* [gentoo-commits] gentoo commit in xml/htdocs/foundation/en/minutes09/2009: 11Apr2009_annual_general_meeting_log.txt 11Jan2009_trustees_meeting_log.txt 15Feb2009_trustees_meeting_log.txt 20090111_trustees_meeting_log.txt 200901_trustees_agenda.xml 20090215_trustees_meeting_log.txt 20090222_trustees_meeting_log.txt 200902_trustees_agenda.xml 20090307_AGM_presidents_report.xml 20090322_trustees_meeting_log.txt 200903_trustees_agenda.xml 20090411_AGM_trustees_meeting_log.txt 200904_AGM_trustees_agenda.xml 20090517_trustees_meeting_log.txt 200905_trustees_agenda.xml 20090614_trustees_meeting_log.txt 200906_trustees_agenda.xml 20090719_trustees_meeting_log.txt 200907_trustees_agenda.xml 22Feb2009_trustees_meeting_log.txt 22Mar2009_trustees_meeting_log.txt Annual_General_Meeting_Agenda_April_2009.xml PresidentsReport.xml Trustee_Agenda_February_2009.xml Trustee_Agenda_January_2009.xml Trustee_Agenda_July_2009.xml Trustee_Agenda_June_2009.xml Trustee_Agenda_March_2009.xml Tr ustee_Agenda_May_ 2009.xml trustees_meeting_log_2009july19.txt trustees_meeting_log_2009june14.txt trustees_meeting_log_2009may17.txt
@ 2009-10-22 3:11 Robin H. Johnson (robbat2)
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(01/11/2009 01:00:57 PM) ***NeddySeagoon calls the meeting to order
(01/11/2009 01:01:09 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam,
(01/11/2009 01:01:45 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, can you call tsunam please
(01/11/2009 01:01:53 PM) fmccor: Yes
(01/11/2009 01:01:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: thanks
(01/11/2009 01:03:08 PM) fmccor: On his way
(01/11/2009 01:03:13 PM) NeddySeagoon: ta
(01/11/2009 01:04:00 PM) fmccor: He forgot it was Sunday. :)
(01/11/2009 01:04:22 PM) NeddySeagoon: It must be the beer :)
(01/11/2009 01:04:28 PM) quantumsummers|c: what day did he think it was?
(01/11/2009 01:04:29 PM) fmccor: :)
(01/11/2009 01:04:41 PM) fmccor: That he didn't say.
(01/11/2009 01:05:14 PM) tsunam: some day other then sunday :-P
(01/11/2009 01:05:29 PM) quantumsummers|c: hi tsunam!
(01/11/2009 01:05:31 PM) NeddySeagoon: Welcome tsunam
(01/11/2009 01:05:46 PM) NeddySeagoon: Now we are quorate, we can start. Item 2
(01/11/2009 01:05:49 PM) NeddySeagoon: Actions From the Last Meeting
(01/11/2009 01:05:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: Gentoo Foundation Banking - tsunam
(01/11/2009 01:06:28 PM) tsunam: I contacted the irs again, to get the proper ident form sent to me. I've yet to recieve it so that the bank account can be completed
(01/11/2009 01:07:06 PM) NeddySeagoon: next .. Certified Public Accountant - quantumsummers
(01/11/2009 01:07:55 PM) quantumsummers|c: ok, so we need as complete a financial history as possible
(01/11/2009 01:07:59 PM) tsunam: yep
(01/11/2009 01:08:01 PM) tsunam: working on it
(01/11/2009 01:08:04 PM) quantumsummers|c: thanks
(01/11/2009 01:08:25 PM) quantumsummers|c: we can start with the recent stuff first so we can get the taxes taken care of for 08
(01/11/2009 01:08:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, care to give us a completion date ?
(01/11/2009 01:08:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, when do we have to file for '08 ?
(01/11/2009 01:09:19 PM) quantumsummers|c: also, I have received some comments from entities interested in seeing gentoo with 501c3 status with the irs
(01/11/2009 01:09:32 PM) quantumsummers|c: also willing to assist with the cost on that
(01/11/2009 01:09:56 PM) quantumsummers|c: would be a really good idea to get that going & set up this year, it takes about 9 monthys
(01/11/2009 01:09:59 PM) quantumsummers|c: *months
(01/11/2009 01:09:59 PM) tsunam: hmm, they've even further restricted the log history downloading due to lack of bank account =|
(01/11/2009 01:10:14 PM) quantumsummers|c: who, paypal?
(01/11/2009 01:10:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers|c, can you share those on the alias please, it may not be approprate to air it in public yet
(01/11/2009 01:10:27 PM) quantumsummers|c: sure can
(01/11/2009 01:10:47 PM) quantumsummers|c: it would help gentoo foundation grow to have 501c3
(01/11/2009 01:10:51 PM) fmccor: Is there any way at all to get the IRS to move on this? It's just a piece of paper and everyone has all the information.
(01/11/2009 01:11:19 PM) fmccor: (I mean form for the bank account. Not having one restricts us.)
(01/11/2009 01:11:23 PM) tsunam: fmccor: wish there was but I don't think there is
(01/11/2009 01:11:47 PM) fmccor: Do they say what the hold-up is?
(01/11/2009 01:12:13 PM) fmccor: They must say something when we ask.
(01/11/2009 01:12:17 PM) tsunam: I requested the form and they said they would send it
(01/11/2009 01:12:26 PM) quantumsummers|c: can they fax the form?
(01/11/2009 01:13:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, just need to nag, so the get fed up with calls/emails
(01/11/2009 01:14:10 PM) quantumsummers|c: to continue with the cpa topic, it might be helpful to have tsunam on a conference call with the cpa sometime before the end of the month
(01/11/2009 01:14:14 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers|c: no they can't
(01/11/2009 01:14:31 PM) quantumsummers|c: would you be able to be on a call tsunam?
(01/11/2009 01:14:36 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers|c: sure
(01/11/2009 01:14:40 PM) quantumsummers|c: I can arrange it of course
(01/11/2009 01:14:55 PM) quantumsummers|c: ok, I will email around the info
(01/11/2009 01:15:22 PM) quantumsummers|c: might just be easier to have you ( tsunam) explain the situation to her
(01/11/2009 01:15:22 PM) NeddySeagoon: That sounds good - there could be some progress even before the IRS puts the paperwork in the post
(01/11/2009 01:15:23 PM) fmccor: Maybe your CPA has a magic way in to the IRS. :)
(01/11/2009 01:15:28 PM) quantumsummers|c: perhaps
(01/11/2009 01:15:41 PM) quantumsummers|c: she is rahter nice-no-nonsense
(01/11/2009 01:15:43 PM) NeddySeagoon: What is the deadline for us to make our filing for 2008 ?
(01/11/2009 01:15:46 PM) quantumsummers|c: *rather
(01/11/2009 01:16:02 PM) quantumsummers|c: april 15 I think, unless we file for an extension
(01/11/2009 01:16:06 PM) tsunam: *nods*
(01/11/2009 01:16:08 PM) quantumsummers|c: which is 6 months
(01/11/2009 01:16:11 PM) tsunam: its same as personal
(01/11/2009 01:16:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: hehe ... here its 31 Jan
(01/11/2009 01:16:25 PM) fmccor: Er, 4 months
(01/11/2009 01:16:27 PM) quantumsummers|c: the extension must be postmarked april 15
(01/11/2009 01:16:38 PM) quantumsummers|c: the extension is 6 months
(01/11/2009 01:16:53 PM) fmccor: OH. I misread
(01/11/2009 01:17:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: we should make that but we don't want to go right to the wire
(01/11/2009 01:17:01 PM) quantumsummers|c: I wasn't clear
(01/11/2009 01:17:21 PM) quantumsummers|c: yes, I am trying to get everything together by Feb 1
(01/11/2009 01:17:35 PM) quantumsummers|c: this CPA does my stuff too
(01/11/2009 01:17:55 PM) quantumsummers|c: btwn my wife & I we have 4 companies
(01/11/2009 01:18:03 PM) NeddySeagoon: we need our financials up to date this month then ?
(01/11/2009 01:18:16 PM) quantumsummers|c: well, as much as possible
(01/11/2009 01:18:35 PM) quantumsummers|c: she has said that she can assist us with getting things in order
(01/11/2009 01:19:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, do you have all the information you need from PayPal ?
(01/11/2009 01:19:06 PM) quantumsummers|c: like I said, if we can get all of 2008 in, that will be a really good start
(01/11/2009 01:19:31 PM) quantumsummers|c: long term is to have entire financial history'
(01/11/2009 01:19:49 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers|c, we need that for ourselves
(01/11/2009 01:19:54 PM) quantumsummers|c: of course
(01/11/2009 01:19:56 PM) tsunam: NeddySeagoon: from paypal for?
