download and burn the ISO image.

2. boot your system with the CD in the drive :)

3. at the login: prompt, type "root" and hit enter.

4. at this point, you should create your partitions, LVM logical volumes or
   software RAID volumes, as desired.  LVM is supported, and we will have 
   instructions on how to create an LVM initrd soon.  Until then, the LVM 
   option is only for the Sistina guys and those who are really LVM-saavy :)
   fdisk and cfdisk are at your disposal.  Make sure to format your swap
   partition using "mkswap"; we'll use this swap area in a bit.

5. mount your root partition to /mnt/gentoo and your boot partition to 
   /mnt/gentoo/boot (create these /mnt dirs first).  If you are setting up Gentoo
   Linux with a separate /usr or /var, these would get mounted to
   /mnt/gentoo/usr and /mnt/gentoo/var, respectively.

   IMPORTANT NOTE: if your *boot* partition is reiserfs, be sure to mount it
   with the "-o notail" option so GRUB gets properly installed.  Make sure 
   that "notail" ends up in your new /etc/fstab boot partition entry, too.

6. Type:
   # export ROOT=/mnt/gentoo
   (This tells Portage where to install all the files)

7. Type:
   # mkdir /mnt/gentoo/etc
   # ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.profile
   (This tells Portage that we want to install the "default" system profile)

8. Type:
   # mkswap /dev/hdxy
   # swapon /dev/hdxy
   (Replace /dev/hdxy with the device containing your swap; this enables swap
   which will probably be needed by the next command)
   # cd /mnt/gentoo
   # mkdir -p tmp var/qmail/control lib proc sbin bin
   (Creates a tmp directories which will be used for package accounting,
   	and other directories that will be needed for instalation)
   # emerge --usepkg system
   (This tells Portage to install a basic system to ${ROOT})

9. OK; even if you'd like to custom-compile your own kernel from the bootcd
   (yes, this is possible!) you need to emerge our default kernel package.
   Everyone should do this:
   
   # emerge /usr/portage/packages/All/linux-2.4.4.9.tbz2

   If you want to compile your own kernel, I'll show you how in a bit.

10. If you need network connectivity for any reason, you should load the
   appropriate NIC module now:
   # modprobe 3c59x

11. Type:
   # mount --bind /usr/portage /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage 
   # mount --bind /mnt/cdrom/gentoo/packages /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/packages
   # mount --bind /proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
   (This gives you access to /proc and the packages even after the chroot)

12: Now, it's time to chroot:
   # chroot /mnt/gentoo

13. Now, do some basic initialization:
   # rm /etc/make.profile
   # ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default /etc/make.profile
   # unset ROOT
   # env-update
   # source /etc/profile
   # /etc/rc.d/init.d/initscripts-install

14. You can now emerge any packages in /usr/portage/packages/All that you'd
    like to install:
	# emerge --usepkg /usr/portage/packages/All/xfree-4.1.0.tbz2
	(the --usepkg option is important)
   
15. If you want to compile your own kernel, do this:
	*First*, edit /etc/make.conf (with vim; if you don't like vim, emerge
	your favorite editor .tbz2 in /usr/portage/packages first)
	
	*** set your USE variables appropriately (uncommenting the default USE ***
	*** variable lines is the recommended approach                         ***
	
	# emerge /usr/portage/packages/All/linux-sources-2.4.4.9.tbz2 (2.4.4-ac9)
	# cd /usr/src/linux
	# make menuconfig
	# make dep; make clean; make bzImage; make modules; make modules_install
	# depmod -a
	# cd /boot/boot
	# mv bzImage bzImage.orig
	# cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage .
	ta da!

16. At this point, your Gentoo Linux system should be equivalent to a bare-bones
    system image.  A number of things still need to be set up, including:

	/etc/fstab
	/etc/localtime
	/etc/make.conf (if you haven't already)
	/etc/rc.d/config/basic (for keymap, etc)
	/etc/rc.d/config/inet.eth0 (for ethernet)
	/etc/hostname
	/etc/resolv.conf
	/etc/hosts

	(For further instructions, see the "Gentoo Linux CD Installation Guide" at
	http://www.gentoo.org, read from the "/etc/fstab" section onwards)

17.  One last step -- configure GRUB to boot your system.  Again, for further
    detailed instructions on this, see the "Gentoo Linux CD Installation Guide"
	at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/install.html -- GRUB configuration is covered
	near the end of the document.

You're done!  Reboot and enjoy Gentoo Linux 1.0_rc5!  We'll be updating the Web
site with new documentation in a couple of days, and will be posting instructions
for the ix86 build iso soon. 



