From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1L1obU-0005lQ-F5 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:52:20 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4B5E2E01F3; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 036E2E01F3 for ; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from anaconda.krait.us (unknown [74.93.222.225]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4E4C64842; Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:52:18 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:52:06 +0000 From: Ferris McCormick To: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] Re: Stepping back from council duties Message-ID: <20081116205206.6bffa675@anaconda.krait.us> In-Reply-To: References: <491EF351.8040200@gentoo.org> <20081116060043.GD23210@comet> <20081116124154.TA6c518.tv@veller.net> <20081116175546.GH23210@comet> <20081116182110.6d1295ac@anaconda.krait.us> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.12.11; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/bpVtmvuc_Ei37UyxN8fUN6w"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 X-Archives-Salt: f453172d-d8e1-4f64-95e7-413265d02a7c X-Archives-Hash: 051714bba78c287b7442f458487e74ac --Sig_/bpVtmvuc_Ei37UyxN8fUN6w Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 12:36:13 -0800 "Alec Warner" wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:21 AM, Ferris McCormick wr= ote: > > On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:55:46 -0800 > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > >> On 13:04 Sun 16 Nov , Torsten Veller wrote: > >> > Or did you already remove rank 18? > >> > > >> > | * Whenever a member of the Council loses their position (the reaso= n is > >> > | irrelevant; they could be booted for slacking or they resign or = ...), then > >> > | the next person in line from the previous Council election is of= fered the > >> > | position. If they decline, it is offered to the next person in = line, and so > >> > | forth. If they accept and the current Council unanimously accep= ts the new > >> > | person, they get the position with a 'reduced' term such that th= e yearly > >> > | elections still elect a full group. If the Council does not acc= ept that > >> > | person, then a new election is held to choose a new member. > >> > > >> > > >> > So your options are: > >> > - Change the rules once again. Because you can. > >> > - Follow the rules. > >> > >> Try thinking about this from a different perspective: What is best for > >> Gentoo? If the rules are broken, they should get fixed instead of > >> blindly followed. > >> > > > > I agree with that. In this case, it seems to me that 7 council members > > is better for Gentoo than 6, and if the Council members do not > > unanimously accept anyone down the list, then just hold an election for > > the missing spot. I think the rules pretty much have it right here. > > > > I am neither agreeing nor disagreeing with your analysis, as that is a > > matter for the council members. I'm just saying that rather than hold > > the position open, just hold a brief election to fill it. >=20 > By its very definition our election process tends not to be brief. I > believe the best we have done in the past is 2 weeks of nominations > followed by 2 weeks of voting (previous council vote). Do you propose > something faster or will one month of 6 members be satisfactory? >=20 > -Alec >=20 Is that addressed to me? I'm not sure I understand your question, but by "brief" I just meant Jorge's schedule. All I'm saying is that one way or another we should fill the position, and if Council choose to fill it by holding an election rather than by moving to the next developer on the list, then the schedule is what it is. > > > > To save some virtual trees, I'll respond to your other email about your > > and Ciaran's "nobody" proposal. Good idea, put me in the "support" > > column. > > > > Regards, > > Ferris > >> -- > >> Thanks, > >> Donnie > >> > >> Donnie Berkholz > >> Developer, Gentoo Linux > >> Blog: http://dberkholz.wordpress.com > > > > > > -- > > Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) > > Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Userrel, Trustees) > > Regards, Ferris -- Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) Developer, Gentoo Linux (Sparc, Userrel, Trustees) --Sig_/bpVtmvuc_Ei37UyxN8fUN6w Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAkkgiAAACgkQQa6M3+I///f8RACgzm+zIc992SOQxnmiGAM/6IV/ qQcAnjdffgykzXNcaslve/MLqeAU5SKf =BDoY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/bpVtmvuc_Ei37UyxN8fUN6w--