From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 19283 invoked by uid 1002); 20 May 2003 02:43:45 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-dev-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 7437 invoked from network); 20 May 2003 02:43:45 -0000 Message-ID: <000a01c31e79$9d6c4360$0101a8c0@cascade> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Amiel Martin" Cc: References: Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 21:43:37 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] MySQL 4 still marked unstable? X-Archives-Salt: 490d86b0-be34-4ff6-8272-fb9d4d7f789f X-Archives-Hash: a51a694d3d4a6bb1f8cb5dc820998fbf It has been stable and secure for me. However, security is in the administration, not in the OS (although the Gentoo folks have done well keeping up with security alerts where source is at fault). As far as protecting ebuilds goes, I was actually referring to the ability to mix keywords (i.e. x86 and ~x86) and still upgrade world in an easy manner. I think there should be two source or ebuild systems, one for the base system and one for the "ports". In this manner one can keep the software up to date and yet keep the system stable. I am thinking along the lines of the freebsd ports system, but with ebuilds instead. Tom Veldhouse ----- Original Message ----- From: "Amiel Martin" To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] MySQL 4 still marked unstable? > I know what you mean, I also think there should be a way to protect > ebuilds that you have changed (ie taking off the ~, or adding options > to the configure line) during an emerge sync > > also, Im just curious, how has gentoo been for you as a server. I have > been using gentoo for desktop machines, but all my servers are still > either redhat or FreeBSD. has it been stable? secure? > > Just wondrin, > > -AMiel > > > On Mon, 19 May 2003, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > I would really like to see a separation of system packages from optional > packages. The ~arch flags should only apply to system packages. There > should be an option to easily install the latest reasonable non-system > packages. Currently, trying to mix stable with ~ causes emerge -u world to > become a nightmare if you have many ~ packages installed. Manually updating > the world file is a pain and unwieldy if you lucky enough to be maintaining > many servers. > > Tom Veldhouse > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Amiel Martin" > To: "Matthew Walker" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 12:50 AM > Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] MySQL 4 still marked unstable? > > > > great > > > > On Sun, 18 May 2003, Matthew Walker wrote: > > > > As I said in my original message, I have been using it on some Gentoo > > servers. Just not the main production server at work. It works flawlessly. > > > > Priit Laes said: > > > On Sun, 18 May 2003 00:34:48 -0700 (PDT) > > > Amiel Martin wrote: > > > > > >> I think what you should do is install MySQL 4 to help gentoo with > > >> testing. ok maybe not at work... but If you have a test box > > >> around... Im sure some help testing it would help unmask it sooner. > > >> > > >> > > >> -AMiel > > > I have been using it for a while.. works fine.. > > > mysql-4.0.12.ebuild -static +readline +innodb +berkdb +tcpd +ssl > > > > > > -march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer -fforce-addr > > > -falign-functions=4 -fprefetch-loop-arrays > > > > > > -- > > > Priit Laes _o) > > > http://amd-core.tk /\\ _o) _o) > > > You are magnetic in your bearing. _\_V _( ) _( ) > > > > > > -- > > > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > -- > > gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list > > > > > > -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list