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--- /mnt/cdrom/doc/INSTALL-bin-1.0_rc5.txt	Sat Jun 30 13:02:44 2001
+++ doc/comp/gentoo/INSTALL-bin-1.0_rc5.txt	Sat Aug 25 14:30:28 2001
@@ -43,13 +43,19 @@
    (This tells Portage where to install all the files)
 
 7. Type:
-   # ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default /etc/make.profile
+   # mkdir /mnt/gentoo/etc
+   # ln -s /usr/portage/profiles/default /mnt/gentoo/etc/make.profile
    (This tells Portage that we want to install the "default" system profile)
 
 8. Type:
+   # mkswap /dev/hdxy
    # swapon /dev/hdxy
    (Replace /dev/hdxy with the device containing your swap; this enables swap
    which will probably be needed by the next command)
+   # cd /mnt/gentoo
+   # mkdir -p tmp var/qmail/control lib proc sbin bin
+   (Creates a tmp directories which will be used for package accounting,
+   	and other directories that will be needed for instalation)
    # emerge --usepkg system
    (This tells Portage to install a basic system to ${ROOT})
 

Re: [gentoo-dev] INSTALL

[Parag Mehta]

Hi Shawn!

* Shawn Pringle BSc assembled some ascibets to say:
Shawn >
Shawn >I noticed a few errors installing gentoo.  The current build instructions do 
Shawn >not allow for machines configured for DHCP.  So, I am going to ignore those 
Shawn >new instructions and refer to the build instructions on the CD-ROM:  T
Shawn >   # mount --bind /usr/portage /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage 
Shawn >   # mount --bind /mnt/cdrom/gentoo/packages /mnt/gentoo/usr/portage/packages
Shawn >   # mount --bind /proc /mnt/gentoo/proc
Shawn >   (This gives you access to /proc and the packages even after the chroot)
Shawn > diff
Shawn >+   # mkdir -p tmp var/qmail/control lib proc sbin bin

you don't need /proc to be created for /mnt/gentoo as it is already binded before chroot

Best Regards,

pm
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Gentoo Linux		http://gentoo.org

[gentoo-dev] install

[Network Administrator]

1/23/02

I am a windows NT admin who has been very excited about linux for about 9 months.  I've been getting as much experience with it as I can.  Yesterday I started your install routine after reading about your distribution in a article.  It sounded very apealing.  One thing I haven't liked is all the junk that comes with most distributions even when installed in expert mode.  So eventhough I am pretty new at linux I thought I would give it a try.  Your installation instructions were great.  I had no trouble intill I got to "Final network configuration".  I have no idea how to properly edit the /etc/init.d/net.eth0 script.  I skipped that step, finished up then rebooted.  I get a banner pop-up that says I need DEVFS support.  I went back into "make menuconfig" and I do not see anything about DEVFS.  So, I need a proper network config script and a DevFS tip.

Patrick Kelley
Network Administrator
mis@venusmagnum.com

Re: [gentoo-dev] install

[yannick.koehler]

Network Administrator wrote:
> 
> 1/23/02
> 
> I am a windows NT admin who has been very excited about linux for about 9 months.  I've been getting as much experience with it as I can.  Yesterday I started your install routine after reading about your distribution in a article.  It sounded very apealing.  One thing I haven't liked is all the junk that comes with most distributions even when installed in expert mode.  So eventhough I am pretty new at linux I thought I would give it a try.  Your installation instructions were great.  I had no trouble intill I got to "Final network configuration".  I have no idea how to properly edit the /etc/init.d/net.eth0 script.  I skipped that step, finished up then rebooted.  I get a banner pop-up that says I need DEVFS support.  I went back into "make menuconfig" and I do not see anything about DEVFS.  So, I need a proper network config script and a DevFS tip.
> 
> Patrick Kelley
> Network Administrator
> mis@venusmagnum.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev

I'm also new with gentoo and got the similar issue.  DEVFS is actually
/dev, so inside your kernel option find the FileSystem menu and go
inside.  Then look for /dev filesystem and check it in.  This is what
they mean by DEVFS.

Or... to my understanding, I've not tried it but... they claim that you
can put an option inside grub to make the thing work without devfs. 
Something like

gentoo=nodevfs

Again that one I've not tried but I solved with the first solution.

Yannick Koehler

[gentoo-dev] Install

[Glen.Gilbertson]

I am using a Token Ring network. On step 4 of the install I type in

# dhcpcd tr0

I receive the error that this is not ethernet.

Do I have to use a static IP, or do you know of a solution?

Thank you.

Re: [gentoo-dev] install

[jim]

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On  1 Feb, Network Administrator wrote:
> install went well but I get a couple of errors
> 
> When I boot I get a message:
> Mounting local file systems
> 	Mount: mount point 0 does not exist
> 
> And when I shut down I get:
> Swapoff: /dev/SWAP
> 	no such file or directory

Blame it on nano. It wraps lines (and it's not obvious it has done so).
You need to go into fstab with a real editor (vi, emacs, etc) and fix
them, the pass/dump values are wrapped to the next line.

jim

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[gentoo-dev] install

[Network Administrator]

install went well but I get a couple of errors

When I boot I get a message:
Mounting local file systems
	Mount: mount point 0 does not exist

And when I shut down I get:
Swapoff: /dev/SWAP
	no such file or directory

Any comments?

Patrick Kelley

RE: [gentoo-dev] install

[Sean Mitchell]

edit your /etc/fstab....

/dev/SWAP should be something like /dev/hda3 and it looks like that's not
the only trouble

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Network Administrator [mailto:netadmin@venusmagnum.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 1:58 PM
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-dev] install


install went well but I get a couple of errors

When I boot I get a message:
Mounting local file systems
	Mount: mount point 0 does not exist

And when I shut down I get:
Swapoff: /dev/SWAP
	no such file or directory

Any comments?

Patrick Kelley

Re: [gentoo-dev] install

[jim]

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On  1 Feb, Network Administrator wrote:
> I don't see vi listed under app-editors

nvi and vim are vi clones/improvements.

jim

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RE: [gentoo-dev] install

[Network Administrator]

I don't see vi listed under app-editors

-----Original Message-----
From: jim@nuttz.org [mailto:jim@nuttz.org]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 10:56 AM
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install


On  1 Feb, Network Administrator wrote:
> install went well but I get a couple of errors
> 
> When I boot I get a message:
> Mounting local file systems
> 	Mount: mount point 0 does not exist
> 
> And when I shut down I get:
> Swapoff: /dev/SWAP
> 	no such file or directory

Blame it on nano. It wraps lines (and it's not obvious it has done so).
You need to go into fstab with a real editor (vi, emacs, etc) and fix
them, the pass/dump values are wrapped to the next line.

jim

RE: [gentoo-dev] install

[Sean Mitchell]

It's actually vim.

/usr/portage/app-editors/vim/vim-6.0-r4.ebuild

-----Original Message-----
From: Network Administrator [mailto:netadmin@venusmagnum.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:10 PM
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] install


I don't see vi listed under app-editors

Re: [gentoo-dev] install

[jim]

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On  1 Feb, Network Administrator wrote:
> so which one doesn't require x

nvi

jim

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RE: [gentoo-dev] install

[Network Administrator]

so which one doesn't require x

-----Original Message-----
From: jim@nuttz.org [mailto:jim@nuttz.org]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:07 AM
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install


On  1 Feb, Network Administrator wrote:
> I don't see vi listed under app-editors

nvi and vim are vi clones/improvements.

jim

RE: [gentoo-dev] install

[Network Administrator]

so, do I need to change anything.  I am using XFS for root so in the example file I just replaced reiserFS with xfs and removed the notail,


On  1 Feb, Network Administrator wrote:
> I don't see vi listed under app-editors

nvi and vim are vi clones/improvements.

jim
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RE: [gentoo-dev] install

[Chris Taylor]

To build just the basic console vim, use the following command:

env USE="" emerge app-editors/vim

(Otherwise, it will build various options into vim based on your USE
statement in your /etc/make.conf file, which probably includes X)

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Network Administrator [mailto:netadmin@venusmagnum.com] 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:15 PM
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] install


so which one doesn't require x

-----Original Message-----
From: jim@nuttz.org [mailto:jim@nuttz.org]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:07 AM
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install


On  1 Feb, Network Administrator wrote:
> I don't see vi listed under app-editors

nvi and vim are vi clones/improvements.

jim
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RE: [gentoo-dev] install

[Sean Mitchell]

I couldn't get XFS to mount properly until I changed it to default.

-----Original Message-----
From: Network Administrator [mailto:netadmin@venusmagnum.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:19 PM
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] install


so, do I need to change anything.  I am using XFS for root so in the example
file I just replaced reiserFS with xfs and removed the notail,

RE: [gentoo-dev] install

[Network Administrator]

and how do I do that

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Mitchell [mailto:SMitchell@phoenix-interactive.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:22 AM
To: 'gentoo-dev@gentoo.org'
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] install


I couldn't get XFS to mount properly until I changed it to default.

