From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IqDFW-00072x-Jg for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 19:41:11 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with SMTP id lA8Jf3gA031280; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:41:03 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.14.2/8.14.0) with ESMTP id lA8Jf0BV031268 for ; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:41:03 GMT Received: from gentoo.org (c-67-171-150-177.hsd1.or.comcast.net [67.171.150.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2728652DD; Thu, 8 Nov 2007 19:41:02 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 11:41:01 -0800 From: Donnie Berkholz To: Steen Eugen Poulsen Cc: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] CoC enforcement proposal Message-ID: <20071108194101.GO5516@supernova> References: <20071108120507.GJ5516@supernova> <47336249.2020200@lix-world.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-council@gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <47336249.2020200@lix-world.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.16 (2007-06-09) X-Archives-Salt: 53702867-bcaa-4690-a3c9-168b631db83e X-Archives-Hash: 9b77acf65abab6184e29b1cacea81ff6 On 20:23 Thu 08 Nov , Steen Eugen Poulsen wrote: > Donnie Berkholz skrev: > > This is a bit later than I intended because of real life interference, > > but here's some ideas for how to enforce the CoC. It's a little long, > > sorry about that; we can push off the vote again if we don't have a > > majority of people prepared for it by the meeting. > > > > I separated it into problem, conceptual solution, and implementation so > > you can decide which levels you like and which could use tweaking. > > I don't understand this discussion. > > Your saying you don't trust the people to do the job so they need to be > looked over the shoulder every second, this creates a bad environment > for them to do the work and is a sure fire way of making things fail, > because you don't use positive psychology. Could you point me to where I said something about looking over their shoulder every second? I didn't think an annual review was that onerous. Are you talking about the team's lead approving its major actions? That seems like basic management to me. I'd like to understand your point, but I don't. Thanks, Donnie -- gentoo-council@gentoo.org mailing list