(01/11/2009 01:20:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, to construct our income history
(01/11/2009 01:20:30 PM) tsunam: NeddySeagoon: yeah I can, but its become much more of a pain in the arse
(01/11/2009 01:20:50 PM) quantumsummers|c: I & the cpa can help tsunam
(01/11/2009 01:21:00 PM) quantumsummers|c: err, the CPA & I
(01/11/2009 01:21:20 PM) ***quantumsummers|c kicks grammar police inside his head
(01/11/2009 01:21:21 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, it may be a topic for discussion with the CPA, perhaps they have some leverage
(01/11/2009 01:21:35 PM) tsunam: NeddySeagoon: with paypal? doubtful
(01/11/2009 01:21:54 PM) quantumsummers|c: they have people whose job is to call the irs
(01/11/2009 01:21:57 PM) tsunam: I'll see if I can contact them to get a full history download sent to me though
(01/11/2009 01:22:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, if you need some help sorting out the mess, once you have the data, I'll help
(01/11/2009 01:22:53 PM) tsunam: NeddySeagoon: I have the data...can't get it into a format that makes it easy for others to help with
(01/11/2009 01:23:02 PM) quantumsummers|c: what is the format?
(01/11/2009 01:23:05 PM) tsunam: because its stuck in paypal's account history only
(01/11/2009 01:23:10 PM) tsunam: which I can't download now
(01/11/2009 01:23:14 PM) quantumsummers|c: html or something?
(01/11/2009 01:23:14 PM) tsunam: since they've restricted it further
(01/11/2009 01:23:38 PM) tsunam: I've just really grown to hate paypal honestly :(
(01/11/2009 01:23:41 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, email me the file(s) let me have a look
(01/11/2009 01:23:53 PM) quantumsummers|c: cc me too please
(01/11/2009 01:24:10 PM) tsunam: I'm looking at the html
(01/11/2009 01:24:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, you should have my public key
(01/11/2009 01:24:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok ... lets move on
(01/11/2009 01:24:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: Fix name and address on IPR/trademark documents, 31 Aug 2008 meeting authorised the $200 fees - fmccor
(01/11/2009 01:25:00 PM) fmccor: I believe we're waiting on the PTO (patent & trademark office)
(01/11/2009 01:25:21 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, is it worth poking them ?
(01/11/2009 01:25:21 PM) fmccor: Lawyer is supposed to have that in motion and will bill us when it's done.
(01/11/2009 01:25:45 PM) NeddySeagoon: next ..
(01/11/2009 01:25:48 PM) NeddySeagoon: Send friendly cease and desist emails to copyright infringers spotted on cafepress - quantumsummers
(01/11/2009 01:25:49 PM) fmccor: No, all I could do is poke the lawyer.
(01/11/2009 01:26:03 PM) ***quantumsummers|c tattoos this on his eyelids so he sees it every time he blinks.
(01/11/2009 01:26:04 PM) fragalot is now known as fragalot`
(01/11/2009 01:26:06 PM) fmccor: PTO is no faster than IRS. :)
(01/11/2009 01:26:13 PM) quantumsummers|c: prob slower
(01/11/2009 01:26:15 PM) fragalot` is now known as fragalot
(01/11/2009 01:26:42 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers|c, I believe she estimated about 6 months --- I can go back and look...
(01/11/2009 01:26:43 PM) tsunam: lol
(01/11/2009 01:27:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: lol I'll move this to actions waiting then ... you can surprise us one day
(01/11/2009 01:27:20 PM) quantumsummers|c: I have added the recent infringing entities revealed in emails to trustees to the list
(01/11/2009 01:27:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers|c, thanks
(01/11/2009 01:27:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda Item 2 Open Bugs Assigned to Trustees
(01/11/2009 01:28:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: 217511 The Gentoo Store is Out of Date - musikc
(01/11/2009 01:28:02 PM) quantumsummers|c: before this gets going
(01/11/2009 01:28:08 PM) quantumsummers|c: sorry
(01/11/2009 01:28:14 PM) fmccor: NeddySeagoon, I'll check status in a month if we haven't heard by then.
(01/11/2009 01:28:46 PM) quantumsummers|c: I was wondering if I should add the trustees to the CC on this Bug 254249
(01/11/2009 01:28:48 PM) Willikins: quantumsummers|c: https://bugs.gentoo.org/254249 "Tracking a conversation & doc regarding website redesign"; Gentoo Linux, Unspecified; NEW; quantumsummers@g.o:pr@g.o
(01/11/2009 01:29:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: musikc added some things but we need a long term maintainer, thats why this action is still open
(01/11/2009 01:29:26 PM) quantumsummers|c: comprookie2000 has expressed some interest in helping with the store
(01/11/2009 01:29:48 PM) quantumsummers|c: via email to trustees@
(01/11/2009 01:30:10 PM) quantumsummers|c: might be nice to give musikc some extra help
(01/11/2009 01:30:23 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers|c, He's here ---- comprookie2000 ^^^^^
(01/11/2009 01:30:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: yep ... pass the info to musikc. She can discuss with comprookie2000 directly
(01/11/2009 01:30:58 PM) quantumsummers|c: very well
(01/11/2009 01:32:17 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers|c: you should have a mail from me, re: financials I have had in csv format
(01/11/2009 01:32:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers|c, on your bug, AllenJB posted a test site ... I'm not sure if its mentioned there. There is a forums thread about it
(01/11/2009 01:32:34 PM) quantumsummers|c: excellent tsunam, thanks
(01/11/2009 01:33:11 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers|c: let me know if you can't unencrypt the file though
(01/11/2009 01:33:12 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers|c by all means add trustees@ as a cc, we do have an interest after all
(01/11/2009 01:33:37 PM) quantumsummers|c: NeddySeagoon: roger that good buddy
(01/11/2009 01:34:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: next bug ... 224689 Request for Reimbusement for legal fees to lawyer
(01/11/2009 01:34:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: can that be closed ?
(01/11/2009 01:34:13 PM) fmccor: Isn't this done?
(01/11/2009 01:34:35 PM) tsunam: *looks*
(01/11/2009 01:34:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, it seems he didn't bill us for some work
(01/11/2009 01:34:55 PM) tsunam: no no sadly not :( I can't send more then 500 bucks a month..so
(01/11/2009 01:35:06 PM) fmccor: No, he billed us for everything. He didn't bill us for fixing a mistake he made.
(01/11/2009 01:35:23 PM) NeddySeagoon: so it stays open ?
(01/11/2009 01:35:30 PM) tsunam: so in otherwords, I've not paid myself back yet
(01/11/2009 01:35:35 PM) tsunam: so yes it needs to stay open
(01/11/2009 01:35:44 PM) tsunam: again issues with paypal limited access :(
(01/11/2009 01:35:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, pay yourself in two installments then
(01/11/2009 01:36:14 PM) quantumsummers|c: we have __got__ to get a bank account
(01/11/2009 01:36:28 PM) fmccor: ++ that
(01/11/2009 01:36:30 PM) antarus: er, we don't have a bank account yet? :)
(01/11/2009 01:36:33 PM) tsunam: I could do that, If I reacall I have to add a credit card etc to associate my address with myself which isn't a big deal for me
(01/11/2009 01:36:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, its something to think about
(01/11/2009 01:37:12 PM) tsunam: antarus: nope...not yet sadly.. irs fun dealing with for getting our EIN form...if we didnt "lose" that we'd of had it long ago
(01/11/2009 01:37:22 PM) quantumsummers|c: antarus: the irs is slowing things down, so if you know someone ...
(01/11/2009 01:37:34 PM) NeddySeagoon: 234705 Document of being an active developer ... council moved this to us
(01/11/2009 01:37:44 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers|c, Eventually we might open a personal account reserved for gentoo use or something. These banks + IRS are truly ridiculous.
(01/11/2009 01:37:45 PM) quantumsummers|c: have google call the irs for us
(01/11/2009 01:38:13 PM) tsunam: lol
(01/11/2009 01:38:21 PM) quantumsummers|c: I caqn fly down to New Mexico or something
(01/11/2009 01:38:34 PM) quantumsummers|c: can Mr. Chew assist at all in this?
(01/11/2009 01:38:35 PM) ***NeddySeagoon bangs his gavel
(01/11/2009 01:38:40 PM) NeddySeagoon: 234705 Document of being an active developer ... council moved this to us
(01/11/2009 01:39:02 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers|c: its really a matter of just getting the ein official form in my hands so we can fax that all off to the bank
(01/11/2009 01:39:10 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers|c, No, he gave us the same number into the IRS that tsunam already had, and he's not a tax attorney.
