[gentoo-dev] Create a list of USE flags with descriptions

[gentoo-dev] Create a list of USE flags with descriptions

[Dan Armak]

Hi all,

I think it's high time we created a list of descriptions for our USE flags. 
Short one-line comments are usually enough. We should put it into make.conf.

If there's no reason not to do it, I'll open a public thread on dev-wiki and 
everyone will post info about the USE flags he created. Or we could just use 
the mailing list.

-- 

Dan Armak
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
Matan, Israel

AW: [gentoo-dev] Create a list of USE flags with descriptions

[Sebastian Werner]

I have created a script that search in all ebuild-files for used USE-flags.
The entries in the default make.conf don't contain all entries which the
developers used!
Sorry, the script is at my home-computer... i will post it to the mailing
list in 8 hours.

I can extend the script to search in a database like textfile:

useflag description
useflag description
useflag...

so that developers just add there the description

Sebastian

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Hi all,

I think it's high time we created a list of descriptions for our USE flags.
Short one-line comments are usually enough. We should put it into make.conf.

If there's no reason not to do it, I'll open a public thread on dev-wiki and
everyone will post info about the USE flags he created. Or we could just use
the mailing list.

--

Dan Armak
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
Matan, Israel

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Re: AW: [gentoo-dev] Create a list of USE flags with descriptions

[Dan Armak]

On Monday 30 July 2001 12:25, you wrote:
> I have created a script that search in all ebuild-files for used USE-flags.
> The entries in the default make.conf don't contain all entries which the
> developers used!
That's an issue too. Any USE flag should be referenced in make.conf.

> Sorry, the script is at my home-computer... i will post it to the mailing
> list in 8 hours.
>
> I can extend the script to search in a database like textfile:
>
> useflag description
> useflag description
> useflag...
>
> so that developers just add there the description
OK, sounds nice. Once the people in the US wake up and join us we should have 
a lively discussion here. This is an issue that keeps being delayed.
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Dan Armak
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
Matan, Israel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Create a list of USE flags with descriptions

[Mikael Hallendal]

Dan Armak <danarmak@gentoo.org> writes:

Hi!

I think this sounds like a great idea. Not sure whether the commented
USE-flags should be in make.conf or make.globals. I like the second
better becuase comments and often harder to edit.

Regards, 
Mikael Hallendal

> Hi all,
> 
> I think it's high time we created a list of descriptions for our USE
> flags.  Short one-line comments are usually enough. We should put it
> into make.conf.
> 
> If there's no reason not to do it, I'll open a public thread on
> dev-wiki and everyone will post info about the USE flags he
> created. Or we could just use the mailing list.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Dan Armak
> Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
> Matan, Israel
> 
> _______________________________________________
> gentoo-dev mailing list
> gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org
> http://cvs.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev

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Re: AW: [gentoo-dev] Create a list of USE flags with descriptions

[Mikael Hallendal]

Dan Armak <danarmak@gentoo.org> writes:

Hi!

> > Sorry, the script is at my home-computer... i will post it to the
> >mailing list in 8 hours.
> >
> > I can extend the script to search in a database like textfile:
> >
> > useflag description useflag description useflag...
> >
> > so that developers just add there the description
>
> OK, sounds nice. Once the people in the US wake up and join us we
> should have a lively discussion here. This is an issue that keeps
> being delayed.

Do we really want developers to just add USE-flags by themselfs? I'd
rather see that if a developer needs a new USE-flag he sends an email
to the list requesting that USE-flag (or perhaps directly to Drobbins
or Achim). This way we'll have a more controlled way of adding
USE-flags and the USE-flag and a description can be added where it
should be.

I do however see a really good use for your script and that is being
able to produce a list of which packages uses which USE-flags. This
can be a nice feature for users unsure of what will happend if they
enable a USE-flag.

