From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-desktop+bounces-1842-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1Q1Lqn-00070O-86 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:51:33 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8016E1C02A; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from shakti.fmp.com (shakti.fmp.com [208.81.244.105]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3D91C02A for <gentoo-desktop@lists.gentoo.org>; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 16:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.159] ([::ffff:10.8.0.4]) (AUTH: PLAIN fmouse@fmp.com) by shakti.fmp.com with esmtp; Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:50:12 -0500 id 000000000026B34F.000000004D863044.000024D6 Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop] Re: System problems From: Lindsay Haisley <fmouse-gentoo@fmp.com> To: gentoo-desktop@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <pan.2011.03.20.09.32.22@cox.net> References: <1300596366.8325.30.camel@vishnu.fmp.com> <pan.2011.03.20.09.32.22@cox.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Organization: FMP Computer Serevices Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:50:11 -0500 Message-ID: <1300639811.1698.90.camel@ubuntu> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-desktop@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-desktop+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-desktop+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-desktop+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-desktop.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-desktop@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-desktop@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.30.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: b3e57305e2c63f93b372a04075a2d2f3 On Sun, 2011-03-20 at 09:32 +0000, Duncan wrote: > Gentoo, OTOH, is a /rolling/ /update/ distribution. They actually find it > necessary to warn people not to (routinely) sync more than once a day, and > updating daily to perhaps at the outside monthly, really is how it works > best. I believe you've seen this "sermon" before so I'll keep it short, > but honestly, I'm not just saying this, if you're not going to go rolling > update with it, and rolling update is NOT for everybody, you really > /should/ reevaluate whether Gentoo is the really the best matching choice > for your needs. An "impedance mismatch" of that magnitude may be possible > to work around, but just because it's possible doesn't mean it's the most > efficient choice available, for sure. Duncan, thank you. I'm well aware of the advantages and disadvantages of Gentoo's "rolling update" distribution design, and really appreciate the advantages. My problem isn't knowledge, of which I have enough, but time. Maintaining a Gentoo system is a relatively time consuming activity, and I'm spread extremely thin these days. This problem box has been running Gentoo since 2004, but my work and priorities on my time have changed over the years and it's probably time to move on. Gentoo has gotten a lot more complex since then - arguably better, but certainly more time-consuming to maintain. In the meantime, I need to address the kernel | fstab | udev issue here. Insights and suggestions to address _this_ problem would be most helpful. Lectures on the age of my system, my qualifications as an admin for my own desktop, or my continued us of Gentoo as a desktop distribution are not helpful. -- Lindsay Haisley |"Windows ..... FMP Computer Services | life's too short!" 512-259-1190 | http://www.fmp.com | - Brad Johnston