(01/11/2009 01:39:21 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers|c, This is really something for a CPA
(01/11/2009 01:39:26 PM) tsunam: its really just the form is needed
(01/11/2009 01:39:28 PM) tsunam: its that simmple
(01/11/2009 01:39:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'm happy that the foundation should do this for foundation members ...
(01/11/2009 01:39:40 PM) antarus: google does owe gentoo 2500$ :)
(01/11/2009 01:39:42 PM) tsunam: and I had to change the mailing address for the foundation with the IRS as well
(01/11/2009 01:39:46 PM) tsunam: if you all recall
(01/11/2009 01:39:53 PM) fmccor: Yes.
(01/11/2009 01:40:04 PM) tsunam: because it was at Daniels old address as well
(01/11/2009 01:40:14 PM) tsunam: that took ~2 months for the government to change
(01/11/2009 01:40:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: yes, I remember
(01/11/2009 01:40:28 PM) fmccor: And he declined to remain the agent.
fmccor fmccor|work
(01/11/2009 01:41:14 PM) quantumsummers|c: fmccor daniel did?
(01/11/2009 01:42:13 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers|c, Long ago I invited him to remain our agent, but he declined.
(01/11/2009 01:42:18 PM) quantumsummers|c: I see
(01/11/2009 01:42:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok, next bug
(01/11/2009 01:42:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: 234705 Document of being an active developer ... council moved this to us
(01/11/2009 01:42:45 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'm happy that the foundation should do this for foundation members ...
(01/11/2009 01:42:53 PM) quantumsummers|c: its very good
(01/11/2009 01:43:32 PM) quantumsummers|c: the certificate is a nice idea
(01/11/2009 01:43:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: Its akin to a reference for a job
(01/11/2009 01:43:38 PM) ***quantumsummers|c is looking at it now
(01/11/2009 01:43:52 PM) quantumsummers|c: http://dev.gentoo.org/~araujo/gcert1.pdf if anyone is interested
(01/11/2009 01:44:17 PM) NeddySeagoon: It could be signed by one of the trustees
(01/11/2009 01:44:52 PM) quantumsummers|c: yes
(01/11/2009 01:45:07 PM) quantumsummers|c: one could easily do a digital sig with a tablet
(01/11/2009 01:45:15 PM) quantumsummers|c: that6 sould be sufficient
(01/11/2009 01:45:52 PM) quantumsummers|c: if really necessary a pgp sig could be placed in fine print too (signing the file)
(01/11/2009 01:45:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: Would most employers be able to verify a digital signature ?
(01/11/2009 01:46:08 PM) quantumsummers|c: I just meant a graphic
(01/11/2009 01:46:17 PM) NeddySeagoon: Ah, ok
(01/11/2009 01:46:20 PM) antarus: I imagine most employers would rather contact Gentoo
(01/11/2009 01:46:25 PM) quantumsummers|c: indeed
(01/11/2009 01:46:25 PM) antarus: than verify some crazy sig
(01/11/2009 01:46:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: antarus, true
(01/11/2009 01:47:12 PM) NeddySeagoon: I don't have a problem with signing and posting a paper document
(01/11/2009 01:47:43 PM) quantumsummers|c: pres or secretary should sign
(01/11/2009 01:47:46 PM) quantumsummers|c: :)
(01/11/2009 01:47:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: heh ok
(01/11/2009 01:48:21 PM) quantumsummers|c: do we sign with our nicks>?
(01/11/2009 01:48:37 PM) quantumsummers|c: prob not a bad thing if so
(01/11/2009 01:48:41 PM) fmccor: Name+nick I would think
(01/11/2009 01:48:47 PM) quantumsummers|c: very nice
(01/11/2009 01:48:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: What do we do with this bug, adopt the cert as is and sign in ink ?
(01/11/2009 01:49:03 PM) NeddySeagoon: real name and nick
(01/11/2009 01:49:16 PM) quantumsummers|c: can use a wacom tablet or similar to produce sig image
(01/11/2009 01:49:23 PM) quantumsummers|c: paste it in
(01/11/2009 01:49:44 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers|c, I would rather use a real pen, with ink
(01/11/2009 01:49:51 PM) ***quantumsummers|c doesn't like the font on the cert, but ...
(01/11/2009 01:49:58 PM) quantumsummers|c: ok NeddySeagoon, sounds good
(01/11/2009 01:50:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: so whats the comment on the bug from today ?
(01/11/2009 01:50:30 PM) quantumsummers|c: so that would incur a postage fee, sending it to Scotland & then to whomever
(01/11/2009 01:50:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers|c, print it here, sign and post ... its would not be a lot
(01/11/2009 01:51:09 PM) quantumsummers|c: ok :)
(01/11/2009 01:51:33 PM) quantumsummers|c: would that be automatic or on a per request basis
(01/11/2009 01:51:46 PM) quantumsummers|c: every dev gets one, or only those who ask>
(01/11/2009 01:51:47 PM) quantumsummers|c: ?
(01/11/2009 01:52:03 PM) fmccor: Ask, surely.
(01/11/2009 01:52:06 PM) quantumsummers|c: kk
(01/11/2009 01:52:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: Only those that ask and provide verifiable evidence for checking ... like ask the project leads
(01/11/2009 01:53:01 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'll write something on the bug
(01/11/2009 01:53:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: next
(01/11/2009 01:53:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: 45227 budget limit for infra repairs
(01/11/2009 01:53:30 PM) NeddySeagoon: We don't want another Osprey
(01/11/2009 01:53:49 PM) NeddySeagoon: did robbat2 make a proposal ?
(01/11/2009 01:54:12 PM) quantumsummers|c: not that I have heard about, I did talk to him about this & he said he would work on it
(01/11/2009 01:54:25 PM) quantumsummers|c: from what I gather, there are 2 machines needed
(01/11/2009 01:54:30 PM) fmccor: I thought he was awaiting financial information from us, which requires a bank accound because Grant is sitting on quite a lot of our money.
(01/11/2009 01:54:43 PM) NeddySeagoon: This bug is for maintainance, not new hardware
(01/11/2009 01:55:00 PM) quantumsummers|c: one for the git based services & another for tree signing
(01/11/2009 01:55:11 PM) quantumsummers|c: big & small respectively
(01/11/2009 01:55:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: comes back to a bank account again ...
(01/11/2009 01:55:34 PM) NeddySeagoon: next bug
(01/11/2009 01:55:48 PM) NeddySeagoon: Gentoo Store - Add Case stickers, badges
(01/11/2009 01:56:03 PM) quantumsummers|c: ++
(01/11/2009 01:56:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: a request in the email
(01/11/2009 01:56:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: I suppose it should go on the existing store bug
(01/11/2009 01:57:06 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda item 4 Treasurers Report for FY ending 30 June 2008
(01/11/2009 01:57:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, any progress?
(01/11/2009 01:58:15 PM) tsunam: not currently
(01/11/2009 01:58:22 PM) tsunam: I need to fix the 4th quarter as well
(01/11/2009 01:58:42 PM) tsunam: and without downloading the quarterly possibility, it'll be slow going
(01/11/2009 01:58:44 PM) NeddySeagoon: yeah
(01/11/2009 01:59:15 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda item 5 Foundation Knowledge Management Needs - quantumsummers keep it brief please
(01/11/2009 01:59:31 PM) quantumsummers|c: ok :) I have a few simple apps that I will setup for us to use while I work this out with infra, all login only via ssl. Main app is for maintaining the membership list easily. I will have that up this week.
(01/11/2009 02:00:00 PM) quantumsummers|c: once infra gives go-ahead we can hook into ldap
(01/11/2009 02:00:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok ... I think we have 203 members
(01/11/2009 02:00:35 PM) quantumsummers|c: will also have a little app to upload things like the financial data for safe keeping
(01/11/2009 02:01:04 PM) tsunam: yeah as soon as I get it the EIN certificate will be scanned and digitized
(01/11/2009 02:01:04 PM) quantumsummers|c: hooking into ldap so devs can keep their own stuff updated
(01/11/2009 02:01:08 PM) tsunam: for vault keeping on that
(01/11/2009 02:01:23 PM) quantumsummers|c: do we have a safe deposit box for things like this?
(01/11/2009 02:01:26 PM) NeddySeagoon: good plan tsunam
(01/11/2009 02:01:47 PM) NeddySeagoon: should that be with Wayn Chew ?
(01/11/2009 02:02:00 PM) tsunam: the physical?
(01/11/2009 02:02:03 PM) fmccor: Not necessarily.