-----Original Message-----
From: Network Administrator [mailto:netadmin@venusmagnum.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:19 PM
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] install


so, do I need to change anything.  I am using XFS for root so in the example
file I just replaced reiserFS with xfs and removed the notail,

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RE: [gentoo-dev] install

[Sean Mitchell]

Sorry... should have been more specific/accurate - I meant change
"noatime,notail" to "defaults"

Here is my /etc/fstab :

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# noatime turns of atimes for increased performance (atimes normally aren't
# needed; notail increases performance of ReiserFS (at the expense of
storage
# efficiency).  It's safe to drop the noatime options if you want and to
# switch between notail and tail freely.

# <fs>                  <mountpoint>    <type>          <opts><dump/pass>

# NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
/dev/hda1           /boot           ext2     noauto,noatime    1 1
/dev/hda3           /               xfs      defaults 0 0
/dev/hda2           none            swap     sw     0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0  /mnt/cdrom      iso9660  noauto,ro 0 0
proc                /proc           proc     defaults 0 0



Hope this helps!

Sean

-----Original Message-----
From: Network Administrator [mailto:netadmin@venusmagnum.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:27 PM
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] install


and how do I do that

RE: [gentoo-dev] install

[Network Administrator]

perfect! thank you very much.  I am really enjoying gentoo.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sean Mitchell [mailto:SMitchell@phoenix-interactive.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 11:30 AM
To: 'gentoo-dev@gentoo.org'
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] install


Sorry... should have been more specific/accurate - I meant change
"noatime,notail" to "defaults"

Here is my /etc/fstab :

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# noatime turns of atimes for increased performance (atimes normally aren't
# needed; notail increases performance of ReiserFS (at the expense of
storage
# efficiency).  It's safe to drop the noatime options if you want and to
# switch between notail and tail freely.

# <fs>                  <mountpoint>    <type>          <opts><dump/pass>

# NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to opts.
/dev/hda1           /boot           ext2     noauto,noatime    1 1
/dev/hda3           /               xfs      defaults 0 0
/dev/hda2           none            swap     sw     0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0  /mnt/cdrom      iso9660  noauto,ro 0 0
proc                /proc           proc     defaults 0 0



Hope this helps!

Sean

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From: Network Administrator [mailto:netadmin@venusmagnum.com]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:27 PM
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] install


and how do I do that
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Re: [gentoo-dev] install

[Jared H. Hudson]

I agree with the "read editor" bit, but I should also mention that you can 
pass -w to nano (or pico) and it will NOT wrap lines. (Which I believe the 
install guide mentioned)

So, for example:
# nano -w /etc/fstab

-Jared H.

On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 jim@nuttz.org wrote:

> On  1 Feb, Network Administrator wrote:
> > install went well but I get a couple of errors
> > 
> > When I boot I get a message:
> > Mounting local file systems
> > 	Mount: mount point 0 does not exist
> > 
> > And when I shut down I get:
> > Swapoff: /dev/SWAP
> > 	no such file or directory
> 
> Blame it on nano. It wraps lines (and it's not obvious it has done so).
> You need to go into fstab with a real editor (vi, emacs, etc) and fix
> them, the pass/dump values are wrapped to the next line.
> 
> jim
> 

-- 
Using the internet as it was originally intended...
for the further research of pornography and pipebombs.

RE: [gentoo-dev] install

[Jano Lukac]

It's beacuse notail is not an option for xfs.  I use these two flags
instead of defaults:
noatime,osyncisdsync
Be sure to read the mount (8) man page for a description of what they do for
the xfs fs, before using them yourself.

jano


Sean Mitchell said:
> Sorry... should have been more specific/accurate - I meant change
> "noatime,notail" to "defaults"
>
> Here is my /etc/fstab :
>
> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
> #
> # noatime turns of atimes for increased performance (atimes normally
> aren't # needed; notail increases performance of ReiserFS (at the
> expense of storage
> # efficiency).  It's safe to drop the noatime options if you want and
> to # switch between notail and tail freely.
>
> # <fs>                  <mountpoint>    <type>
> <opts><dump/pass>
>
> # NOTE: If your BOOT partition is ReiserFS, add the notail option to
> opts. /dev/hda1           /boot           ext2     noauto,noatime    1
> 1 /dev/hda3           /               xfs      defaults 0 0
> /dev/hda2           none            swap     sw     0 0
> /dev/cdroms/cdrom0  /mnt/cdrom      iso9660  noauto,ro 0 0
> proc                /proc           proc     defaults 0 0
>
>
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Sean
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Network Administrator [mailto:netadmin@venusmagnum.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:27 PM
> To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> Subject: RE: [gentoo-dev] install
>
>
> and how do I do that
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