From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on finch.gentoo.org X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_12_24, DMARC_REJECT,INVALID_DATE,MAILING_LIST_MULTI autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 Received: from mail.net-labs.de ([217.5.177.78]) by cvs.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 3.30 #1) id 15MtqF-0002q0-00 for gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 10:06:28 -0600 Received: from imaginevm (guest0.net-labs.local [10.0.0.200]) by mail.net-labs.de (net-labs.de Mail-Server) with SMTP id 03C9216BE for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 16:06:14 +0000 (/etc/localtime) Message-ID: <002001c10fa3$916e5ee0$c800000a@netlabs.local> From: "Holger Brueckner" To: References: <20010718172415.A5016@prosalg.no> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Plans for new website. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org Errors-To: gentoo-dev-admin@cvs.gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Gentoo Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Wed Jul 18 10:07:01 2001 X-Original-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 18:06:13 +0200 X-Archives-Salt: 4854c44a-1bbc-4ecb-943a-7e91434a797a X-Archives-Hash: d4239d9eef80420a18f6477322edf7a3 OK I'm new to zope myself but it really looks like you should have a look at zope + cmf (content management framework, was portal toolkit). i would say that around 60 to 70% of your wanted items have a out of the box solution ... http://www.zope.org http://cmf.zope.org just a thought :) darks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Trygve Kalleberg" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 5:24 PM Subject: [gentoo-dev] Plans for new website. > Hi gentooers. > > > > IRC junkies drobbins, g2boojum, Thread, myself and a few passers-by had a > fruitful discussion on how to restructure/upgrade/extend the gentoo.org web > system in the near future. > > Here are the results of that first conversation. If anybody has anything to > add, criticisms to make, or want to help out on any of parts, please post > back to this list. > > List of points: > > > - Divide gentoo web system into two disjoint parts: > - dynamic, for developers > - static, for end-users > > Rationale: We do not have enough server horsepowers (in terms of bandwidth) > to have a fully-dynamic end-user site, if we get the number of users that we > wish for. > > - Use XML for all documents > > Rationale: XML here is just a fancy name for "structured". I'll not bore > you with why we think structured documents are far superior to unstructured > ones. Start a new thread for this flamewar ;p > > - It would be cool if > - We could just add a file to a directory, and it'd show up on the > site (g2boojum) > - the main page had news, in the spirit of PHPNuke (drobbins) > - had a "last updated" thing on each page (drobbins) > - shrank the top header bar to 1/2 the height (drobbins) > - more effectively used the left link area (drobbins) > - had a "printable version" of each page (drobbins) > - had a package database online (drobbins) > - had a section for bios of the dev team (drobbins) > - had bug-reporting features in the package database (karltk) > - had an online-shoppe of olde and fresh gentoo cds (drobbins) > - the dev-wiki was extended to support team-work (drobbins) > - had team pages, which contains: (drobbins) > - name of the team > - list of team members > - title of each member > - team email > - team mailing list > - up-to-date list of all packages managed by the team > - contents of stable team release > - contents of unstable team release > - outstanding problems with stable release > - outstanding problems with unstable release > - team leader > - team-wiki > - merge team wikis with main wiki, using a team-field in all posts > (g2boojum) > - mirroring dynamic stuff is troublesome (karltk) > - search facility on the main site (karltk) > - icon/color for each time in the mega-wiki (Thread, karltk) > - parsing comments in each ebuild to add it to a team's > responsibility list (drobbins, karltk) > - we could add new teams and in the future, sub teams. (drobbins) > > Note: This is the list of "neat stuff we want". Please add new things > here. If any of the points on this list isn't understandable, please make > notify the list and I'll clarify as best as I can. > > Rationale: We intend for this list to "float around" for a week or two, so > that everybody get their chance to contribute and come with input. Then the > web team will traverse the list in prioritised order and implement the > features (more or less ;p). > > If the majority if the developers think the dichotomy of the web site is > acceptable, we should perhaps split this discussion off into two threads. > > Especially important to uncover in the developers section would be how we > envision teams to operate. Which support facilities do they need from the web > system ? Bug database, package lists, task lists, etc, etc.. > > The end-user section will probably stay fairly rudimentary for a bit longer, > as we simply don't have too much content here. As we manage to collect more > HOWTOs, we should look into how to structure this. > > In the meantime, should we forward wayward users to linuxdoc.org in some way ? > > > Kind regards, > > Karl T > > _______________________________________________ > gentoo-dev mailing list > gentoo-dev@cvs.gentoo.org > http://cvs.gentoo.org/mailman/listinfo/gentoo-dev >