[gentoo-council] Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for Paludis kdebuild-1 removal

[gentoo-council] Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for Paludis kdebuild-1 removal

[Brian Harring]

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On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 07:54:25PM +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> Since kdebuild-1 is to be removed from PMS immediately, it's going to go
> from Paludis in the next release too. We need to warn users about this,
> since they'll no longer be able to uninstall kdebuild-1 packages they
> have installed. Please review the following GLEP 42 news item for this:
> 
> Title: Paludis kdebuild-1 Removal
> Author: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain
> Posted: 2009-12-14
> Revision: 1
> News-Item-Format: 1.0
> Display-If-Installed: <sys-apps/paludis-0.44_alpha
> 
> kdebuild-1 was an EAPI used by the Gentoo KDE team and the Genkdesvn
> project for various live ebuilds in overlays.
> 
> The Gentoo Council has decided that all mention of the kdebuild-1 EAPI
> is to be removed from the Package Manager Specification immediately. As
> such, support for this EAPI, including support for uninstalling
> packages with that EAPI, will be removed from Paludis in version 0.44.

"KDEBUILD is no longer in use by any developers, as such paludis will 
be removing support for it" is factually more accurate.

Council doesn't care if you leave KDEBUILD support in your PM- 
considering you've been claiming leaving it in PMS was needed for 
users (and that one must always think of the users), the wording 
implying blaim on the council is rather unnecessary.

Jam it in your NEWS/RELEASE notes if you want to slant it, basically.


> Users should verify that they have no kdebuild-1 packages installed. If
> Paludis was built with the 'inquisitio' use flag enabled, you can use:
> 
>     $ inquisitio -K installed -k EAPI kdebuild-1
> 
> Otherwise, use:
> 
>     $ paludis -q '*/*::/[.EAPI=kdebuild-1]'
> 
> and, if any such packages are installed, they must be uninstalled
> before Paludis is upgraded.

This seems like this news item should be hitting gentoo-kde's overlay 
on a sidenote- yes, the news item is about paludis, but the folk 
affected are the ones who daftly used KDEBUILD eapis out of that 
overlay.

Either this, or a seperate NEWS item added to that overlay stating 
"KDEBUILD is dead, remove those merged pkgs" would be wise.

~harring

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[gentoo-council] Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for Paludis kdebuild-1 removal

[Ulrich Mueller]

>>>>> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

> Please review the following GLEP 42 news item for this:

CC pr@gentoo.org please (as GLEP 42 requires).

> Display-If-Installed: <sys-apps/paludis-0.44_alpha

I think you should rather list the affected ebuilds here, i.e. the
ones that were using EAPI="kdebuild-1".

Ulrich

Re: [gentoo-council] Re: [gentoo-dev] News item for Paludis kdebuild-1 removal

[Ciaran McCreesh]

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On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 22:31:11 +0100
Ulrich Mueller <ulm@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >>>>> On Mon, 14 Dec 2009, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > Please review the following GLEP 42 news item for this:
> 
> CC pr@gentoo.org please (as GLEP 42 requires).

Oops. Sent.

> > Display-If-Installed: <sys-apps/paludis-0.44_alpha
> 
> I think you should rather list the affected ebuilds here, i.e. the
> ones that were using EAPI="kdebuild-1".

There's no way to match such packages using EAPI 0 deps (or any other
EAPI for that matter). Most of them were scm packages, but not
everything >9999 or whatever is kdebuild.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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