(01/11/2009 02:02:04 PM) quantumsummers|c: yes
(01/11/2009 02:02:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, yes
(01/11/2009 02:02:20 PM) quantumsummers|c: doesn't have to be with Mr. Chew
(01/11/2009 02:02:35 PM) quantumsummers|c: our cpa may be able to assist with this
(01/11/2009 02:02:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: its a detial, lets move on
(01/11/2009 02:02:56 PM) NeddySeagoon: We can skip Item 6 Actions From Previous Meetings on hold nothing has changed
(01/11/2009 02:03:07 PM) fmccor: All that needs to be with Wayne Chew is information available to the public for examination.
(01/11/2009 02:03:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, ok
(01/11/2009 02:03:27 PM) fmccor: Well, the e.V. Jan meeting is actually Feb/March
(01/11/2009 02:03:42 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda Item 7 Membership Applications - Developers ...
(01/11/2009 02:03:44 PM) quantumsummers|c: seems like thta keeps getting pushed
(01/11/2009 02:03:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: * coldwind
(01/11/2009 02:03:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: * darkside
(01/11/2009 02:03:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: * tanderson
(01/11/2009 02:04:05 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers|c, Out of our hands --- ask dertobi123
(01/11/2009 02:04:09 PM) quantumsummers|c: yes
(01/11/2009 02:04:11 PM) fmccor: I vote yes for all.
(01/11/2009 02:04:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: I vote yes to all
(01/11/2009 02:04:40 PM) quantumsummers|c: tsunam: ?
(01/11/2009 02:04:42 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, ??
(01/11/2009 02:04:43 PM) tsunam: yep
(01/11/2009 02:04:56 PM) quantumsummers|c: tsunam: how do you vote?
(01/11/2009 02:04:58 PM) NeddySeagoon: Carried - welcome guys
(01/11/2009 02:05:05 PM) tsunam: as in yep,yes...etc
(01/11/2009 02:05:06 PM) quantumsummers|c: recorded
(01/11/2009 02:05:34 PM) NeddySeagoon: Community members ... WEIRDEDOUT held over from last moth
(01/11/2009 02:05:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: month*
(01/11/2009 02:05:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: I've been slacking doing some checks
(01/11/2009 02:06:09 PM) tsunam: well you did give us some details so
(01/11/2009 02:06:25 PM) fmccor: This one's dicey, I gather. My vote is yes, because I think he is exactly the kind of user we want as a member.
(01/11/2009 02:06:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: I suggest carry forward but I would not vote against as I don't know enough
(01/11/2009 02:07:04 PM) fmccor: Others disagree. I'd still ask him to join us in that case so we can talk to him.
(01/11/2009 02:07:11 PM) tsunam: k
(01/11/2009 02:07:13 PM) NeddySeagoon: ping comprookie2000
(01/11/2009 02:07:14 PM) tsunam: that'd be best
(01/11/2009 02:07:20 PM) antarus: I would wonder why he is not at this meeting, yeah ;)
(01/11/2009 02:07:24 PM) fmccor: His interview with comprookie2000 is very good.
(01/11/2009 02:07:31 PM) tanderson: thanks everyone
(01/11/2009 02:07:42 PM) fmccor: antarus, Well, being in Australia might influence that. :)
(01/11/2009 02:07:46 PM) ***antarus nods
(01/11/2009 02:07:52 PM) antarus: I figured it was a TZ issue ;)
(01/11/2009 02:08:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, you for holding over too ?
(01/11/2009 02:08:25 PM) tsunam: yes i am
(01/11/2009 02:08:31 PM) antarus: hrm
(01/11/2009 02:08:33 PM) fmccor: antarus, He's a family man in Australia, and this is a horrible time for him.
(01/11/2009 02:08:42 PM) antarus: what does the doc say about rejecting *goes to read*
(01/11/2009 02:08:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: antarus, hes not rejected
(01/11/2009 02:09:28 PM) antarus: I am aware of that
(01/11/2009 02:09:48 PM) fmccor: I was meaning to try to chase him down, but didn't get to it.
(01/11/2009 02:10:55 PM) NeddySeagoon: comprookie2000, has worked with him in the past, if he shows up, we can ask him
(01/11/2009 02:11:31 PM) NeddySeagoon: Item 8 Trustee Elections 2009
(01/11/2009 02:11:40 PM) antarus: putting it on the ballot for every meeting to take no action is not useful; I'd rather reject unclear canidates with some sort of clear feedback on why and they can make changes and apply again(as there appears to be no limitations on applications)
(01/11/2009 02:12:05 PM) antarus: that may be overly harsh for some applicats though ;)
(01/11/2009 02:12:16 PM) ***Philantrop agrees with antarus
(01/11/2009 02:12:45 PM) fmccor: antarus, I don't know if this one knows we want more information or not, actually.
(01/11/2009 02:12:58 PM) antarus: fmccor: that is my concern
(01/11/2009 02:12:58 PM) NeddySeagoon: antarus, In this case, its overly harsh. Its the trustees that have been slacking, not the candiate.
(01/11/2009 02:13:04 PM) antarus: NeddySeagoon: ok ;)
(01/11/2009 02:13:15 PM) quantumsummers|c: I sent him an email last meeting stating that we wanted more info
(01/11/2009 02:13:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: antarus, the candidate provided information we we have failed to check in its entireity.
(01/11/2009 02:13:56 PM) fmccor: Please send another, CC trustees.
(01/11/2009 02:14:14 PM) antarus: yep, I'm with you ;)
(01/11/2009 02:14:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: So - held over for trustee slacking
(01/11/2009 02:14:41 PM) antarus: I agree with a deferral in that case ;)
(01/11/2009 02:14:52 PM) quantumsummers|c: sent
(01/11/2009 02:14:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: Item 8 Trustee Elections 2009
(01/11/2009 02:16:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: There will be two seats for reelection this year, our current vacancy and dmwaters. Nominations should open early Feb and voting early March
(01/11/2009 02:16:26 PM) NeddySeagoon: We need an election team
(01/11/2009 02:16:40 PM) quantumsummers|c: nominations run the month of Feb & voting the month of Mar?
(01/11/2009 02:16:49 PM) NeddySeagoon: yes
(01/11/2009 02:16:51 PM) antarus: we could use the typical team, assuming none of them are running
(01/11/2009 02:17:03 PM) jmbsvicetto: antarus: I'm not ;)
(01/11/2009 02:17:11 PM) quantumsummers|c: hi jmbsvicetto!
(01/11/2009 02:17:11 PM) antarus: rane, fox2mike, myself, and jmbsvicetto
(01/11/2009 02:17:11 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto was going to set up an elections project but I don't know if that happened
(01/11/2009 02:17:26 PM) antarus: NeddySeagoon: we basically have an unofficial one at this point ;)
(01/11/2009 02:17:27 PM) jmbsvicetto: running, but am interested in running another election
(01/11/2009 02:17:32 PM) jmbsvicetto: Hi quantumsummers|c
(01/11/2009 02:17:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: antarus, is that an offer ? if so sccepted
(01/11/2009 02:17:58 PM) jmbsvicetto: antarus: yeah, but I've been meaning to send a mail announcing the team ;)
(01/11/2009 02:18:37 PM) jmbsvicetto: antarus: I was also going to create a page with some information about how an election is run and technical details
(01/11/2009 02:18:54 PM) ***antarus certainly won't stop you ;p
(01/11/2009 02:18:56 PM) jmbsvicetto: NeddySeagoon: one important question - are we going to have non-dev members in the foundation for this election?
(01/11/2009 02:19:12 PM) quantumsummers|c: yes
(01/11/2009 02:19:14 PM) fmccor: jmbsvicetto, We can.
(01/11/2009 02:19:22 PM) quantumsummers|c: so far comprookie2000, & Philantrop
(01/11/2009 02:19:31 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto, yes ... mostly ex-devs ... only comprookie2000 is a never been dev as far as I know
(01/11/2009 02:19:36 PM) jmbsvicetto: I know we can, but the point is whether we already have them for this election
(01/11/2009 02:19:41 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers|c, plus lots of ex-developers perhaps.
(01/11/2009 02:19:50 PM) quantumsummers|c: true
(01/11/2009 02:20:29 PM) fmccor: jmbsvicetto, We always have, I think. But yes (any ex-developer/member)
(01/11/2009 02:20:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto, you can use the same method as you used for ex devs last year
(01/11/2009 02:20:39 PM) jmbsvicetto: ok, in that case I suggest we keep using votify/countify for this election and as before ask those members to send a gpg signed email to all election officials
(01/11/2009 02:20:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers|c, you have the keys
(01/11/2009 02:21:02 PM) quantumsummers|c: does the elections team have an alias?
(01/11/2009 02:21:03 PM) fmccor: Sounds good.
