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From: "matt c" <matt@legalizefreedom.org>
To: "Chris Gianelloni" <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>,
	"Svyatogor" <svyatogor@gentoo.org>
Cc: <gentoo-dev@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:27:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <001d01c36737$e34b9730$1401a8c0@punx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1061394716.414.42.camel@vertigo

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Gianelloni" <wolf31o2@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat


>vim is only available outside of chroot.  It is not in the stages, and
>isn't available while in chroot.  Personally, I HATE nano, but I think
>if we're going to have an editor on the CD by default, we should pick
>one and stick with it rather than trying to meet the needs of every
>user's desire.  After all, what's next?  "I hate nano and vim, someone
>put emacs on the Live CD."
>
>I honestly think we need to differentiate the "install" CD from the
>"Live" CD.  The installation CD should be as minimal as possible and
>able to fit on other media easily (such as USB pen drives).

This is a good point. Here is a "my personal experience" story, ending with
. When I first installed linux many moons ago (don't remember the distro) vi
was the only editor available on this distro. I never bothered to learn vi.
I installed gentoo over a year ago - nano was a very self-explanatory text
editor, and it "got the job done". I've learned basic vi editing in the
meantime, but nano is great for new users. When I needed to edit a file, I
ended up botching the file more often than not with vi (as I didn't know the
commands or movements.) IMO, Nano is much simpler and intuitive *for non-vi
folk* - and the editor in use should be the same both inside and outside of
the stage chroot (it just Makes Sense).

Matt




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  reply	other threads:[~2003-08-20 16:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-08-18 19:42 [gentoo-dev] install CD bloat Kurt Lieber
2003-08-18 21:17 ` Dhruba Bandopadhyay
2003-08-18 23:03 ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-19  0:06   ` Bob Johnson
2003-08-19  1:33     ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-19  6:47       ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-08-19  6:54         ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-19  6:59           ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-08-19  7:10             ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21  5:00           ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-08-21  6:16             ` C. Brewer
2003-08-20  1:10         ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-20  7:31           ` Sven Vermeulen
2003-08-20 13:09             ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-20 12:39           ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-20 13:18             ` Michael Cummings
2003-08-20 13:18               ` Douglas Russell
2003-08-20 14:05             ` Tobias Sager
2003-08-20 15:27               ` Aron Griffis
2003-08-20 15:56                 ` Svyatogor
2003-08-20 15:51                   ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-20 16:27                     ` matt c [this message]
2003-08-20 17:09                       ` Douglas Russell
2003-08-20 18:36                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-20 22:51                           ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-20 16:31                     ` Eric Olinger
2003-08-20 17:05                       ` Matt Rickard
2003-08-21  5:13                       ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-08-21  5:42                         ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21  5:59                           ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-08-21  6:08                             ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21  6:25                               ` Stewart Honsberger
2003-08-21  6:51                                 ` Ralph F. De Witt
     [not found]                               ` <3F4464DC.1010904@snerk.org>
2003-08-21  6:30                                 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21 16:58                                   ` [gentoo-dev] OT: Re: Nano. WAS: " Stroller
2003-08-21 17:41                                     ` Mike Frysinger
2003-08-21  9:34                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-21  9:54                               ` Douglas Russell
2003-08-21 17:55                                 ` Jon Portnoy
2003-08-21  9:52                           ` Toby Dickenson
2003-08-20 18:43                     ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-20 22:42                   ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-20 23:34                     ` Tavis Ormandy
2003-08-21  1:16                       ` Chris Gianelloni
2003-08-21  2:06                         ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-21 10:29                         ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-23 14:43                       ` Stuart Herbert
2003-08-20 15:22             ` Aron Griffis
2003-08-20 12:43           ` Kurt Lieber
2003-08-20 14:09             ` Luke-Jr
2003-08-20 18:40               ` Paul de Vrieze
2003-08-20 20:01             ` Daniel Armyr
2003-08-20 23:05               ` William Kenworthy
2003-08-19 11:21   ` Chris Gianelloni

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