RE: [gentoo-dev] Graphical Installer

RE: [gentoo-dev] Graphical Installer

[Riyad Kalla]

Oh sweet! Is this going to be in 1.4 x86 for sure? I like the idea of
autoinstall (or unattended.txt as well all know :), and the abstraction
of architecture-dep into the one class.

Do you have any screenshots of it handy? Does it follow the install
manual's steps pretty closely? What kind of control do we have at
different stages? (i.e. making partitions)

I'm excited...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicholas Henke [mailto:roughneck@gentoo.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 8:01 AM
> To: Riyad Kalla
> Cc: hannes@gentoo.org; gentoo-dev@gentoo.org; gentoo-core@gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphical Installer
> 
> 
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 06:41:57 -0700
> "Riyad Kalla" <rsk@u.arizona.edu> wrote:
> 
> > Haha that's a fantastic name. Whoever continues/works on 
> the ncurses 
> > installer, please keep the name!
> 
> Hehe -- yeah that was a bit of inspired work. Larry rules!! :)
> 
> Now onto the more serious stuff -- cursingcow is 95% ready 
> for use in the 1.4 release on PPC. I have not had much time 
> lately to work on it, but I am taking a week's vacation and 
> starting Dec 2, I will be poolishing it off. For x86, the 
> only thing I have left to do is grub configuration, the rest is done. 
> 
> I suppose I should really let you (core-gentoo) in on the 
> design of cursingcow.... Well, it is all python, and is 
> ncurses and gtk based. The gtk interface is more a token 
> example right now -- it really doesnt look good nor function 
> yet. It uses a statemachine architecture with a 'cargo' of 
> data passed between states. Each state is designed to be a 
> separate step, so adding new steps, or replacing old ones is 
> quite easy.
> 
> There is also an autoinstallation mode -- take a look at 
> autoinstall.txt. You do need to provide a few extra files, 
> like a make.conf, kernel.config, but the installer will build 
> you a system with no user interaction. The autoinstall.txt 
> can also be used in interactive mode to preload data. This 
> allows you to walk through the installer, but not having to 
> input the data each time. 
> 
> For those of you working on 
> sparc/alpha/strongarm/fiddlydodump/ the design of cursingcow 
> is to abstract all of the arch dependent code into one class, 
> which needs to be coded for your arch ( see arch.py ).
> 
> I would really like to hear any and all comments on this!
> Nic
> -- 
> Nicholas Henke
> Linux Cluster Systems Programmer
> Liniac Project - Univ. of Pennsylvania
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[gentoo-dev] Graphical Installer

[Jeff Jeter]

I have not heard about any plans for a graphical instller or portage forntend.
I am interested in developing an ncurses based installer/portage frontend.  I just wanted to make sure there was not already a project in place before i got too involved in mine.

I know this isn't a support list, but does anyone know of a good source for ncurces support.  I've read a couple howtos and i think i'm doing everything right, however I'm screwing something up.

Also, where can I find good guidelines for programming/commenting style?  Should i just read gentoo code or is there some specific, auhoritative guide?

One last question, I'm finding classes to be impractical for my installer since the process is fairly linear and no true objects seem to exist.  Is this a bad move, or is a well-organized function based approach acceptable?

Thanks,
Jeff Jeter

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphical Installer

[Michael]

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 21:26:14 -0500
Jeff Jeter <gsfgf@softhome.net> wrote:

> Also, where can I find good guidelines for programming/commenting style?  Should i just read gentoo code or is there some specific, auhoritative guide

/usr/src/linux/Documentation/CodingStyle Might give some "general insights" =)

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphical Installer

[Chad Huneycutt]

On Wed, 2002-11-20 at 21:26, Jeff Jeter wrote:
> I have not heard about any plans for a graphical instller or portage >
forntend.
> I am interested in developing an ncurses based installer/portage 
> frontend.  I just wanted to make sure there was not already a
> project in place before i got too involved in mine.

