From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KjJR3-0002Bh-BO for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:57:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 709A9E072B; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from homeless.linbsd.net (homeless.linbsd.net [64.127.112.66]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50FA0E072B for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 19:57:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (dsl092-011-131.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.92.11.131]) by homeless.linbsd.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 488DC587EB; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] The slacker mark From: Ned Ludd To: Mike Frysinger Cc: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org, Torsten Veller In-Reply-To: <200809261526.24780.vapier@gentoo.org> References: <20080926091614.TA9636d.tv@veller.net> <200809261526.24780.vapier@gentoo.org> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 12:57:03 -0700 Message-Id: <1222459023.6175.141.camel@media> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: fa5f2daf-0c57-49db-8791-5b28e0d82b5b X-Archives-Hash: 6ee03ff5d18c112d6a4dbb7a5c083583 On Fri, 2008-09-26 at 15:26 -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On Friday 26 September 2008, Torsten Veller wrote: > > We should clearify the "new election" part in time. I think this council > > started in July 2008 and there will be many meetings that can be missed > > in the next 9 month. > > > > As there is already a replacement strategy for devs leaving the council > > (take the next ranked candidate if the council agrees, else elect one) > > one might think to use the same for a slacker missing any further > > meeting. But that doesn't work as the slacker can be elected again: > > just make the replacement strategies the same. replacement for a booted > slacker is the same for someone who resigns council/Gentoo or is kicked out. > elections take time and are a hassle. selecting from the original list is a > lot simpler. > -mike I strongly disagree with this method. People opt to not run for the council when they see what they expect to be a strong council. So if you see you have 8 pretty strong devs and 6 weak ones running. That's good enough sign to make you decline any nominations. As the people get sick etc this defaulting to the next inline can lead to results of the council which could completely and radically destroy Gentoo.