From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JPkxz-0000gq-Fz for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:45:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A36EBE076E; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from heisenberg.zen.co.uk (heisenberg.zen.co.uk [212.23.3.141]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821CAE076E for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:45:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [62.3.120.141] (helo=spike) by heisenberg.zen.co.uk with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JPkxx-0002ac-Sa; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:45:58 +0000 Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 20:45:49 +0000 From: Roy Bamford Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] CoC: informal enforcement To: Donnie Berkholz Cc: Ned Ludd , gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20080214200818.GH3768@comet.science.oregonstate.edu> (from dberkholz@gentoo.org on Thu Feb 14 20:08:18 2008) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.3.22 Message-Id: <1203021957l.5905l.2l@spike> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Originating-Heisenberg-IP: [62.3.120.141] X-Archives-Salt: 957ddb57-2ab5-4120-b496-884c78894dbb X-Archives-Hash: d057bf154a31cedd6199fef7015fd428 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2008.02.14 20:08, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > On 12:03 Thu 14 Feb , Ned Ludd wrote: > >=20 > > Umm so yeah. That's still more or less what proctors role was. I'm > > sure you can get that very same group of people to help out here. >=20 > My hope is that with no team of people assigned to doing this stuff, > we=20 > can actually build a culture and get more people participating rather=20 > than having "the people who do that stuff" and everyone else. >=20 > Thanks, > Donnie > --=20 > gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org mailing list >=20 Donnie, The cynic in me sees the secret-proctors project taking shape. =20 I have a great deal of empathy with the ideal. However, its better if=20 these 'stop being a dickhead' messages come privately from a respected=20 college than from a comparative stranger.=20 Gentoo is big enough now so that many devs never work/speak with one=20 another, which is a part of the problem you are trying to address here. I don't think we need a group to do this - we already have one. The=20 developer pool, we need to raise awareness. It needs publicity to=20 encourage everyone to participate, something like a 'don't be a=20 dickhead day'. Ned, I think very few ex-proctors would be jumping in for a second helping=20 after the way they were supported by the council that created them. - --=20 Regards, Roy Bamford (NeddySeagoon) a member of gentoo-ops forum-mods treecleaners -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHtKiFTE4/y7nJvasRApfMAKDlB0V2WKnt07QtheFXHTO8Twnf2gCfR3eT C+aNli8dtZZF+kvw3+/GCAE=3D =3D2R4N -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org mailing list