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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org>
Cc: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 17:21:09 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090212172109.778fb268@snowcone> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090212171055.GA3652@comet>

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On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:10:55 -0800
Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 16:21 Thu 12 Feb     , Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> > On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 08:16:45 -0800
> > Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > I think we should update the PMS to bash 3.1 to allow for '+='
> > > use. I looked through the bash changelog, and 3.2 didn't appear
> > > to add any new and useful features. We should then require a new
> > > EAPI for new bash features.
> > 
> > That would require GLEP 55 to provide any protection. A new EAPI on
> > its own wouldn't be enough.
> 
> What kind of protection are you talking about

The problem is, without GLEP 55, EAPI isn't known before the ebuild is
sourced to generate metadata. If someone uses += anywhere that older
bash looks when sourcing for metadata generation (which is not just
global scope), the package manager won't know that the EAPI says that
bash-3.1 is required for sourcing until after it's already done the
sourcing, by which point it's too late.

> and is it already in  place for every bash feature in 3.0?

The bash 3.0 transition was done before EAPIs came along, and was
handled by the old fashioned "wait for ages until we're absolutely sure
that everyone has bash 3.0 before continuing" method.

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-02-12 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-10  9:12 [gentoo-council] Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009 Tiziano Müller
2009-02-10 21:25 ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-02-12  6:53   ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-12 15:50     ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-02-12 15:55       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-12 16:01         ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-02-12 16:12           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-12 17:28             ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-02-12 16:47           ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-12 17:20             ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-02-10 23:11 ` [gentoo-council] Website changes [WAS] " Donnie Berkholz
2009-02-11 15:51   ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-11 19:19     ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-02-11 20:01       ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-10 23:13 ` [gentoo-council] GSoC results from 2008 " Donnie Berkholz
2009-02-12  5:48   ` Alec Warner
2009-02-12 14:53 ` [gentoo-council] " Tiziano Müller
2009-02-12 16:00   ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-02-12 16:16     ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-02-12 16:21       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-12 17:10         ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-02-12 17:21           ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2009-02-12 17:37             ` Donnie Berkholz
2009-02-12 18:03               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-12 19:01                 ` Alistair Bush
2009-02-12 19:08                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-12 19:54                   ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-12 20:01                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-19 10:06                 ` Peter Volkov
2009-02-19 12:51                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-19 13:30                     ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-19 15:23                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-19 21:11                     ` Peter Volkov
2009-02-19 21:21                       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-22 23:16                       ` [gentoo-council] " Ryan Hill
2009-02-22 23:37                         ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-22 23:48                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23  2:15                             ` Issues regarding glep-55 (Was: [gentoo-council] Re: Preliminary Meeting-Topics for 12 February 2009) Luca Barbato
2009-02-23  8:38                               ` Tiziano Müller
2009-02-23 13:21                                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 13:40                                   ` Thomas Anderson
2009-02-23 13:57                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2009-02-23 14:46                                 ` Luca Barbato
2009-02-23 14:59                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh

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