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From: Tobias Scherbaum <dertobi123@gentoo.org>
To: Donnie Berkholz <dberkholz@gentoo.org>
Cc: Ferris McCormick <fmccor@gentoo.org>, gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] Re: Stepping back from council duties
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2008 19:31:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1226946713.3939.47.camel@homer.ob.libexec.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20081117175525.GA23297@comet>

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Donnie Berkholz wrote:
> On 18:49 Mon 17 Nov     , Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
> > So we could end up with only 1 council member in the worst case? ;)
> 
> Yes, although worst is a matter of definition. If the developer 
> community wants what is effectively a benevolent dictator, then let's 
> give it to them. This is, after all, a community distribution so we 
> should do what the community wants.

That would lead us to completely new (or old) leadership model. If I was
to vote on a council I'd like to get a council, not a benevolent
dictator. 

> > I don't think that's something we really want.
> 
> The majority of developers should choose what kind of leadership they 
> want, instead of us deciding for them.

I'm speaking for myself here - I personally don't want a dictatorship.

> > In my opinion we need to have at minimum 5 council members to make 
> > sure there's some kind of redundancy plus to get different views and 
> > ideas on issues brought up to the council.
> 
> Anyone can contribute views and ideas ... why do you need to be on the 
> council to do that? Most of the issues are discussed on -dev, and I've 
> pushed to make that a requirement and meetings as primarily just votes.

Discussions on a proposal are only one part, but it needs to be voted
upon that proposal. Having a larger council makes sure a broader part of
the developer community and there views are represented in that decision
making. Again, that's my personal opinion - I'm clearly in favor of the
democratic approach instead of a dictatorship model.

  Tobias

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-17 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-15 16:05 [gentoo-council] Stepping back from council duties Markus Ullmann
2008-11-16  6:00 ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-11-16 12:04   ` [gentoo-council] " Torsten Veller
2008-11-16 13:36     ` Ferris McCormick
2008-11-16 13:45       ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2008-11-16 15:51         ` Torsten Veller
2008-11-17  2:55           ` Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
2008-11-16 17:55     ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-11-16 18:21       ` Ferris McCormick
2008-11-16 18:40         ` Tobias Scherbaum
2008-11-16 18:44           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-11-17 17:38             ` Tobias Scherbaum
2008-11-17 18:03               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2008-11-17 18:18                 ` Tobias Scherbaum
2008-11-17 16:15           ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-11-17 17:49             ` Tobias Scherbaum
2008-11-17 17:55               ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-11-17 18:31                 ` Tobias Scherbaum [this message]
2008-11-17 19:13                   ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-11-17 18:31             ` Roy Bamford
2008-11-17 19:16               ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-11-17 21:36               ` Roy Bamford
2008-11-17 21:45                 ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-11-16 20:36         ` Alec Warner
2008-11-16 20:52           ` Ferris McCormick
2008-11-20 14:19       ` Torsten Veller
2008-11-20 17:29         ` Donnie Berkholz
2008-11-16 16:48   ` [gentoo-council] " Tobias Scherbaum
2008-11-16 17:43     ` Donnie Berkholz

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