Regards,
Mikael Hallendal

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Re: AW: [gentoo-dev] Create a list of USE flags with descriptions

[Dan Armak]

On Monday 30 July 2001 12:42, you wrote:
> Dan Armak <danarmak@gentoo.org> writes:
>
> Hi!
>
> > > Sorry, the script is at my home-computer... i will post it to the
> > >mailing list in 8 hours.
> > >
> > > I can extend the script to search in a database like textfile:
> > >
> > > useflag description useflag description useflag...
> > >
> > > so that developers just add there the description
> >
> > OK, sounds nice. Once the people in the US wake up and join us we
> > should have a lively discussion here. This is an issue that keeps
> > being delayed.
>
> Do we really want developers to just add USE-flags by themselfs? I'd
> rather see that if a developer needs a new USE-flag he sends an email
> to the list requesting that USE-flag (or perhaps directly to Drobbins
> or Achim). This way we'll have a more controlled way of adding
> USE-flags and the USE-flag and a description can be added where it
> should be.
>
> I do however see a really good use for your script and that is being
> able to produce a list of which packages uses which USE-flags. This
> can be a nice feature for users unsure of what will happend if they
> enable a USE-flag.
>

So, how and where are we going to collect the flag descriptions? There aren't 
that many really, everyone could just post the descriptions to this thread 
(preferrably in groups) and I'll bring it together. I think it can simply go 
in make.conf entirely commented out, and below it the USE="" setting proper. 
Should we keep a list of currently disabled flags as well? What about flag 
classification, and setting of flags as on or off by default? Well, for now 
let's stay with the original idea :-)

-- 

Dan Armak
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
Matan, Israel

Re: AW: [gentoo-dev] Create a list of USE flags with descriptions

[Daniel Robbins]

On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 09:14:41PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote:

> So, how and where are we going to collect the flag descriptions? There aren't 
> that many really, everyone could just post the descriptions to this thread 
> (preferrably in groups) and I'll bring it together. I think it can simply go 
> in make.conf entirely commented out, and below it the USE="" setting proper. 
> Should we keep a list of currently disabled flags as well? What about flag 
> classification, and setting of flags as on or off by default? Well, for now 
> let's stay with the original idea :-)

Everyone, please focus on updating the
/usr/portage/app-doc/gentoo-web/files/xml/gentoo-howto.xml document so that the
USE table contains up-to-date information.  This is where all the USE-related
information should be collected and explained.  This is the master file for the
Gentoo Development Howto on the gentoo.org Web site.

Best Regards,

-- 
Daniel Robbins					<drobbins@gentoo.org>
Chief Architect/President			http://www.gentoo.org 
Gentoo Technologies, Inc.			

Re: [gentoo-dev] Create a list of USE flags with descriptions

[tadpol]

On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 12:19:28PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote:
> If there's no reason not to do it, I'll open a public thread on dev-wiki and 
> everyone will post info about the USE flags he created. Or we could just use 
> the mailing list.

There is a dev-wiki thread on this already.
http://cvs.gentoo.org/wiki/single.php?tid=41&PHPSESSID=da81ce0372e3ed9691734e70fb95ec8c

(eewww. icky url.)

Look under my todos (I'm tadpol)
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Michael Tilstra                       tadpol@tadpol.org
use the source, Luke

Re: AW: [gentoo-dev] Create a list of USE flags with descriptions

[Dan Armak]

On Monday 30 July 2001 21:41, you wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 09:14:41PM +0300, Dan Armak wrote:
> > So, how and where are we going to collect the flag descriptions? There
> > aren't that many really, everyone could just post the descriptions to
> > this thread (preferrably in groups) and I'll bring it together. I think
> > it can simply go in make.conf entirely commented out, and below it the
> > USE="" setting proper. Should we keep a list of currently disabled flags
> > as well? What about flag classification, and setting of flags as on or
> > off by default? Well, for now let's stay with the original idea :-)
>
> Everyone, please focus on updating the
> /usr/portage/app-doc/gentoo-web/files/xml/gentoo-howto.xml document so that
> the USE table contains up-to-date information.  This is where all the
> USE-related information should be collected and explained.  This is the
> master file for the Gentoo Development Howto on the gentoo.org Web site.
>

OK, after we finish working on that we'll still have to copy some info to 
make.conf or somewhere that is accessible from e.g. a build disc.
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Dan Armak
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
Matan, Israel

Re: AW: [gentoo-dev] Create a list of USE flags with descriptions

[Dan Armak]

Hi drobbins,

Some time ago we fixed a problem with execute permissions being set on 
certain ebuilds, we needed your cvs root access to fix that. Well, looking at 
the gentoo-web dir, it suffers from the same problem. If you use mc, make a 
panelled list of all files in the dir and its subdirs and you can see a lot 
of gifs, jogs, htmls etc. with execute permissions.



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Dan Armak
Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop Team
Matan, Israel