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From: Mike Pagano <mpagano@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Removing the distinction between UNCONFIRMED and CONFIRMED bugs
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2022 11:09:06 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00d0f13e-d62a-fcd6-f344-cc82cdebda0b@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f4ebb5f7-0f29-9792-fef0-1ce06be2f6be@gentoo.org>



On 12/3/22 08:59, Florian Schmaus wrote:
> On 03/12/2022 14.50, Michał Górny wrote:
>> On Sat, 2022-12-03 at 14:45 +0100, Florian Schmaus wrote:
>>> I think having UNCONFIRMED / CONFIRMED *helps* the issue reporter, and
>>> other (affected) persons, to decide if they need to "chase" the issue's
>>> assigned entity.
>>>
>>> Assume looking at the open bugs list of a developer. If the developer
>>> has old bugs in UNCONFIRMED state, you may want to issue a friendly
>>> ping. Sure, strictly speaking, this would require all bugs to drop back
>>> to UNCONFIMRED when the bug assignee changes. But even without such an
>>> implicit mechanism, those two states provide some value.
>>
>> I don't understand how UNCONFIRMED/CONFIRMED makes any difference here.
>> If I file a bug against some package, it is CONFIRMED by default.
>> If an unprivileged user files it, it's UNCONFIRMED.  In both cases
>> the assignee didn't do anything.
> 
> The assignee not doing anything keeps the bug UNCONFIRMED if it is
> filled by an unprivileged user. That makes the bug distinguishable from
> a bug that got "verified" by the assignee.
> 
> Yes, if *you* (as dev) fill a bug, then it is implicitly CONFIRMED
> (whether or not that is sensible is a different discussion). I do not
> see how this would invalidate my case, though.
> 
> - Flow
> 

The kernel may be a special case, but personally I use unconfirmed and don't 'confirm' it until it's determined if it's a real kernel bug.
Sometimes the kernel is the messenger and not the cause.  But this is not a documented process and only exists in my head.

Whatever the consensus is I can live with.

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-12-03 16:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-03  7:09 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Removing the distinction between UNCONFIRMED and CONFIRMED bugs Michał Górny
2022-12-03  7:58 ` Sam James
2022-12-03  8:39 ` Ulrich Mueller
2022-12-03  9:53   ` Michał Górny
2022-12-03 10:09     ` Toralf Förster
2022-12-03 11:48     ` Ulrich Mueller
2022-12-03 12:14       ` Ulrich Mueller
2022-12-03 10:42 ` Florian Schmaus
2022-12-03 11:34   ` Michał Górny
2022-12-03 12:10     ` Florian Schmaus
2022-12-03 12:20       ` Michał Górny
2022-12-03 13:45         ` Florian Schmaus
2022-12-03 13:50           ` Michał Górny
2022-12-03 13:59             ` Florian Schmaus
2022-12-03 16:09               ` Mike Pagano [this message]
2022-12-03 18:46 ` Jonas Stein
2022-12-03 18:50 ` Mike Gilbert

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