From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MhiKU-0000SF-KI for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 11:12:14 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 57531E0720; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D6EE0720 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B7564E01 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:21:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.546 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.546 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.053, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XB1AAF8DpX9Z for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:21:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C56F65C5E for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:21:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1Mhn9I-0007lc-Fs for gentoo-desktop@gentoo.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:21:00 +0200 Received: from ip68-231-21-207.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.21.207]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:21:00 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-21-207.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 18:21:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-desktop@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-desktop] Re: Just curious.... Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1251647963.23743.7.camel@printserver> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-desktop@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-desktop@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-21-207.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 0ed0f3c7-9355-41fd-a310-76dc84fb63be X-Archives-Hash: 49cb71e8e833a32e265e4453de2ec78f David Juhl posted on Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:59:23 -0500 as excerpted: > Is there a simpler way to find out the use flags for a complete desktop > environment? I have gnome working. But what I can't answer is what I > don't have working. I wouldn't know where to begin to look. Maybe I a= m > missing something due to my ignorance... Maybe it doesn't matter > because what I have works... Maybe it does because I can do something > in the gui as opposed to the cli... >=20 > If someone could give me some thoughts on the matter it'd be greatly > appreciated. Well, it all depends on what your definition of "complete" is. =3D:^) Generally speaking, if you're using a desktop profile, all the most sane=20 USE flags you need are set there by default. Where individual packages=20 differ from the norm, there's per-package USE flag defaults now, and the=20 Gentoo package again decides what's the most sane setting for most users,= =20 and sets the defaults accordingly. Of course, the defaults don't apply=20 if you've set the USE flag yourself, overruling them. either globally, or= =20 in package.use for individual packages. But the defaults should be sane=20 for someone who doesn't want to be bothered by too much detail. If your definition of "complete" is "every feature possible", or if=20 you're a detail person, or a control freak when it comes to what's=20 running on your computer (as I most certainly am), the defaults aren't=20 going to satisfy you. Of course, the "every feature possible" bit is=20 generally fairly easy, just check your emerge --verbose --pretend output,= =20 and enable nearly everything (except for the few no-feature type flags)=20 you see in make.conf. If you're a control freak or detail person, euse, from the gentoolkit=20 package, is very helpful. Again, check the output of emerge --pretend --verbose, and for new packages or whenever a flag change comes up, check= =20 it. If you don't know what that USE flag does, a quick euse -i =20 gives you the descriptions, both global and per-package, if they exist,=20 along with whether the flag is enabled and where it's set (profile=20 default, make.conf, etc). Of course, the /really/ detail oriented control freaks won't be satisfied= =20 with that either, as the USE flag descriptions tend to be rather vague,=20 particularly in regard to how individual packages use them. These types=20 of people will be grepping the ebuild itself for this information, seeing= =20 whether it simply turns on dependencies for other packages, or does=20 something else. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman