From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12387 invoked by uid 1002); 9 Oct 2003 13:11:56 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gentoo-desktop-research-help@gentoo.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail Reply-To: gentoo-desktop-research@gentoo.org X-BeenThere: gentoo-desktop-research@gentoo.org Received: (qmail 2439 invoked from network); 9 Oct 2003 13:11:56 -0000 From: foser To: gentoo-desktop-research@gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <200310091121.05738.pauldv@gentoo.org> References: <200310091121.05738.pauldv@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1065704982.3824.5.camel@rivendell> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.5 Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 15:09:42 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [gentoo-desktop-research] One research problem we could research X-Archives-Salt: cbbe7bed-5a02-43a8-bedc-963b13399369 X-Archives-Hash: 6608f4a271b345bd5ff0a4d03140294d On Thu, 2003-10-09 at 11:21, Paul de Vrieze wrote: > I have one thing we might opt to research (after we have the project > procedures done). We might want to look into making good-looking fonts > available standardly. This is already being worked on, but we're waiting for some improvements in the xfree/fontconfig area to make this happen. It just isn't powerful enough at the moment. Anyway, this suggestion is very western centered, if you mess with defaults you might easily end up with weird results for non-western users. > In a standard install esp. the helvetica and other adobe fonts are really > ugly. This should not be needed. Also we could try to make sure that the > fonts have exactly the same size as on windows in the browsers as there are > still webdesigners that work with font size assumptions for their layout. You should install exactly the same fonts to have the same effect and thats also a question of installing windows fonts or not. KDE just has bad font defaults, helvetica everywhere is just a bad choice. Current fontconfig setups should solve most of these problems afaik. > Also I read a report complaining about openoffice fonts being ugly esp. on > gentoo (the only distro named). We should not just let that be, but try to > improve, and also write up a good manual on how and why fonts are beautiful/ > ugly. afaik OO uses its own (outdated?) freetype etc. Do from source ebuilds have these problems too ? They could use the system libs and settings. - foser -- gentoo-desktop-research@gentoo.org mailing list