From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LY4st-0002YR-ID for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:43:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F2145E0411; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from qw-out-1920.google.com (qw-out-1920.google.com [74.125.92.144]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC9F5E0411; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 20:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by qw-out-1920.google.com with SMTP id 9so533598qwj.10 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:43:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:date:from:to :cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:user-agent; bh=q0Vl+jW7CGc0M6aDIBYf835+J8vMPJK6E/fWd613XJk=; b=kXAdZlwSyKvCPk4/25A3xBTPplRw8tEVDUFxqpVoDqkEKaIS0ut3axqxKIKd2yOVbG U49B5mk1BQUQ7ZEkWRrlxXGDciMkj5ezklmkx33VKyrtpw8yKLQOtsBX7Km7u8zRfN3e j98XfHkzkzW56rPqT+b8Huj/Mpif5qM22JNok= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :user-agent; b=NVDuPlhCR1Ks++Mkh7/m3jsGjNKFJYYDKy9etJEQlOZZDA/vvmGDg68Iq+vE8H0b5l oBEbgoTcQed9/aYtwpTaenGfcgLyruDqtrLT+MwLJee5yZ9VNmbDkJvceNAct1lR7i+1 i4XBsX7nzdlvdhPpNgJbftHAcZ6MnAG1Jelbk= Received: by 10.224.46.10 with SMTP id h10mr4040413qaf.180.1234557818486; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:43:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.gmail.com (c-69-249-154-72.hsd1.nj.comcast.net [69.249.154.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 30sm716942yxk.42.2009.02.13.12.43.37 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 13 Feb 2009 12:43:38 -0800 (PST) Sender: Thomas Anderson Received: by smtp.gmail.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) gentoofan23@gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:43:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:43:37 -0500 From: Thomas Anderson To: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org Cc: gentoo-dev-announce@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-council] Council meeting summary for 12 February 2009 Message-ID: <20090213204337.GA27298@dodo.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: b7ef238d-20e8-43a8-93ae-ca04b1ed44e4 X-Archives-Hash: 0ed17b75a8d0df820b852de86235a414 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi all, Here is the summary from Thursday's council meeting. The full log will show up at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/ shortly. Regards, Thomas --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="councilsummary-20090212.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roll Call: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Betelgeuse: here Cardoe: here dberkholz: here dertobi123: here dev-zero: here Halcy0n: absent lu_zero: here tanderson(secretary): here Topics: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Secretary: - Should the council have a dedicated secretary? Previously dberkholz fulfilled this roll, but he became busy. Because fulfilling the secretary duties can distract from the meeting, a dedicated, non-council member secretary is ideal. Conclusion: tanderson is the new secretary. Logs and summary are to be posted on the -council mailing list. If no objections to it are raised in 1 day, it is posted to the council page and lists. Elections: - Staggered elections Should there be staggered elections every 6 months where half the council members stand for reelection? Conclusion: Leave as-is, elections every 6 months is too cumbersome. Full electi= ons will be held once a year. - Lack of nominated candidates What happens if there aren't enough candidates nominated to fill all the council seats? Conclusion: If the pseudo-candidate '_reopen_nominations' appears in 7th place or higher those candidates that rank above '_reopen_nominations' will be the current council. A second period of nominations will be opened for the remaining council seats. No third period of nominations will be opened in the event '_repoen_nominations' ranks higher than the candidates necessary to fill the council. Technical Issues: - Prepalldocs Should the 'prepalldocs' be allowed in current EAPIs? Conclusion: Prepalldocs is banned in current EAPIs(0,1,2). It should be removed from ebuilds. Petteri R=C3=A4ty(Betelgeuse) will make= QA checks for repoman. - BASH version allowed in the tree. PMS states that ebuilds can only rely on BASH 3.0 features. Howev= er, some code in gentoo-x86 uses BASH 3.1 features('+=3D' being the m= ost notable) and so is not in conformance with PMS. It was suggested = that BASH versions newer than 3.0 be allowed in a future EAPI. Ciaran Mccreesh, however, commented that this would require GLEP 55 bein= g accepted so that a package manager would not have to source the e= build before knowing what BASH version it requires. Conclusion: No decision. Doug(Cardoe) will follow this up with Tiziano(dev-zero) as a backup. Open Bugs =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Technical: - GLEP 54(-scm package version suffix, bug 234711[1]) GLEP 54 solves two problems, version ordering and periodic reinstall of live packages. The Live Template proposal[2] overlaps in that it = also allows for periodic reinstall of live packages. Luca(lu_zero) maintains that Live Template provides proper version ordering, wh= ile Ciaran(ciaranm) maintains that it does not.=20 Conclusion: No decision. The council cracked the whip on Luca(lu_zero) an= d he's going to handle the issue. - GLEP 55(.ebuild-$eapi ebuild suffix) Should .ebuild-$eapi be approved? This ties in with "BASH version allowed in the tree" issue mentioned above. Conclusion: No decision. Tiziano(dev-zero) will be handling this bug. Non-Technical: - Code of Conduct No discussion. Conclusion: No decision. Donnie(dberkholz) will be handling this bug. References: [1]: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D234711 [2]: http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero/glep/liveebuild.rst --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z--