(01/11/2009 02:21:09 PM) quantumsummers|c: email alias that is
(01/11/2009 02:21:09 PM) antarus: quantumsummers|c: we don't even have a team ;)
(01/11/2009 02:21:11 PM) jmbsvicetto: The foundation needs to solve the issue of the gpg keys for ex-devs
(01/11/2009 02:21:36 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers|c: I'm going to ask robbat2 to create elections@ g dot o
(01/11/2009 02:21:43 PM) quantumsummers|c: its difficult for those that do not respond or have non-working emails jmbsvicetto
(01/11/2009 02:21:50 PM) jmbsvicetto: antarus: want to be in it? rane?
(01/11/2009 02:21:58 PM) antarus: jmbsvicetto: I am making it right now
(01/11/2009 02:22:04 PM) jmbsvicetto: antarus: ok, thanks
(01/11/2009 02:22:20 PM) antarus: aww I need robbat2 foo
(01/11/2009 02:22:23 PM) antarus: stupid gentoo
(01/11/2009 02:22:25 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers|c: right, but aren't gpg keys mandatory?
(01/11/2009 02:22:29 PM) jmbsvicetto: HEHE
(01/11/2009 02:22:32 PM) quantumsummers|c: yes
(01/11/2009 02:22:34 PM) jmbsvicetto: sorry, caps
(01/11/2009 02:22:52 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers|c: then members need to solve any email issues
(01/11/2009 02:23:04 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers|c: And these days there's "tons" of free mail providers
(01/11/2009 02:23:08 PM) quantumsummers|c: its ok, I will make the list availble next week to the trustees & any dev that needs access
(01/11/2009 02:23:20 PM) quantumsummers|c: we can update whomever
(01/11/2009 02:23:25 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers|c, If they don't respond and the email doesn't work, it's fair to believe they are going inactive. They should all be on gentoo-nfp.
(01/11/2009 02:23:27 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers|c: I'll ping you about it
fmccor fmccor|work
(01/11/2009 02:23:37 PM) quantumsummers|c: ok fmccor
(01/11/2009 02:23:39 PM) quantumsummers|c: ok jmbsvicetto
(01/11/2009 02:23:45 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers|c: Oh, you mean expired addresses? I see.
(01/11/2009 02:23:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto, the members list for the election closes at the end of this meeting
(01/11/2009 02:24:02 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers|c, (If you need it, I have an email for jakub, but so do you because it's on his bug. :) )
(01/11/2009 02:24:07 PM) jmbsvicetto: You'll have to determine how you'll "confirm" their identity
(01/11/2009 02:24:28 PM) quantumsummers|c: it would be nice to have a gpg key trail
(01/11/2009 02:24:29 PM) jmbsvicetto: We (election team) had to deal with this last year. Now that the foundation is working, we're "pleased" to drop it to you ;)
(01/11/2009 02:24:45 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto, thank you
(01/11/2009 02:24:52 PM) jmbsvicetto: *g*
(01/11/2009 02:25:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto, are the timescales ok ?
(01/11/2009 02:25:59 PM) jmbsvicetto: It's up to you. We can do 1 week, 2 weeks or 1 month, if you prefer
(01/11/2009 02:26:06 PM) quantumsummers|c: those are all of Feb for nominations & all of March for voting?
(01/11/2009 02:26:20 PM) jmbsvicetto: Given recent elections, I don't know if we should keep the 1 month, but it's up to the trustees
(01/11/2009 02:26:35 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers|c: That's what I understood
(01/11/2009 02:26:41 PM) quantumsummers|c: k
(01/11/2009 02:26:42 PM) antarus: 254584 for the alias
(01/11/2009 02:26:44 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto, Feb for nominations, March for votes, results on 29 March ... 4 weeks each
(01/11/2009 02:27:08 PM) jmbsvicetto: NeddySeagoon: In that case, please grant us 1 day between nominations and voting and 1 or 2 days to publish results
(01/11/2009 02:27:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: thats as last year
(01/11/2009 02:27:29 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto ok
(01/11/2009 02:27:56 PM) quantumsummers|c: antarus: I can help write a webapp for voting, should be simple enough
(01/11/2009 02:27:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: take office on 31 March ...
(01/11/2009 02:28:10 PM) antarus: quantumsummers|c: that was my thought ;)
(01/11/2009 02:28:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers|c, votes have to be verified with keys
(01/11/2009 02:28:35 PM) quantumsummers|c: sure
(01/11/2009 02:28:51 PM) quantumsummers|c: we can discuss the constraints
(01/11/2009 02:28:59 PM) jmbsvicetto: so you want nominations from Feb 1 (Sunday) to 28 Feb (Sat) and voting from Mar 2 (Monday) to Mar 29 (Sunday)?
(01/11/2009 02:29:07 PM) antarus: a small design doc should not take long
(01/11/2009 02:29:22 PM) NeddySeagoon: yes please jmbsvicetto
(01/11/2009 02:29:26 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, tsunam ?
(01/11/2009 02:29:35 PM) jmbsvicetto: My suggestion is for us to look at devotee (debian)
(01/11/2009 02:29:37 PM) fmccor: Yes.
(01/11/2009 02:29:46 PM) tsunam: all seems fine with me
(01/11/2009 02:29:57 PM) jmbsvicetto: I think it might be better to use an already working solution than starting from scratch
(01/11/2009 02:29:58 PM) NeddySeagoon: thank you
(01/11/2009 02:30:22 PM) jmbsvicetto: but I'll leave that for the elections project
(01/11/2009 02:30:28 PM) NeddySeagoon: The details can be worked out later
(01/11/2009 02:31:01 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda item 9 Does Gentoo use the Quicktime Penguin logo
(01/11/2009 02:31:07 PM) quantumsummers|c: yes it does
(01/11/2009 02:31:12 PM) NeddySeagoon: we have had an email about that
(01/11/2009 02:31:23 PM) quantumsummers|c: looked into this, appears to be the same graphic
(01/11/2009 02:31:48 PM) quantumsummers|c: whether or not this matters I am uncertain
(01/11/2009 02:31:58 PM) NeddySeagoon: Do we know what Apple registered ?
(01/11/2009 02:32:09 PM) quantumsummers|c: its a slightly modified version
(01/11/2009 02:32:23 PM) quantumsummers|c: NeddySeagoon: not exactly
(01/11/2009 02:33:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: we need to look into that, since if its Apples registered mark, we need to get permission or stop using it
(01/11/2009 02:34:18 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'm unhappy about using something similar enough to cause confustion
(01/11/2009 02:34:25 PM) antarus: it is not a good place to be
(01/11/2009 02:34:32 PM) antarus: so there are two problems no?
(01/11/2009 02:34:35 PM) antarus: one is trademark
(01/11/2009 02:34:38 PM) antarus: the other is copyright
(01/11/2009 02:34:39 PM) quantumsummers|c: we can switch that graphic rather easily
(01/11/2009 02:35:03 PM) NeddySeagoon: antarus, yes. We should just change our graphic
(01/11/2009 02:35:09 PM) ***antarus agrees
(01/11/2009 02:35:22 PM) quantumsummers|c: is that an infra thing?
(01/11/2009 02:35:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: Who is that a bug for ... documentation ?
(01/11/2009 02:36:11 PM) antarus: do we have a replacement graphic?
(01/11/2009 02:36:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: I don't know but I doubt it
(01/11/2009 02:36:48 PM) quantumsummers|c: I suggest a Michael Phelps-like penguin :)
(01/11/2009 02:38:12 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, can you raise a bug that points out the possible legal implications of the confusion pleas
(01/11/2009 02:38:53 PM) fmccor: NeddySeagoon, Yes.
(01/11/2009 02:38:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: probably on docs, cc us so we can track progress
(01/11/2009 02:39:31 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda item 10 Date of Next Meeting - Sunday 15 February 2009 1900 UTC
(01/11/2009 02:39:40 PM) fmccor: OK with me.
(01/11/2009 02:39:49 PM) NeddySeagoon: Thats the first Sunday afyer the 2nd Thursday ..
(01/11/2009 02:39:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: after*
(01/11/2009 02:40:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, ^^
(01/11/2009 02:40:05 PM) tsunam: k
(01/11/2009 02:40:13 PM) tsunam: I'll try to set a reminder on my phone
(01/11/2009 02:40:14 PM) jmbsvicetto: about the bug, gentoo-artwork might be a better option - assuming the team still exists
(01/11/2009 02:40:20 PM) tsunam: so I don't have to be called ~-`
(01/11/2009 02:40:28 PM) jmbsvicetto: I don't know if docs or infra care about such things
(01/11/2009 02:40:30 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, hehe
(01/11/2009 02:41:17 PM) NeddySeagoon: Its a legal thing, we have to make someone who can fix it care
(01/11/2009 02:41:34 PM) NeddySeagoon: Item 11 Any other business
(01/11/2009 02:41:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, ?
