From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22418 invoked by uid 1002); 9 Oct 2003 15:39:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-desktop-research-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail Reply-To: gentoo-desktop-research@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-desktop-research@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 29202 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2003 15:39:31 -0000 From: foser To: gentoo-desktop-research@gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200310091646.19917.pauldv@gentoo.org> References: <200310091121.05738.pauldv@gentoo.org> <1065709863.3824.46.camel@rivendell> <200310091646.19917.pauldv@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065713837.3824.56.camel@rivendell> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 17:37:17 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] One research problem we could research X-Archives-Salt: 91b8a1a2-3afe-4181-87e9-4192538d1dc2 X-Archives-Hash: 48c8fa37bd3251e21f25734f232495f0 On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 16:46, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 09 October 2003 16:31, foser wrote: > > > > Here you already have a problem, the perception of font quality differs > > per-person and language. Some people really dislike AA (requires > > different fonts to be good), others use different types of displays, > > etc. And not latin language users usually know that they need extra > > packs to have decent support, don't expect anything non-latin to look > > good by default atm. > > > > I think that everyone agrees that ragged fonts are ugly (not rendered as > intended). This happens mainly without aa. Personally I use aa for fonts that > are outside the "normal range", so I would like that we try to make things > look ok with both. If you don't use AA you shouldn't be using TTF fonts, it's a whole different setup. In one way i agree with users that in essence good bitmap fonts are better for the desktop, but good bitmap fonts cost $$$. > For non-latin, I think we should look into making clear what needs to be done > for making it look good, which packages should be installed etc. Not all > people who would use those fonts know that. I believe they do, otherwise they're stuck with incomplete charsets or characters from different packs with different look. Anyway, this is all part of a much bigger picture. > > Again this is mostly a personal thing and it currently also depends on > > how you install xfree (this is in flux). > > We can at least identify the misrendered ones. (At least with -core, with qt, > and with gtk2/pango). Those should render approximately the same, sometimes > they don't. That might be fixable. One and the same font renders the same everywhere, only config settings influence this (well except for OO maybe). - foser -- gentoo-desktop-research@gentoo.org mailing list