Re: [gentoo-council] Extent of Code of Conduct enforcement

["Alec Warner" <antarus@gentoo.org>]

On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 6:35 AM, Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Can people be entirely banned from Gentoo?

no

>
> - What would such a ban include? Some ideas -- the person could not:
>  - Post to any gentoo mailing list;

technically feasible

>  - Post to gentoo bugzilla;

technically feasible

>  - Participate in #gentoo- IRC channels;

technically infeasible.  Also a hard sell; traditionally gentoo-*
channels that are not #gentoo-dev and #gentoo are owned and operated
by gentoo subprojects with the permission of the gentoo reps.
Enforcing a ban in all channels would be difficult.

>  - Contribute to gentoo (hence my corner case of a security fix) except
>    perhaps through a proxy;

nothing stops them from contributing to the community; it is not as if
Gentoo controls all outlets anyway.

>
> - Why would we do it?

To prevent gentoo from being messed with by people who have routinely
proven that they are unfit to assist the distribution.

>
> - Under whose authority would it happen?

Userrel.

>
> - Would it be reversible? What conditions would cause this?

I assume the person would ask to return or have someone vouch for them.

>
>  Since the banned person couldn't participate in Gentoo, we'd never
>  know whether anything changed.

I would think that if the person wanted to come back they would:

  Make an effort to contact Gentoo; It is not as if developers would
not talk to this individual.
  Gentoo itself would take this person back provisionally to ensure
things were different.  This is
  a case by case deal and I think is difficult to pin down.

>
> - How would one appeal this? Would there be a chance to respond before
>  the ban?

Since the ban would require some amount of history I don't see any
particular reason not to solicit feedback from said person.

>
> - Would moderating the gentoo-dev mailing list obsolete this concept?

If moderating gentoo-dev obsoletes this concept then I think the
concept itself is flawed (gentoo is more than gentoo-dev)

>
> --
> Thanks,
> Donnie
>
> Donnie Berkholz
> Developer, Gentoo Linux
> Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com
>
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