(01/11/2009 02:41:48 PM) antarus: Google owes Gentoo 2500 dollars
(01/11/2009 02:41:49 PM) fmccor: I had thought so
(01/11/2009 02:41:51 PM) antarus: for last summer
(01/11/2009 02:41:57 PM) antarus: I still haven't submitted the PO
(01/11/2009 02:41:59 PM) antarus: because I suck
(01/11/2009 02:42:23 PM) antarus: can you add an item to the next agenda to make sure that is done by next month?
(01/11/2009 02:42:26 PM) fmccor: NeddySeagoon, I was expecting a bug from armin76 requesting 56 Euro funding to help with sh development.
(01/11/2009 02:43:04 PM) fmccor: But I haven't seen it. Otherwise, no.
(01/11/2009 02:43:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, AoB
(01/11/2009 02:43:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, we can deal with that bug when it happens
(01/11/2009 02:44:58 PM) fmccor: True.
(01/11/2009 02:45:15 PM) NeddySeagoon: I guess, that means nothing from tsunam
(01/11/2009 02:45:18 PM) fmccor: I was just alerting people that such a request is in the works.
(01/11/2009 02:45:30 PM) NeddySeagoon: Item 12 Open floor
(01/11/2009 02:45:34 PM) tsunam: nope
(01/11/2009 02:45:39 PM) tsunam: nothing from me
(01/11/2009 02:45:54 PM) mode (+v mpagano ) by ChanServ
(01/11/2009 02:46:18 PM) NeddySeagoon: I have one thing ... members are +v here, except two that do not have irc accounts
(01/11/2009 02:46:34 PM) NeddySeagoon: any more for any more
(01/11/2009 02:46:41 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers|c: will you be our foundation contact for the election?
(01/11/2009 02:46:58 PM) quantumsummers|c: I certainly can, if the trustees approve
(01/11/2009 02:47:05 PM) quantumsummers|c: jmbsvicetto: ^
(01/11/2009 02:47:07 PM) fmccor: Fine with me.
(01/11/2009 02:47:14 PM) NeddySeagoon: fine with me
(01/11/2009 02:47:26 PM) jmbsvicetto: ok, we can talk later about details then
(01/11/2009 02:47:31 PM) quantumsummers|c: ok
(01/11/2009 02:47:43 PM) ***NeddySeagoon declares the meeting closed
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<title>Gentoo Trustees Monthy Meeting - Sunday, 11 January 2009</title>
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<b>Time and Venue</b>
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<b>Sunday, 11 January 2009 1900 UTC on irc.freenode.net #gentoo-trustees</b>
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<b>Agenda</b>
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<li>Introductions</li>
<li>Actions From the Last Meeting
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<li>Gentoo Foundation Banking - tsunam</li>
<li>Certified Public Accountant - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Fix name and address on IPR/trademark documents, 31 Aug 2008 meeting authorised the $200 fees - fmccor</li>
<li>Send friendly cease and desist emails to copyright infringers spotted on cafepress - quantumsummers</li>
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<li>Open Bugs Assigned to Trustees
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<li>217511 The Gentoo Store is Out of Date - musikc</li>
<li>224689 Request for Reimbusement for legal fees to lawyer</li>
<li>234705 Document of being an active developer</li>
<li>245227 budget limit for infra repairs</li>
<li>253491 Gentoo Store - Add Case stickers, badges</li>
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<li>Treasurers Report for FY ending 30 June 2008</li>
<li>Foundation Knowledge Management Needs - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Actions From Previous Meetings on hold for one or more actions above
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<li>Trustees and Foundation Article For the GMN - (On hold while we are under strenght)</li>
<li>Working with Gentoo e.V. - fmccor (On hold for January e.V. meeting)</li>
<li>Licencing For emtom.cz - quantumsummers (On hold for International Licencing and Jan e.V meeting)</li>
<li>Licencing For Projektfarm GmbH - quantumsummers (On Hold for International Licencing and Jan e.V meeting)</li>
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<li>Membership Applications - if you have applied and you are not listed below, please remind the trustees
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<li>Gentoo Developers
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<li>coldwind</li>
<li>darkside</li>
<li>tanderson</li>
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<li>Community Members
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<li>WEIRDEDOUT</li>
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<li>Trustee Elections 2009</li>
<li>Does Gentoo use the Quicktime Penguin logo</li>
<li>Date of Next Meeting - Sunday 15 February 2009 1900 UTC</li>
<li>Any other business</li>
<li>Open floor</li>
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<b>Meeting Conduct</b>
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The channel will be open (not moderated) during the meeting unless there is so much chatter it becomes impossible to
make progress.
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Attendees can help by keeping questions to the end of an agenda item or the end of the meeting - your
point may be covered during the discussion anyway.
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Do not expect to bring up items in Any Other Business and get an instant response. Calm considered well
reasoned emails to <mail link="trustees@gentoo.org">the trustees</mail> or opening a bug are the best ways
to bring up new ideas.
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<b>Record Keeping</b>
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The meeting will be logged and both the <uri link="http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/minutes/">full log and a summary</uri>
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(02/15/2009 01:00:42 PM) ***NeddySeagoon calls the meeting to order
(02/15/2009 01:00:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: roll call
(02/15/2009 01:00:54 PM) #gentoo-trustees: mode (+v Betelgeuse ) by ChanServ
(02/15/2009 01:01:06 PM) ***fmccor is here
(02/15/2009 01:01:13 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair is here
(02/15/2009 01:01:56 PM) NeddySeagoon: We need tsunam with dmwaters being ill
(02/15/2009 01:01:56 PM) fmccor: tsunam, ping
(02/15/2009 01:01:58 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: tsunam: ping?
(02/15/2009 01:02:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: :)
(02/15/2009 01:02:19 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor, call him maybe?
(02/15/2009 01:02:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: yes please
(02/15/2009 01:02:48 PM) fmccor: Trying now
(02/15/2009 01:03:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: Did the USA have a daylight saving time change this weekend ?
(02/15/2009 01:03:08 PM) fmccor: No
(02/15/2009 01:04:06 PM) fmccor: Left a voice message.
(02/15/2009 01:04:39 PM) weirdedout: hi folks
(02/15/2009 01:04:49 PM) fmccor: Hello.
(02/15/2009 01:05:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, thanks. We'll wait until 19:10 UTC to see if we can get a quorum
(02/15/2009 01:05:02 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: hi there weirdedout
(02/15/2009 01:05:12 PM) fmccor: weirdedout, we're waiting for a quorum.
(02/15/2009 01:05:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: hi weirdedout ... this must be early for you
(02/15/2009 01:05:35 PM) weirdedout: no probs, yes it is 6am.
(02/15/2009 01:05:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: since we are waiting, will the trustees in the room take a look here: http://dpaste.com/120966/
(02/15/2009 01:05:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: & comment please
(02/15/2009 01:07:22 PM) weirdedout: brb, just getting a coffee.
(02/15/2009 01:07:23 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, it could be more chatty but there's no point. It says what needs to be said
(02/15/2009 01:07:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, would you like me to add some narative?
(02/15/2009 01:07:46 PM) fmccor: Fair enough
(02/15/2009 01:08:01 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair is no lawyer
(02/15/2009 01:08:10 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, I thing a standard letter is best, from our point of view
(02/15/2009 01:08:19 PM) rane: could use some narrative on where our logo is register and by whom
(02/15/2009 01:08:23 PM) NeddySeagoon: than means you don't have to change it every time
(02/15/2009 01:08:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: rane: good point. I will add some links to what I am talking about w.r.t. logo
(02/15/2009 01:08:48 PM) NeddySeagoon: rane, yeah, ok - that would still allow it to be standard
(02/15/2009 01:09:09 PM) rane: something like "Gentoo logo and name is a trademark registered blablabla by blabla in NM blabla and protected by US law and ninjas"
(02/15/2009 01:09:19 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I wrote a little app that I am using to track the known offenders, so this will be a template email
(02/15/2009 01:09:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: lol, ninjas
(02/15/2009 01:09:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: nice
(02/15/2009 01:09:30 PM) fmccor: It's registered in the US
(02/15/2009 01:09:49 PM) rane: i think German part of our project has it registered in Europe as well
(02/15/2009 01:09:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: The e.V. have it registered in Europe
(02/15/2009 01:09:54 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(02/15/2009 01:09:58 PM) rane: but i don't know if they've trasferred it
(02/15/2009 01:10:05 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: not yet anyway
(02/15/2009 01:10:05 PM) fmccor: No
(02/15/2009 01:10:06 PM) NeddySeagoon: rane, nope
(02/15/2009 01:10:17 PM) rane: well, we can mention them anyway
(02/15/2009 01:10:22 PM) rane: gentoo is mostly Europe and US anyway
(02/15/2009 01:10:31 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: the list I have is US based groups to the best of my knowledge
(02/15/2009 01:10:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: ... and cuba
(02/15/2009 01:10:49 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: gentoo is in the Caribbean now too!!
