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From: "Riyad Kalla" <rsk@u.arizona.edu>
To: "'M. Zuelsdorff'" <micha@dolbyco.de>, <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:43:48 -0700
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I'm starting to feel more like this, WGT the use flags... when I
installed gentoo on a server here at work, I left the use flags alone,
figuring "hey it's a server" but then I noticed that certain packages
WANTED to install some rediculous amounts of optional requirements, so I
started using "-" use flags, and that seemed to work. Then I noticed
other packages building without supports for things I needed (like
CUPS). Anywya, after compiling and recompiling KDE about 3 times, mysql
twice, qt 3 times and a few utilities I started to think that before
installing a program, I'd rather just see the "configure --help" options
and decide what I wanted and what I didn't... this use flag business is
kinda trickie... I couldn't imagine trying to code to take it all into
account. Has there ever been talk to get rid of use flags and tackle
optional package params in a different way?

Riyad

> -----Original Message-----
> From: M. Zuelsdorff [mailto:micha@dolbyco.de] 
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:33 PM
> To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] mplayer with dvdread
> 
> 
> No, I don't make use of "USE" at all, since it's one of the 
> really annoying 
> parts of the Gentoo distribution. There are thousands of 
> packages in the 
> portage tree but not a single line on which USE-var is 
> related to which 
> package.
> All I was able to find was: "dvd adds support for DvDs". 
> Fine. I'd never 
> thought that DvD support is disabled by default in a tool 
> like Mplayer. And 
> in fact it is NOT, when I get the tool from the mplayer site, 
> directly. So, 
> what is it worth this extra little fuzz? In the end, an 
> experience like this 
> can only lead to a blind "better enable everything" since no 
> one is able to 
> keep track of all bells and whistles each package comes with. 
> And this way 
> making the USE mimik more or less obsolete.
> 
> Best regards.
> 
> micha
> 
> On Wednesday 09 April 2003 23:47, Martin Schlemmer wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-04-10 at 00:48, M. Zuelsdorff wrote:
> > > my experience with emerging Gentoo's Mplayer 0.90rc4 out 
> of the box 
> > > was:
> > >
> > > no DVD in the graphical menu.
> > > And Martin Schlemmer's "gmplayer -dvd 1" here ends with 
> a: "MPlayer 
> > > was compiled WITHOUT libdvdread support!"
> > >
> > > That's why I did another installation manually in /usr/local/... 
> > > feeding configure with the appropriate parameters in 
> advance. This 
> > > version works.
> >
> > Did you have 'dvd' in USE ?  If so, do:
> >
> >  # emerge mplayer &> mplayer-build.log
> >
> > And mail me the log.
> 
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