From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MCH6N-0002pY-KV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 17:51:45 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71632E0395; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:51:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.144]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7E8EE03D3; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 17:34:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 5so550484qwf.10 for ; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:34:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :user-agent; bh=lgu0bETTHnN8NQtQqlE+PUCv/pMeoI37u/HDddRoIMs=; b=DYz626o5ZEkKHLt/ctIHda0JzZrx9JXZ9qM01zhZ5tMgBYLy64R6w4k9D84LFkABhg bsrau2bfDt3lVUXWsFfS5a0f/3TSAZbCgL4cKrBAeryaT/MmSXRhU/dJHwWAAxylF/iH ZgeooHiUMlmiN+YjvxpGJNKDUMbzaxcEZ51bY= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:user-agent; b=ibpPM8081uxrqKQWahPOjyWTnZEsS5VWdidzIsbCDZTzZVVZKfzlhc6gYJtHgSoMp7 rQwrnBsiu3m2lTHZY3gl14qeKPJ8vYYUMCLGy+U5T8UA0BZofMd7N/vLdzKCcHAYXyL8 Z5/wEiSKjfbpe2+0DW1AWRqHcwBbZEsSdGTX4= Received: by 10.224.54.5 with SMTP id o5mr2576546qag.381.1244136882653; Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.gmail.com ([68.46.138.24]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm114453qwf.19.2009.06.04.10.34.40 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Sender: Thomas Anderson Received: by smtp.gmail.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) gentoofan23@gentoo.org; Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:34:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 4 Jun 2009 13:34:40 -0400 From: Thomas Anderson To: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-dev-announce@lists.gentoo.org, gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for meeting on May 28, 2009 Message-ID: <20090604173440.GA18556@dodo.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo development announcement list X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev-announce@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Archives-Salt: fe3de961-44fa-4525-9264-8d4eca3640c3 X-Archives-Hash: 1411f5119898f29c13d853fe0aaf1d07 --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2" Content-Disposition: inline --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here is the summary from Thursday's council meeting. The full log along with the summary will appear shortly at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council Regards, Thomas --=20 --------- Thomas Anderson Gentoo Developer ///////// Areas of responsibility: AMD64, Secretary to the Gentoo Council --------- --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="councilsummary-20090528.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roll Call: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Betelgeuse: here Cardoe: here dertobi123: here=20 dev-zero: here leio: here lu_zero: here tanderson(secretary): here ulm: here Topics: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D - Filling the empty council seat. Donnie Berkholz resigned from the council so there is an empty spot that needs to be filled. ssuominen and ulm were tied for the next spot, but ssuominen relinquished his seat to ulm. To fill the spot, ulm needed to be unanimusly voted in by the current members. Conclusion: Unanimously voted to fill the seat. Ulrich M=C3=BCller will fil= l Donnie Berkholz's seat for the rest of the current term. - EAPI 3 status report from Zac Medico. No progress yet. Zac said he'd have a recent recruit of his work wi= th him on it. Conclusion: Zac will work on EAPI 3 features with the help of his recruit. = He will also blog about what features need to be done so the gener= al community can pitch in. - Removal of Old Eclasses. Jorge(jmbsvicetto) requested that the council discuss removing eclasses from the tree that are no longer needed. The problem with this is that old(<2.1.4) portage versions used the eclasses from the tree to run uninstall phases. Thus, the removal of eclasses would break users who have a portage older than 2.1.4. Conclusion: The council voted that to remove eclasses devs should take the following steps: 1) Deprecate eclasses. 2) Removal of all functionality relating to installing. 3) After two years the eclass may be removed. Thomas Anderson(tanderson) will write up patches for devmanual = so that this policy is documented. - Handling EAPI Versioning in a forwards-compatible way. Various developers have raised concerns that GLEP 55 only describes= a solution and doesn't clearly show the problems being solved(if any). Luca(lu_zero) mentioned a few things in the "Problem" section that = he thought could be clarified, listed below: 1) For "Change the behaviour of inherit in any way", it would be useful to include references to bugs where requested inherit changes would require GLEP 55. 2) For "Add new global scope functions in any way", defining 'Sane'. 3) For "Extend versioning rules in an EAPI", removal of all mentions of GLEP 54 would remove circularity. In addition, mentioning other version format changes would be useful. 4) For "Use newer bash features", listing useful(including in-tree) bash features not available in the bash version mandat= ed by PMS would be useful. Conclusion: The council voted on whether they recognized the problem that G= LEP 55 is attempting to solve is real. The vote was affirmative in recognition of the problem with two abstentions(leio and ulm). ' Cardoe was no longer at the meeting for this vote and will post= =20 his voteon-list. --UlVJffcvxoiEqYs2-- --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkooBbAACgkQF6yMcaBxwHl3lwCggkpcG8aoQy95wb0G9mvPE4oi AgsAoIz6kNAZalELT1Gklk8If6hRwyqg =wW6o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KFztAG8eRSV9hGtP--