I believe that such a project already exists, but I can't find the
reference now.

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Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphical Installer

[George Shapovalov]

On Wednesday 20 November 2002 19:14, Chad Huneycutt wrote:
> > I am interested in developing an ncurses based installer/portage
> > frontend.  I just wanted to make sure there was not already a
> > project in place before i got too involved in mine.
>
> I believe that such a project already exists, but I can't find the
> reference now.
Message by "Victor R. Prada" <vprada@gentoo.org> of 7-28 in this list. In case 
you will have difficulty finding it I am attaching it at the end.
However I should note that I did not see this topic come up lately too much. I 
hope that reference will help you. 
Also, the one mentioned is really a graphical interface, based on anaconda, 
and IMHO having another ncurses based one might be nice too.

George


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[gentoo-dev] GUI Installer based in Anaconda

From: "Victor R. Prada" <vprada@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 00:39:05 -0400

Hello everybody

About a week a go i'd upload an iso image of an Gentoo Linux GUI 
Installer. Anyone who wants to test it can download it from
http://gentoo.latinux.org/latinux_gentoo_installer/Gentoo_latinux_internet-01.img

The installer will install what i call a "Gentoo Base System" that have 
everything needed to begin to work with Gentoo. If you want you can even 
remerge the system optimized to your machine.

Thanks
VМctor Prada

P.D. About 300 people has already download the image (or at least try to 
do it), people with nvidia cards will need to begin the instaltion 
without frame buffer mode typing "nofb" at the inital boot prompt

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Lider TИcnico Latinux-Gentoo
Corvus LatinoamИrica c.a.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphical Installer

[Hannes Mehnert]

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Hi,

you may take a look at 
http://cvs.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gentoo-src/cursingcow/

On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:26:14PM -0500, Jeff Jeter wrote:
> I have not heard about any plans for a graphical instller or portage forntend.
> I am interested in developing an ncurses based installer/portage frontend.  I just wanted to make sure there was not already a project in place before i got too involved in mine.

Hannes Mehnert

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RE: [gentoo-dev] Graphical Installer

[Riyad Kalla]

Haha that's a fantastic name. Whoever continues/works on the ncurses
installer, please keep the name!

-Riyad

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hannes Mehnert [mailto:hannes@gentoo.org] 
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 5:03 AM
> To: Jeff Jeter
> Cc: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Graphical Installer
> 
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> Hi,
> 
> you may take a look at 
> http://cvs.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/gentoo-src/cursingcow/
> 
> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:26:14PM -0500, Jeff Jeter wrote:
> > I have not heard about any plans for a graphical instller 
> or portage 
> > forntend. I am interested in developing an ncurses based 
> > installer/portage frontend.  I just wanted to make sure 
> there was not 
> > already a project in place before i got too involved in mine.
> 
> Hannes Mehnert
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[gentoo-dev] Re: graphical installer

[Gaarde]

Somewhere in the thread that speaks of a graphical installer mentioned
device-detection.

We can use this work elsewhere.  Create 'sane defaults' for the kernel
.config ... selecting which nic, framebuffer, DRI, apic, mtrr, etc ...
ANYTHING that can be detected.  As a part of the installer, have a 'wizard'
that walks one through the kernel configure/compile itself maybe?

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Re: [gentoo-dev] graphical installer

[Bart Verwilst]

On Sunday 21 July 2002 20:08, Gaarde wrote:
|| Somewhere in the thread that speaks of a graphical installer mentioned
|| device-detection.
||
|| We can use this work elsewhere.  Create 'sane defaults' for the kernel
|| .config ... selecting which nic, framebuffer, DRI, apic, mtrr, etc ...
|| ANYTHING that can be detected.  As a part of the installer, have a
|| 'wizard' that walks one through the kernel configure/compile itself maybe?

Nope, we're using redhat's anaconda as base, that has autodetection and such, 
and it's in python (i think).

But that's more davoid's work now, since i'm planning the GUI now.
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Gent, Belgium