Hi!

@john nilsson

>I hope that involves most things from Donal Norman. Also don't miss Jeff

>Raskins. Another concept that might be interesting in this space is

>David Allens theoris for "Getting Things Done". I've also found som nice

>articles on http://headrush.typepad.com/

>Also do some searching for activity based computing.

The theory actually is seperated in 3 parts:

* The GUI [ got JEFF RASKINS in here!]

- history,development ( zit. n. Mike Tuck, http://www.sitepoint.com/article/real-history-gui, vgl. Douglas C. Engelbart, http://www.invisiblerevolution.net/engelbart/full_62_paper_augm_hum_int.html, Jeremy Reimer, http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/gui.ars/)

- the desktop metaphor & alternate developments (filing, piling, lifestreams ..) (beyond the desktop metaphor, mit press)

- the social dimension (beyond the desktop metaphor, mit press)

* Designing Interactions (based on the book Designing interactions by bill moggridge - HE IS TALKIN ABOUT DAVID ALLENS and Getting Things Done ... or was it Mitch Kapor who was talking about that guy ... i think it was Mitch Kapor who bill was talkin about .. *g*)

- designing for everyday life (david little, team leader at the xerox star interface)

- how do you ...? (bill verplank, xerox star guy again ... about the process the designer developes an idea into an metaphor or scenario)

- design adopts technology (david kelley, IDEO ... about sociological integrated technology)

- things should be themselves (durrell bishop ... about designing functionality)

- designing interactions (bill moggridge ... about ideo and the actual science of designing interactions)

* Design Patterns

.... about to come

will be about some typical programming design patterns in the related context

* Practical Part ....

Thank You :) would be great if you could get me that stuff of your friend ... however, could send some of my stuff as well if it wasn't german ...

@dams

> My opinion on that is that we didn't achieve to get a consensu on what

> was our vision of the gentoo desktop, and what we wanted to

> improve/change. Some people at gentoo actually think that we shouldn't

> try to have a "gentoo desktop" concept : basically just including

> upstream desktop application is enough.

Hei, you really wanted to create one specific gentoo desktop?

what would that have been?

like a ready ebuild consisting of some special kde-features and some pre-arranged superkaramba themes??

sounds great!

still i'd say i very much understand your decision not to do something like this as the one's who are appreciating the features are growing less the more

specific and detailed the featured desktop gets ...

(see attachement *lol*)

uhm, i don't know what you mean by upstream desktop application ...

though i assume it is just options of extra-values the user can pick himself ..

anyway ... my idea is to do some kind of flash movie like integration into the background image of the desktop ...

it's not to replace any program functionalities ... i figured out that there are too many programs that do it's purpose too well so it would be nonsense to reinvent the wheel ...

i just thought it could be something pretty similar to that bumptop.com thing ...

maybe there could be some kind of functionality that would replace parts of file browsing and it's tree-structural kind of access ....

maybe the user could handle piles that would really be symlinked files in the file hierarchy (home/user/desktop/files/ ....) ... but he would never have to see and handle it this way (if he didn't want to)

maybe these files could be organized by properties like time, groups (work, spare time, fun, application, videos, pics .... ) and subgroups ... having some new kind of tools to easily and intuitivly access auto-generated piles by this very selected properties and groups.

ok, this is it. cu

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Johannes Neugschwentner