From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEBD713827E for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 10:14:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E94FE0A9A; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 10:14:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-pri-03.vtxnet.net (smtp-pri-03.vtxnet.net [212.147.62.137]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 222ADE0A85 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 10:14:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-pri-03.vtxnet.net (VTX Services SA) with ESMTP id 27CF268B941 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 10:14:02 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at vtx.ch Received: from smtp-pri-03.vtxnet.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-pri-03.vtxnet.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MoCXg-Rl6dil for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 11:14:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from tux.fritz.box (dyn.83-228-173-150.dsl.vtx.ch [83.228.173.150]) by smtp-pri-03.vtxnet.net (VTX Services SA) with ESMTP id F018968B92F for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2013 11:13:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2013 11:33:30 +0100 From: Dominique Michel To: gentoo-desktop@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop] kde-sunset Message-ID: <20131214113330.7343201e@tux.fritz.box> In-Reply-To: <20131214011625.49a36fe0@hal9000.localdomain> References: <20131205174740.6912dccc@hal9000.localdomain> <3090392.LGZxdfjT89@tux200s> <20131214011625.49a36fe0@hal9000.localdomain> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2-dirty (GTK+ 2.24.22; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAJFBMVEXy8ubtkoXo7+b1+fbN cGKCeWDtamweFA8eMkmKPkPtvcWRoqyV0Pn7AAACbElEQVQ4jXXTMWvbQBQA4MOlizsdXEXp KAi09mKcLZ0EJxONDRJVkikg9AtqTm63gtHDmVJs1GsnC0JiaTMJGN2f67uzznJb+gZj9PFO 7717IqdtvCAmem4bxMLp/2BEyEBF1+U/0H8uhI6rv+BVLNrY/gH9T0L8yAxk2yMY3YuZxDCn TY/gpBByyTGktIcZOIvFjPNJmqYJDwrx3cIoBrE0zzG4FF8tfBAwM+DonKCYWjgROZ6Upjcm 5Qje58JAmlKKGfIAjzaDUuogZBY2Bjg14eDbywMIqZvwqgqFBcVFB0seYONLb00ZZlh4p0F6 FHNoUMyKAzxowJSQTyj+XloYs3MN3GeMpzyYSTMshLM00ODpWlPp4SDbqs4cViDcGAgmlK/a PsaOg7DvIQ3wzANMqB/iQW/XTkoTLO6XhSeHUoQKe+NLjyY/Ldx7CW2D4WTYhZ3V0GP64RpP Q/E66IUWMLj3+nDn4w2ejMACyXFeHZy6ETcZehc49bv1GQ/0bazNuzm97mDkhnoie9i30WYM w/YCnYT7Fx308s98n0IT//Jod1+aOzdzYXLVbftol+PC+REG3u+0AxdEtuSMB6G+DLGwMH4E vXGmJn8VCLM9LhmrOAMQYt5Wi/DFgIC52iFkUzMpDVmjAaDZRGC+JGwDqzJ/G5fUUcWZAaE7 YfvPLYtIU1Wb4A2IeS7uDMgcIFutiCr766qGfKHyuxvTIERKXVNSN27lDgCuBuojlpxIyJV6 ritS1uWWuHF2Ww7qcIKbqEFVNbmtmm3vGSCHbVXjikrY3SpVxwQWw2aIjwG+ueXTJDmHeK6a HfwGyU5ZSlGeSRQAAAAASUVORK5CYII= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-desktop@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-desktop@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 0a97757d-b1b0-4b74-a9d6-d10b20a4d54c X-Archives-Hash: 2bc31340309c3be8e6347ebebc0410c8 Le Sat, 14 Dec 2013 01:16:25 +0100, a =E9crit : > Am Donnerstag, 05.12.2013 um 18:09 > schrieb Andreas Sturmlechner : >=20 > > ---Original Message--- > > From: wabenbau@gmail.com > > > Hi folks, > > >=20 > > > I was a KDE user for many years (starting with KDE version 0.4) > > > but since KDE4 ousted KDE3 I'm using XFCE.=20 Fvwm-crystal here from many years ago. Its application menu have full support for the additional free desktop categories out of the box, which make it the most maintenance free apps menu of all desktops. Recent versions include a native support with nice 2 pictures icons for the xdg-user-directories with any file manager you can think about, inclusive console stuffs like mc (2 simultaneously with left and middle click, + contextual menu on right click). It is funny, fast, stable and don't bloat your system. Its memory usage depend mostly on the modules in use into a recipe (theme), more modules imply more memory, but the speed remain the same, only the start time is different from one recipe to another. > > [CUT]=20 > > > Before I try to do this, I have some questions. > > >=20 > > > 1. How secure is it to use KDE 3.5 from the kde-sunset overlay? > > > Are there maybe security leaks that are fixed in KDE4 but not in > > > KDE 3.5? Fvwm-crystal provide only a desktop and don't bloat in any way with the system. It will be as secure than your system , your preferred file managers, browsers, and other softwares are, not more, but not less. A new version is in preparation for the end of the year or something like that. It will add a new function (random loop wallpaper) and contain a major and a few minor bug fixes. Dominique