From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=DMARC_MISSING, MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from green-dns-smtp1.homechoice.co.uk (green-gw4.homechoice.co.uk [212.187.250.5]) by chiba.3jane.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 905C72015DA8 for ; Mon, 4 Feb 2002 12:10:47 -0600 (CST) Received: (qmail 4348 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2002 18:10:17 -0000 Received: from gr-vs1-4-789.homechoice.co.uk (HELO paradigm) (10.24.147.21) by gr-dns1.homechoice.co.uk with SMTP; 4 Feb 2002 18:10:17 -0000 Message-ID: <003701c1ada7$1d72efe0$fd00a8c0@frampton> From: "David Herbert" To: References: <003901c1acba$f3d98d20$fd00a8c0@frampton><20020204005854.GA22957@chiba.3jane.net> <000b01c1ad9a$30931940$fd00a8c0@frampton> <1012843493.20718.24.camel@silica.localmosci> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Ethical Policy Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:09:40 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.6 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux developer list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: X-Archives-Salt: 5eccb8ab-f308-4c4c-aa5f-cdf3665e9c41 X-Archives-Hash: b3cfdb576b3deaa1b635d21b25fa7f90 Thanks for the link but that doesn't cover it. It's not remotely convincing, Red Hat could say exactly the same about their distro, Red Hat's package management system is GPL'ed but they are still very clearly a company, very clearly a .com and it's obvious that their motives are different from Debian's who are very clearly a .org. The problem with gentoo is that it is far from clear where their motives lie. M$'s success was started by some stupid decisions made by IBM, which IBM have regreted and looked for ways of getting back at them ever since. IBM have their own vested interests in Linux which have nothing to do with morality. For IBM supporting the free software community is a means to an their own unpleasent ends. Gentoo 'appears' to have strong connections to IBM, which to me contradicts their .org status. These are some of many reasons why I think that if gentoo want to be a .org they need to explain who they are, hence the need for a social contract. Also if M$ was replaced with another company which behaved in exactly the same way as M$ behave now we would have achieved nothing. Regards, David Herbert. > Hi! > > This question has been addressed previously. See > http://lists.gentoo.org/pipermail/gentoo-dev/2001-May/004613.html > > Note to Everyone: > > site:lists.gentoo.org > > typed in google is a wonderful way to search the mailing lists archive. > > tod -google, google google > > _______________________________________________ > gentoo-dev mailing list > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org > http://lists.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev >