From: Mike Frysinger <vapier@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: Markus Ullmann <jokey@gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] Retirement of slacking peeps
Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:41:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200801150641.58670.vapier@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200801150636.37961.vapier@gentoo.org>
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On Tuesday 15 January 2008, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Tuesday 15 January 2008, Markus Ullmann wrote:
> > our retirement folks brought up a discussion about retiring people that
> > do a small amount of commits (1-2 mostly) right before the 60 day period
> > ends so they stay active yet are effectively slacking.
> >
> > I gave a starting idea to change the minimum amount to something like
> > $count of fixed bugs per month for ebuild developers. As we have enough
> > bugs that are trivial to fix this shouldn't be a real problem at the
> > moment (considering we have ~6.5k bugs open excluding maintainer-wanted).
>
> the metric for retirement lies with devrel and whatever sub projects
> they've partitioned/created for these topics. the larger developer base is
> free to make their opinions known to devrel on the various matters and if
> they feel things are not moving in the right direction, we can review the
> matter. but i would say this is hardly close to the point for us to review
>
> > Reason that brought it to attention is the retirement bug for the
> > current QA lead spb. (https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=64840)
> >
> > To resolve the current situation there I gave the advice to just hold
> > project lead votings that every project has to do every 12 months.
>
> i think the rules are in place to help keep things moving smoothly. in
> other words, they are guidelines which are not absolute, especially in an
> open source project such as ours.
>
> in this particular case, i would consider these facts to be self evident
> (and painfully so):
> - the current QA lead has effectively done nothing for the entire run of
> holding the position
> - the current QA lead is pretty inactive in many (most?) Gentoo things
> - the previous QA lead was very active in constantly improving Gentoo life
> - the previous QA lead would like to resume improving Gentoo life
>
> taking these facts into consideration, the logical move would be for the
> current QA lead to step down and allow the previous QA lead to step up.
> Mark has more than proved his constant drive for quality. Stephen on the
> other hand has done nothing of the sort.
along these lines, if the situation does not resolve itself, i would ask for
us to vote on the matter come our next council meeting. i believe without a
doubt that Mark in anything but the QA lead role would be a huge disservice
to the entire project.
-mike
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Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-01-15 11:15 [gentoo-council] Retirement of slacking peeps Markus Ullmann
2008-01-15 11:36 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-01-15 11:41 ` Mike Frysinger [this message]
2008-01-16 8:15 ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-01-16 10:57 ` Mike Doty
2008-01-16 11:06 ` Mike Doty
2008-01-16 11:43 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-01-16 20:40 ` Ned Ludd
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