[gentoo-dev] rc4 impressions

[gentoo-dev] rc4 impressions

[Andreas Schweitzer]

Hi,
I was so bold and downloaded 1.0_rc4_pre2.
I know, rc4 is somehow not released ... but it's on the
ibiblio site :-)
Well, I only grabed the sys.tbz2 file and installed it on 2 partitions
according to the Installation manual.

2 bugs so far :
- The included man is linked against a newer version
  of the stdc++ library than is included. I think it's
  glibc2.1 vs. glibc2.2 mismatch.
- there is a mismatch in /etc/profile and /etc/env.d
  /etc/profile wants something in /etc, not /etc.d
  (sorry, I forgot the name of the file ;-).

Other than that it looks cool !
the modprobe actually detects my NE2000 and SB64 PnP cards ! cool !
(and I found /etc/conifg/modules to automate that :-)

What about including rsync and wget in the sys.tbz2 file.
Then, one could start with portage rigth away !

Having some sort of ports tree is just great !

Andreas

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Re: [gentoo-dev] rc4 impressions

[Jerry A!]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:06:58AM -0500, Andreas Schweitzer wrote:
: Hi,
: I was so bold and downloaded 1.0_rc4_pre2.
: I know, rc4 is somehow not released ... but it's on the
: ibiblio site :-)
: Well, I only grabed the sys.tbz2 file and installed it on 2 partitions
: according to the Installation manual.
: 
: 2 bugs so far :
: - The included man is linked against a newer version
:   of the stdc++ library than is included. I think it's
:   glibc2.1 vs. glibc2.2 mismatch.
: - there is a mismatch in /etc/profile and /etc/env.d
:   /etc/profile wants something in /etc, not /etc.d
:   (sorry, I forgot the name of the file ;-).

Hey, now that I think about it, have we fixed the reboot/halt bug that I
mentioned way back when?  You know, the one where "halt" reboots the
system and "reboot" halts the system?

        --Jerry

name:  Jerry Alexandratos         ||  Open-Source software isn't a
phone: 703.599.6023               ||  matter of life or death...
email: jerry@akopia.com           ||  ...It's much more important
                                  ||  than that!

Re: [gentoo-dev] rc4 impressions

[Andreas Schweitzer]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:12:05AM -0500, Jerry A! wrote:
> 
> Hey, now that I think about it, have we fixed the reboot/halt bug that I
> mentioned way back when?  You know, the one where "halt" reboots the
> system and "reboot" halts the system?

I'm pretty sure, this install rebooted on 'reboot'.

Andreas

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Re: [gentoo-dev] rc4 impressions

[Achim Gottinger]

Andreas Schweitzer wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 12:12:05AM -0500, Jerry A! wrote:
> >
> > Hey, now that I think about it, have we fixed the reboot/halt bug that I
> > mentioned way back when?  You know, the one where "halt" reboots the
> > system and "reboot" halts the system?
>
> I'm pretty sure, this install rebooted on 'reboot'.

Sometimes it does, sometimes it halts sometimes it hangs. I think that has
something todo
with init. It uses /dev/initctl which is a symlink to /initrd/dev/initctl
because we need write access to
some devices. I plan to write a script that performs the steps done by halt
or reboot.
We have no unmount script on the bootcd too.

Bye Achim

>
>
> Andreas
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Re: [gentoo-dev] rc4 impressions

[Cymen Vig]

Jerry A!:
<snip>
> Hey, now that I think about it, have we fixed the reboot/halt bug that I
> mentioned way back when?  You know, the one where "halt" reboots the
> system and "reboot" halts the system?

I noticed this problem on the rc3 cd.  "reboot" powered down the system...
Once I booted up gentoo though reboot worked as it should (if I remember
correctly - waiting for rc4 before more playing).

Cymen Vig
cvig@raw-io.com

Re: [gentoo-dev] rc4 impressions

[Achim Gottinger]

Andreas Schweitzer wrote:

> Hi,
> I was so bold and downloaded 1.0_rc4_pre2.
> I know, rc4 is somehow not released ... but it's on the
> ibiblio site :-)
> Well, I only grabed the sys.tbz2 file and installed it on 2 partitions
> according to the Installation manual.
>
> 2 bugs so far :
> - The included man is linked against a newer version
>   of the stdc++ library than is included. I think it's
>   glibc2.1 vs. glibc2.2 mismatch.
> - there is a mismatch in /etc/profile and /etc/env.d
>   /etc/profile wants something in /etc, not /etc.d
>   (sorry, I forgot the name of the file ;-).

Hmm, I think you must run "env-update" first. This is new in rc4 and I
don't think it made it to the doc's
right now.
env-update generates a files called /etc/profile.d from all the files in
/etc/env.d and it autogenerates /etc/ld.so.conf.
man did not work because libstdc++ is in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/........./lib
and that path is added to /etc/ld.so.conf by
env-update.
Hope I'm right. :-)

>
>
> Other than that it looks cool !
> the modprobe actually detects my NE2000 and SB64 PnP cards ! cool !

Yes, this is a cool feature of the 2,4er kernel. Was amazed here too.

>
> (and I found /etc/conifg/modules to automate that :-)
>
> What about including rsync and wget in the sys.tbz2 file.
> Then, one could start with portage rigth away !

Yes we normaly did it that way and these utils will be in the rc4 sys.tbz2

~ Achim

>
>
> Having some sort of ports tree is just great !
>
> Andreas
>
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Re: [gentoo-dev] rc4 impressions

[Andreas Schweitzer]

On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:51:54AM +0100, Achim Gottinger wrote:
> Andreas Schweitzer wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > I was so bold and downloaded 1.0_rc4_pre2.
> > I know, rc4 is somehow not released ... but it's on the
> > ibiblio site :-)
> > Well, I only grabed the sys.tbz2 file and installed it on 2 partitions
> > according to the Installation manual.
> >
> > 2 bugs so far :
> > - The included man is linked against a newer version
> >   of the stdc++ library than is included. I think it's
> >   glibc2.1 vs. glibc2.2 mismatch.
> > - there is a mismatch in /etc/profile and /etc/env.d
> >   /etc/profile wants something in /etc, not /etc.d
> >   (sorry, I forgot the name of the file ;-).
> 
> Hmm, I think you must run "env-update" first. This is new in rc4 and I
> don't think it made it to the doc's
> right now.

Ahhh ... now, /etc/profile.env is there ! :-)

> env-update generates a files called /etc/profile.d from all the files in
> /etc/env.d and it autogenerates /etc/ld.so.conf.
> man did not work because libstdc++ is in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/........./lib
> and that path is added to /etc/ld.so.conf by
> env-update.
> Hope I'm right. :-)

I don't know ... :-) The first thing I did was a ebuild of
glibc.2.2.1 and afterwards 'man' worked.

I *think* I issued ldconf by hand before to make man work,
but could not swear on that.
And /etc/ld.so.conf did not get updated by env-update,
however, the /usr/lib/gcc-lib/.... entry is in it.
/etc/ld.so.cache did get updated, though.

> >
> > What about including rsync and wget in the sys.tbz2 file.
> > Then, one could start with portage rigth away !
> 
> Yes we normaly did it that way and these utils will be in the rc4 sys.tbz2

Great - the next thing I did, was ebiuld OpenSSH (plus dependencies),
and now I'm logged in from my freshly installed Gentoo box to another
machine to write this mail ;-)

Andreas

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Re: [gentoo-dev] rc4 impressions

[Achim Gottinger]

Andreas Schweitzer wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 24, 2001 at 06:51:54AM +0100, Achim Gottinger wrote:
> > Andreas Schweitzer wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I was so bold and downloaded 1.0_rc4_pre2.
> > > I know, rc4 is somehow not released ... but it's on the
> > > ibiblio site :-)
> > > Well, I only grabed the sys.tbz2 file and installed it on 2 partitions
> > > according to the Installation manual.
> > >
> > > 2 bugs so far :
> > > - The included man is linked against a newer version
> > >   of the stdc++ library than is included. I think it's
> > >   glibc2.1 vs. glibc2.2 mismatch.
> > > - there is a mismatch in /etc/profile and /etc/env.d
> > >   /etc/profile wants something in /etc, not /etc.d
> > >   (sorry, I forgot the name of the file ;-).
> >
> > Hmm, I think you must run "env-update" first. This is new in rc4 and I
> > don't think it made it to the doc's
> > right now.
>
> Ahhh ... now, /etc/profile.env is there ! :-)
>
> > env-update generates a files called /etc/profile.d from all the files in
> > /etc/env.d and it autogenerates /etc/ld.so.conf.
> > man did not work because libstdc++ is in /usr/lib/gcc-lib/........./lib
> > and that path is added to /etc/ld.so.conf by
> > env-update.
> > Hope I'm right. :-)
>
> I don't know ... :-) The first thing I did was a ebuild of
> glibc.2.2.1 and afterwards 'man' worked.

Definatly strange, because libstdc++ comes with gcc. I installed three machines
with that sys without having those problems.
But I use a script to make all the neccesary settings to start. I will try to
do it manualy as documented and update
the docs if neccessary.
Thanks for the bug-report.

>
>
> I *think* I issued ldconf by hand before to make man work,
> but could not swear on that.
> And /etc/ld.so.conf did not get updated by env-update,
> however, the /usr/lib/gcc-lib/.... entry is in it.
> /etc/ld.so.cache did get updated, though.
>
> > >
> > > What about including rsync and wget in the sys.tbz2 file.
> > > Then, one could start with portage rigth away !
> >
> > Yes we normaly did it that way and these utils will be in the rc4 sys.tbz2
>
> Great - the next thing I did, was ebiuld OpenSSH (plus dependencies),
> and now I'm logged in from my freshly installed Gentoo box to another
> machine to write this mail ;-)

In rc3 we had the following packages addidtionally to the sys-* stuff.

joe (for those who can't vi),
rsync,cvs,wget,openssh,openssl,strace,w3m,unzip,net-telnet,ftp,lftp.

All these are not required to compile the stuff in sys, so that's why it is not
there. sys only contains
the stuff required for a minimum runtime-system that is able to recompile
itself and to build everything else.




>
>
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>
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