(02/15/2009 01:10:54 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: lol
(02/15/2009 01:11:02 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: that is awesome
(02/15/2009 01:11:03 PM) rane: now we know who sends us all those cigars!
(02/15/2009 01:11:18 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair like a good cigar every now & again
(02/15/2009 01:11:33 PM) rane: i love cuba libre now and then
(02/15/2009 01:11:33 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: so, with some minor changes you think that is an ok letter?
(02/15/2009 01:11:34 PM) NeddySeagoon: Google Nova Linux ... its Gentoo based
(02/15/2009 01:11:50 PM) rane: quantumsummers, it's very good, yeah
(02/15/2009 01:11:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: ping tsunam
(02/15/2009 01:12:34 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: want to postpone the meeting another 45 mins to wait on Josh?
(02/15/2009 01:13:40 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor, NeddySeagoon: can you tell me what Mr. Chew is available to do for us in terms of legal stuff?
(02/15/2009 01:13:41 PM) NeddySeagoon: looks like we are not going to get a quorum this month. Should we reschedule or skip a month? I prefer the former
(02/15/2009 01:14:11 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: reschedule or delay an hour or so
(02/15/2009 01:14:15 PM) rane: maybe let's start with a 45 mins postpone
(02/15/2009 01:14:19 PM) fmccor: Let's reschedule until next week.
(02/15/2009 01:14:55 PM) fmccor: Unless Joshua shows up in 45 minutes or so like rane said.
(02/15/2009 01:14:56 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, I'll make that suggestion on trustees@
(02/15/2009 01:14:57 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair submits a bug to buy tsunam a new alarm clock
(02/15/2009 01:15:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: Meeting abandoned due to lack of a quorum
(02/15/2009 01:15:39 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I'll be here all day
(02/15/2009 01:15:45 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, Apparently he's out, since his phone rolls over to VM.
(02/15/2009 01:16:08 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: or he got so tossed last night d-dialing he ran it out of bats
(02/15/2009 01:16:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: I've *been* here all day. 1ts 9:16 for me just now
(02/15/2009 01:16:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: heheheh
(02/15/2009 01:16:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: j/k josh
(02/15/2009 01:16:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: WAKE UP
(02/15/2009 01:16:34 PM) fmccor: I won't, but I will be here for 45 minutes more
(02/15/2009 01:16:49 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair is working on strategic plan
(02/15/2009 01:16:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: 19:16 ..
(02/15/2009 01:17:04 PM) rane: can trustees name other people to participate in the meeting when they can't make it?
(02/15/2009 01:17:08 PM) rane: (like council)
(02/15/2009 01:17:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: hmm, we have done a proxy before
(02/15/2009 01:17:33 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: via the phone though
(02/15/2009 01:17:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, talk to dberkholz about that. There should be one strategic plan for all of GEntoo
(02/15/2009 01:18:07 PM) weirdedout: I'm back. I can only stay for an hour, gotta go to work after that.
(02/15/2009 01:18:08 PM) rane: but proxies part is deleted in bylaws
(02/15/2009 01:18:15 PM) NeddySeagoon: rane, Nope. We are a legal business entity.
(02/15/2009 01:18:38 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, What do you have in mind (legal stuff)?
(02/15/2009 01:18:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: weirdedout, We haven't got a quorum, so we can't hold the meeting
(02/15/2009 01:18:50 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: foundation stuff
(02/15/2009 01:19:04 PM) fmccor: Like?
(02/15/2009 01:19:45 PM) weirdedout: oh well, best laid plans...
(02/15/2009 01:19:47 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor logistics & legal
(02/15/2009 01:19:55 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: aprtnerships
(02/15/2009 01:20:04 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, We have 4 lawyers including him; 5 counting me.
(02/15/2009 01:20:14 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: grants & other funding
(02/15/2009 01:20:26 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: marketing
(02/15/2009 01:20:33 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: revenue
(02/15/2009 01:20:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: etc
(02/15/2009 01:20:41 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: its a tad lengthy
(02/15/2009 01:20:56 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: however, I will have a draft available later today I think
(02/15/2009 01:21:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, put it in your election manifesto
(02/15/2009 01:21:34 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yup, that a piece of it
(02/15/2009 01:22:11 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: there are a ton of opportunities available _now_ to groups like ours
(02/15/2009 01:22:12 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, Best is to have specific questions, and start with me. Some things I can actually answer, and others I can tell you if you need legal opinion and who should give it.
(02/15/2009 01:22:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, whats our status if the US government takes exception to the Cuban version of Gentoo ?
(02/15/2009 01:22:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor yes thanks
(02/15/2009 01:22:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I do not think that will be an issue NeddySeagoon
(02/15/2009 01:23:01 PM) fmccor: NeddySeagoon, None. They're just pulling things from the internet.
(02/15/2009 01:23:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, I don't either, more an issue for ${UPSTREAM}
(02/15/2009 01:23:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: if anything it makes us look really good if a paranoid dictatorship is using us b/c we are more sercurable, etc
(02/15/2009 01:23:37 PM) fmccor: US Government would have to take it up with Cuba.
(02/15/2009 01:23:45 PM) rane: what if they start donating us?
(02/15/2009 01:23:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: cuban relations will get better with this pres
(02/15/2009 01:23:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, so that would be held to be public domain stuff ?
(02/15/2009 01:24:15 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: rane: now that would require a lawyer to answer
(02/15/2009 01:24:29 PM) fmccor: Once we post it for download, we can't control who gets it.
(02/15/2009 01:24:32 PM) rane: what if some Cubans suddenly express desire to join our developer pool
(02/15/2009 01:24:42 PM) rane: can we "hire" them?
(02/15/2009 01:24:45 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: that should be allowed
(02/15/2009 01:24:46 PM) fmccor: I'm sure Cuba uses lots of US software.
(02/15/2009 01:25:01 PM) fmccor: rane, Yes.
(02/15/2009 01:25:41 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, true ... but Sun and others with click through licences include some waffle about US export control
(02/15/2009 01:26:00 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair will brb
(02/15/2009 01:27:08 PM) fmccor: No matter what, they can pull it from a site outside the US. Most mirrors are not in the US.
(02/15/2009 01:29:02 PM) fmccor: At worst, it's a form of piracy from the US point of view. We have no control over who downloads our software from a Canadian mirror.
(02/15/2009 01:30:21 PM) fmccor: rane, Donations would be a problem, probably.
(02/15/2009 01:30:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, not to the e.V.
(02/15/2009 01:30:50 PM) fmccor: No, thatwould be fine.
(02/15/2009 01:31:14 PM) fmccor: That's a reason for keeping e.V. separate, too.
(02/15/2009 01:31:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: yep
(02/15/2009 01:31:46 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'm quite keen to keep a European entity
(02/15/2009 01:33:02 PM) fmccor: I agree. All we have to do is coordinate of the TM issues so that each of us can tell anyone asking for permission whom to talk to.
(02/15/2009 01:33:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: yep
(02/15/2009 01:34:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: Someone in the eurozone is needed to run a bank account too
(02/15/2009 01:34:58 PM) fmccor: If someone did, we could use that as our bank.
(02/15/2009 01:35:29 PM) fmccor: We don't need a US bank, I don't think.
(02/15/2009 01:37:31 PM) fmccor: Essentially, we would need access to the account, but you ( NeddySeagoon ) can do that, I think.
(02/15/2009 01:37:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: Thats an interesting thought
(02/15/2009 01:38:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: Not in Euros. Only GBP
(02/15/2009 01:39:18 PM) fmccor: Banks really don't care what currency you use. They might charge a fee for currency conversion, but that's just another way for them to make money.
(02/15/2009 01:39:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: Setting up a overseas (mainland europe) account for a US legal entity that does not have a US account, from the UK might be a challenge
(02/15/2009 01:40:29 PM) NeddySeagoon: The UK does not belong to the Euro
(02/15/2009 01:40:39 PM) fmccor: It's just a matter of finding someone who knows how to set it up.
(02/15/2009 01:41:05 PM) fmccor: US corporations certainly can bank off-shore (some do).
