From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JPdKF-0006QQ-WD for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:36:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA090E07D8; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B351BE07D8 for ; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:36:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.213] (unknown [74.92.132.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBAD64D93; Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:36:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: [gentoo-council] CoC: informal enforcement From: Ferris McCormick To: Donnie Berkholz Cc: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org In-Reply-To: <20080214101334.GA9749@supernova> References: <20080214101334.GA9749@supernova> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-1TIgIexjUrP/c4UzHXji" Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2008 12:36:23 +0000 Message-Id: <1202992583.6251.4.camel@liasis.inforead.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.12.2 X-Archives-Salt: cf899b6d-db90-419a-aeba-5dedf8ca16a8 X-Archives-Hash: f8985063303d8fee891f145b2d957a60 --=-1TIgIexjUrP/c4UzHXji Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2008-02-14 at 02:13 -0800, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > I'm proposing to start CoC enforcement in a simple manner that doesn't=20 > require approval of any sort, and I'd like to discuss it at the council=20 > meeting to get your feedback. >=20 > What I want to do is build a core culture of people who refuse to=20 > tolerate assholes. We can do this by getting together a small group who=20 > will reply to any gentoo-dev posts or #gentoo-dev comments by people who=20 > are being jerks, telling them that they're being a jerk and not replying=20 > to the substance of the jerk's post at all. Replies to the substance of=20 > a post would come separately or not at all. Having a group of people=20 > reply to hostile posters should begin rebuilding a culture that doesn't=20 > tolerate that type of action. >=20 > People who are consistently jerks are incompetent developers and should=20 > be treated as such. >=20 > Thanks, > Donnie Nice idea and worth a try. I have one concern. Since we are talking CoC here, I'd like to emphasise that "assholeness" should be determined within the guidelines of the CoC. Not by some person's own conception of "assholeness" --- I'd hate to see a flame war about just who is being the asshole in any particular instance. Regards, --=20 Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI) Developer, Gentoo Linux (Devrel, Sparc, Userrel) --=-1TIgIexjUrP/c4UzHXji Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQBHtDXHQa6M3+I///cRAgFQAJ91XTNbSFdv1pTDJF+zUJAJneMnnACgggRo WFgmUJYzFli0FlB2kGNA23s= =OVQm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-1TIgIexjUrP/c4UzHXji-- -- gentoo-council@lists.gentoo.org mailing list