* [gentoo-desktop] Kde 3 Future/Status
@ 2009-08-10 15:16 99% Tomáš Chvátal
0 siblings, 0 replies; 1+ results
From: Tomáš Chvátal @ 2009-08-10 15:16 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-dev-anounce, gentoo-desktop
[-- Attachment #1: Type: Text/Plain, Size: 2872 bytes --]
Hello guys,
With this e-mail I hope to convince a few of you to step up and help us
maintain kde3 packages. But first things first, current state:
kde-base/*:3.5 packages
The kde-base/ packages are fixed, living happy side by side with KDE4, no
issues should be present now - with the following exceptions.
PROBLEMS:
The KDE project (upstream) mostly stopped working on KDE-3.5 around 2 years
ago and has since dropped any support for that branch of KDE. As such, no one
is auditing the code or fixing bugs caused by updates of deps and Gentoo is
unable to track security patches and to fix issues related to updates in deps
such as gcc or glibc. Also, almost all kde3 packages will fail with new
autotools (autoconf-2.64) (so far masked), and they will require quite a few
patches to fix KDE autotools stuff (admin/ files).
*/*:3.5 packages based on kde3 eclasses
These are KDE3 packages migrated to the new slot and cleaned (should be arts
free too). In these everything is nice, shiny and prepared, they live nicely
side by side with KDE4. Any recent version bumps, if it were the case,
happened quite simply to polish a package.
PROBLEM: these packages represent a minority in the tree.
*/*:* packages based/needing kde3 eclasses
These are packages that are not yet fixed/tested and with high probability
will fail with kde4 around.
PROBLEMS:
There is an horrible mess in kde3 apps slotting (when cleaning :4 and :3.5 are
used).
They might want arts, if mandatory then it will be killed if optionaly then
option should be disabled.
They might detect their directory variables during configure phase incorrectly
and pick kde4.
They usualy need EAPI2 and have not been converted to it yet.
There is a large number of such packages (the changes themselves are simple,
and require little testing, but there are tons of such crap around).
The major problem of all of the above is that there's no one in the KDE team
really using kde3 or its packages.
So what were after is finding some people still interested in KDE3 and KDE3
packages that are willing to step up and contact me/jmbsvicetto about joining
kde team. If you are a dev then it is simple, we have nice policy so anyone
can join. If you are staffer, than we will help you to get your end-quiz done
and rocking ;] and last but not least if you are power user we are willing to
help you to became gentoo-dev.
Please act now because the longer it takes the worse it'll be. We're getting
very close to the point it becomes a global nightmare and where the easiest
approach will be to punt KDE-3.5 out.
Cheers
--------
Tomáš Chvátal
Gentoo Linux Developer [KDE/Overlays/Sunrise/X11]
E-Mail : scarabeus@gentoo.org
GnuPG FP : 94A4 5CCD 85D3 DE24 FE99 F924 1C1E 9CDE 0341 4587
GnuPG ID : 1024D/03414587
[-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part. --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 198 bytes --]
^ permalink raw reply [relevance 99%]
Results 1-1 of 1 | reverse | options above
-- pct% links below jump to the message on this page, permalinks otherwise --
2009-08-10 15:16 99% [gentoo-desktop] Kde 3 Future/Status Tomáš Chvátal
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox