From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LPmjW-0006Lk-ET for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:43:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C325AE060D; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 789EBE060D for ; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:43:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from gentoo.org (xray.science.oregonstate.edu [128.193.220.51]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E449F64973; Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:43:40 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:43:40 -0800 From: Donnie Berkholz To: Roy Bamford Cc: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] Voting procedure Message-ID: <20090121234340.GB15870@comet> References: <1231419666.7249.0.camel@localhost> <1231592642.3886.0@spike> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1231592642.3886.0@spike> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Archives-Salt: 0d6892b8-7c4f-47c6-aa2b-e438d4502e72 X-Archives-Hash: 87bc1d5540075b719ecd2d1340f9a52d --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 13:03 Sat 10 Jan , Roy Bamford wrote: > I would like to widen the discussion a little. I propose that council=20 > members serve for two years, not the current year and that half the=20 > seats are contested every year. >=20 > This helps ensure a smooth transition from one council to the next and=20 > avoids the case where a council near the end of its term decides to=20 > 'leave it for the new council' and the new council takes a few months=20 > to find its feet. We have seen both cases already. >=20 > Council can debate/vote on that any time, or even decide to hold a=20 > referendum. I definitely think we need to hear from more people outside the council=20 on this before making any decision. I like the idea of longer terms, and=20 at the same time I see solar's point about people getting re-elected. If=20 we're staggered, we're constantly getting an influx of new people=20 regardless so the continuity is in the re-elected ones. > To answer your questions directly, I'm not happy with the 'fake person' > A democracy gets the leadership it deserves, if there are seven=20 > vacanices and only seven candidates, they should be elected unopposed.=20 > No vote required. I'd rather have 5 people I want in charge than those same 5 people plus=20 2 more who are totally unsuitable for council. Gentoo deserves the=20 people our community want on the council, and nobody else. > The 'none of the below' option can force a continuious cycle of=20 > nominations/elections So? As long as the cycle continues, the current council remains in place. --=20 Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Developer, Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAkl3sywACgkQXVaO67S1rtsKKwCfdRO+0D/+8da70fTOZUW6jrnI YssAn2BfzYTIvDJwuKSnIz8pzarv2Pr3 =ebdC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vGgW1X5XWziG23Ko--