From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LY0NM-0000qy-Gr for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:54:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EEEE3E03E2; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gx0-f175.google.com (mail-gx0-f175.google.com [209.85.217.175]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9F69E03EC for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 15:54:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gxk23 with SMTP id 23so935305gxk.10 for ; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:54:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:sender:received:date:from:to :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=kxznj2CxuT1uRjpGwe/TCeFWqZREC16peplxLs3KuFc=; b=njr6/r3uBzCCtXP3H4owLeAQ8vOQDgIHNwDotZqIlGbxRTJ0g2EJABYcJJB0aQRteW SgcdJLbx9933CoWlqraYDCgWKcpO+EakCuG4lLZBp45GdBOJZgdgZaM7xgoG9OQew+fe tD5ZEy7LI1Qqa+58KvnxQd7qTL/6ppBxXRgD8= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to:user-agent; b=iViIo7KiantLxGjwBhoGCccb/23v56lwmzg6SQxy+AJIvvRF+nQflXY2Npx6y735A6 iPF68ZFGnUvaW39svIw+UdgtxSIejZvcX/w5JwJlAXXmuRT2EnGHHII2PxBAw9uJNUkz udFqLqPRRVzWSMaZjAfSTE546VIWXqEdpEWM4= Received: by 10.100.131.16 with SMTP id e16mr3097138and.67.1234540487362; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:54:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.gmail.com (c-69-249-154-72.hsd1.nj.comcast.net [69.249.154.72]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b7sm2068651ana.39.2009.02.13.07.54.46 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 13 Feb 2009 07:54:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: Thomas Anderson Received: by smtp.gmail.com (nbSMTP-1.00) for uid 1000 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) gentoofan23@gentoo.org; Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:54:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2009 10:54:45 -0500 From: Thomas Anderson To: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] Council log and summary for meeting on 02/12/09 Message-ID: <20090213155445.GA31550@dodo.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> References: <20090212214925.GA21532@dodo.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20090212214925.GA21532@dodo.hsd1.nj.comcast.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 9618dc11-5808-4e23-b8d5-d4110b171b1a X-Archives-Hash: a8886f0ec02e80bd439fe3e27cf0af96 --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 04:49:25PM -0500, Thomas Anderson wrote: > They are attached. Revised summary attached, thanks for the comments. --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="councilsummary-20090212.txt" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roll Call: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Betelgeuse: here Cardoe: here dberkholz: here dertobi123: here dev-zero: here Halcy0n: absent lu_zero: here tanderson(secretary): here Topics: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Secretary: - Should the council have a dedicated secretary? Previously dberkholz fulfilled this roll, but he became busy. Because fulfilling the secretary duties can distract from the meeting, a dedicated, non-council member secretary is ideal. Conclusion: tanderson is the new secretary. Logs and summary are to be posted on the -council mailing list. If no objections to it are raised in 1 day, it is posted to the council page and lists. Elections: - Staggered elections Should there be staggered elections every 6 months where half the council members stand for reelection? Conclusion: Leave as-is, elections every 6 months is too cumbersome. Full electi= ons will be held once a year. - Lack of nominated candidates What happens if there aren't enough candidates nominated to fill all the council seats? Conclusion: If the pseudo-candidate '_reopen_nominations' appears in 7th place or higher those candidates that rank above '_reopen_nominations' will be the current council. A second period of nominations will be opened for the remaining council seats. No third period of nominations will be opened in the event '_repoen_nominations' ranks higher than the candidates necessary to fill the council. Technical Issues: - Prepalldocs Should the 'prepalldocs' be allowed in current EAPIs? Conclusion: Prepalldocs is banned in current EAPIs(0,1,2). It should be removed from ebuilds. Petteri R=C3=A4ty(Betelgeuse) will make= QA checks for repoman. - BASH version allowed in the tree. PMS states that ebuilds can only rely on BASH 3.0 features. Howev= er, some code in gentoo-x86 uses BASH 3.1 features('+=3D' being the m= ost notable) and so is not in conformance with PMS. It was suggested = that BASH versions newer than 3.0 be allowed in a future EAPI. Ciaran Mccreesh, however, commented that this would require GLEP 55 bein= g accepted so that a package manager would not have to source the e= build before knowing what BASH version it requires. Conclusion: No decision. Doug(Cardoe) will follow this up with Tiziano(dev-zero) as a backup. Open Bugs =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Technical: - GLEP 54(-scm package version suffix, bug 234711[1]) GLEP 54 solves two problems, version ordering and periodic reinstall of live packages. The Live Template proposal[2] overlaps in that it = also allows for periodic reinstall of live packages. The Live Template Pr= oposal does not, however, provide correct ordering. Conclusion: No decision. The council cracked the whip on Luca(lu_zero) an= d he's going to handle the issue. - GLEP 55(.ebuild-$eapi ebuild suffix) Should .ebuild-$eapi be approved? This ties in with "BASH version allowed in the tree" issue mentioned above. Conclusion: No decision. Tiziano(dev-zero) will be handling this bug. Non-Technical: - Code of Conduct No discussion. Conclusion: No decision. Donnie(dberkholz) will be handling this bug. References: [1]: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D234711 [2]: http://dev.gentoo.org/~lu_zero/glep/liveebuild.rst --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn--