From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LXfFZ-000162-SP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:21:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 57806E04EC; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:21:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.169]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12DB3E04EC for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:21:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id j40so42569ugd.39 for ; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:21:20 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer:mime-version :content-type; bh=i3hrDYuRDKqBYTS+FFBK0aZom3FOKPcleGIdBer+lbw=; b=cwoaOLDHjeonBGUuCd2j5zhCw40xx1ADqYIVJ59Iw/3CqAZyEFiU03RQgglfsj4RmL 3oqWca4lN1rD1thAU8CW5EcFnwo7H169mMWknwdXXg7H4vZmGWaCP45qoRfUCOIxh6Ue Hk9nBPUaARfAM3hVoI1Blvt1BWIpMwtxIB4EU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; b=g6ZOjg2gX+5FNoP4JEId2zjR/wEwGXvDyHM7+FQVcKxoGVa37vcOuOnDg7x38TMBE6 IP5GFdfjIIVuHAcvV5KGjCh8GWC5Q9w2QPvu5q6Yu9IO07oq10EICzIhK5Gs2kg/s0QG +8mo8V+yiMISqqC8WUb8M2YHquYdqiDov5TAE= Received: by 10.210.137.17 with SMTP id k17mr830075ebd.138.1234459280264; Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from snowcone (92-235-187-79.cable.ubr18.sgyl.blueyonder.co.uk [92.235.187.79]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 7sm485839eyg.37.2009.02.12.09.21.18 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:21:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:21:09 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: Donnie Berkholz Cc: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009 Message-ID: <20090212172109.778fb268@snowcone> In-Reply-To: <20090212171055.GA3652@comet> References: <1234257125.18160.2016.camel@localhost> <1234450419.20950.2.camel@localhost> <20090212160045.GB3642@comet> <20090212161644.GD3642@comet> <20090212162103.256b003f@snowcone> <20090212171055.GA3652@comet> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/2PRwblwPY7ebNoXlOqG2gSY"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: d6723b5f-a624-408b-84b8-131b999d0ddb X-Archives-Hash: e0fd77860fdb2c9d511a1d2e2d85bf10 --Sig_/2PRwblwPY7ebNoXlOqG2gSY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:10:55 -0800 Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 16:21 Thu 12 Feb , Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:16:45 -0800 > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > I think we should update the PMS to bash 3.1 to allow for '+=3D' > > > use. I looked through the bash changelog, and 3.2 didn't appear > > > to add any new and useful features. We should then require a new > > > EAPI for new bash features. > >=20 > > That would require GLEP 55 to provide any protection. A new EAPI on > > its own wouldn't be enough. >=20 > What kind of protection are you talking about The problem is, without GLEP 55, EAPI isn't known before the ebuild is sourced to generate metadata. If someone uses +=3D anywhere that older bash looks when sourcing for metadata generation (which is not just global scope), the package manager won't know that the EAPI says that bash-3.1 is required for sourcing until after it's already done the sourcing, by which point it's too late. > and is it already in place for every bash feature in 3.0? The bash 3.0 transition was done before EAPIs came along, and was handled by the old fashioned "wait for ages until we're absolutely sure that everyone has bash 3.0 before continuing" method. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/2PRwblwPY7ebNoXlOqG2gSY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkmUWosACgkQ96zL6DUtXhFf0QCg5fG072HWSmeolJ9s3jV20Md9 X0UAoMArwN24mPJHaIqjBdqr7xZGPmCK =vAVj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/2PRwblwPY7ebNoXlOqG2gSY--