(02/15/2009 01:41:34 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I think we need to have both entities properly setup as non-profits with their own bank accounts, that is not to say we cannot share funds between them
(02/15/2009 01:41:47 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers++
(02/15/2009 01:42:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: this is a part of my strategic plan
(02/15/2009 01:42:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I will open it to comments of course
(02/15/2009 01:42:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: & compromise
(02/15/2009 01:42:37 PM) fmccor: For that matter, we could register the Foundation in Europe. (I think Ubuntu is registered in the Caribbean someplace).
(02/15/2009 01:43:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I think we should move the foundation to DC
(02/15/2009 01:43:20 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, Have you asked your accountant how to prod the IRS into action?
(02/15/2009 01:43:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: make many things easier
(02/15/2009 01:43:27 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, No you don't.
(02/15/2009 01:44:07 PM) fmccor: I'm not sure you can register a corporation in DC, but if so, you wouldn't want to.
(02/15/2009 01:44:37 PM) fmccor: NM is about the most corporation-friendly place you will find.
(02/15/2009 01:45:06 PM) fmccor: (cheap and pretty much unregulated)
(02/15/2009 01:45:44 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor yes, the basic things we need to do are: 1. Have CPA do as complete an audit as possible, 2. file for a 6 month extension for this years taxes, 3. get setup as 501c3 with IRS (fairly immediate response with that is guaranteed).
(02/15/2009 01:46:08 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I would be happy to fly to NM to meet with Mr. Chew to take care of the banking situation
(02/15/2009 01:47:06 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: if we do the above, we will be in really good shape by the end of 3rd Q 09
(02/15/2009 01:48:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: with 501c3 we will see our donations go way up, since the donation will be tax deductible
(02/15/2009 01:48:45 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: GNI has stated that they would assist with funding the move to 501c3
(02/15/2009 01:48:59 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: costs about $1000
(02/15/2009 01:49:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: which is not bad
(02/15/2009 01:49:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: considering we have some $, we can afford it
(02/15/2009 01:50:00 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, Right now, we are just waiting for a change of address for our EIN.
(02/15/2009 01:50:02 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I have spoken to several companies that would donate (or donate more) if we had 501c3 statys
(02/15/2009 01:50:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor right, we will get that going. The CPA I have is willing to assist there
(02/15/2009 01:50:35 PM) fmccor: We need to do that before we can do anything at all with banks according to tsunam
(02/15/2009 01:50:45 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: hmm, of that I am unsure
(02/15/2009 01:51:53 PM) armin76: bye tsunam *g*
(02/15/2009 01:52:10 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, Unless there is some problem IRS is not telling me about, I think it's just a matter of knowing whom to call to get them to do the 10 minutes it takes them.
(02/15/2009 01:53:12 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: we will know more as soon as Josh gets me all the available financials. That coupled with the archive of emails that I have, we should be able to survive an audit
(02/15/2009 01:53:12 PM) #gentoo-trustees: mode (+v mpagano ) by ChanServ
(02/15/2009 01:53:33 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: there may be a problem since we have not files federal taxes in some years
(02/15/2009 01:53:34 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, We're talking about two different things.
(02/15/2009 01:53:55 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I know what you are talking about
(02/15/2009 01:54:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: the IRS is backlogged
(02/15/2009 01:54:26 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: we may need to go higher up the chain to get a faster response
(02/15/2009 01:54:42 PM) fmccor: Right, that's what I'm talking about.
(02/15/2009 01:55:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Senator McCaskill's office is about 50 yards from mine, I can talk to her people, but I don't know anyone in NM
(02/15/2009 01:56:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: is Mr. Chew generally availble?
(02/15/2009 01:56:15 PM) fmccor: You don't need to know anyone in NM --- you need someone who will push the IRS.
(02/15/2009 01:56:26 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: what is his role as our registered agent?
(02/15/2009 01:56:30 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: can I talk to him?
(02/15/2009 01:56:31 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, Yes, at $200/hour
(02/15/2009 01:56:50 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok so he is a lawyer
(02/15/2009 01:57:40 PM) fmccor: Yes, you can check his web site for information on what he does. I don't have it handy, but can track it down later.
(02/15/2009 01:57:47 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: well like I said, I can travel to NM, at my own expense, to take care of these things if it becomes necessary.
(02/15/2009 01:58:25 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I like Albuquerque
(02/15/2009 01:58:37 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: used to live in Durango, CO
(02/15/2009 01:58:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: hehe
(02/15/2009 01:58:39 PM) fmccor: Let's just get that piece of paper from the IRS first, then put together a strategy.
(02/15/2009 01:58:49 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok :)
(02/15/2009 01:59:06 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, world domination you mean :)
(02/15/2009 01:59:24 PM) fmccor: We can't do anything further without a bank account. We have money in limbo because we can't do anything with it.
(02/15/2009 01:59:35 PM) fmccor: NeddySeagoon, If that's what it takes. :)
(02/15/2009 01:59:39 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: :D
(02/15/2009 02:00:25 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, An audit would be a problem, because g2boojum is holding on to quite a lot of our funds until we can put them someplace.
(02/15/2009 02:00:53 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Yes, I know. However it may be unavoidable
(02/15/2009 02:01:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor you know those checks (cheques) are only good for 1 year, some even less. :|
(02/15/2009 02:01:40 PM) fmccor: Now, I suggested talking to a member of congress earlier this week, so if you can ask Sen. McCaskill for help, that would be great.
(02/15/2009 02:01:50 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I can & will
(02/15/2009 02:02:00 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: she's a very nice lasy
(02/15/2009 02:02:06 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: *lady
(02/15/2009 02:02:38 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, I would be most upset to forfeit $20,000 just because we can't figure out how to open a bank account. :(
(02/15/2009 02:02:40 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, she didn't get to be Sen. by being nice
(02/15/2009 02:03:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, cheques can be reissued if they have expired
(02/15/2009 02:03:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, maybe grant has deposited the cheque in his own name somewhere ?
(02/15/2009 02:04:30 PM) fmccor: The money exists --- it's held by some internet bank.
(02/15/2009 02:04:41 PM) fmccor: NeddySeagoon, I hope so.
(02/15/2009 02:05:02 PM) fmccor: Then it's just a wire transfer.
(02/15/2009 02:05:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: yeah
(02/15/2009 02:05:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: My point then was that expiry of the cheque is not an issue
(02/15/2009 02:06:13 PM) fmccor: comprookie2000, If you want a real old-timer, Grant would be a good choice.
(02/15/2009 02:06:44 PM) comprookie2000: OK added to the list :)
(02/15/2009 02:06:57 PM) fmccor: NeddySeagoon, Right, I was exaggerating for effect. The bank account issue is becoming really urgent.
(02/15/2009 02:07:35 PM) fmccor: And no one seems to know how to get the IRS moving --- I certainly don't.
(02/15/2009 02:08:03 PM) tanderson: fmccor: pass another stimulus bill to hire more IRS staff
(02/15/2009 02:08:26 PM) fmccor: (Well, I do --- I could just quit filing taxes. But since I get refunds, that would be counterproductive.)
(02/15/2009 02:08:31 PM) fmccor: tanderson, NO!!!
(02/15/2009 02:08:34 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, yeah, we have to do federal taxes early April and nobody is exempt any more
(02/15/2009 02:09:28 PM) fmccor: tanderson, No one in the country wants the IRS to have more people. I'd rather shut it down. :)
(02/15/2009 02:10:10 PM) tanderson: flat tax ftw
(02/15/2009 02:12:12 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon, fmccor: we will need to file for an extension, its a simple form
(02/15/2009 02:12:45 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: that will buy is the time we need to get everything in order
(02/15/2009 02:12:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, I'd rather not ... I suspect that will get us under the spotlight for past years.
(02/15/2009 02:13:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: we should be at least prepared for an audit, as our lack of filing in the past will make us a target already
(02/15/2009 02:14:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: yep
(02/15/2009 02:15:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: We are from the IRS ... we are here to help ... heh
(02/15/2009 02:16:40 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, Right now we are in bad shape for that, because many of our assets are being held privately and we can't get at them.
(02/15/2009 02:17:06 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I know, I know. Its a little unsettling
(02/15/2009 02:17:53 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: though I have faith that it will work out in the end ( where the end is the foundation having a bank account in short order!!)
(02/15/2009 02:18:11 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: antarus: you cannot retire
(02/15/2009 02:19:00 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: hmm, tsunam's blog is down
(02/15/2009 02:19:12 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair hopes everything is ok
(02/15/2009 02:19:30 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, I've told him that too
(02/15/2009 02:21:22 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair will be back in 20 mins
(02/15/2009 02:22:54 PM) rane: if infra people process antarus we will have to look for another officials
(02/15/2009 02:23:04 PM) fmccor: tsunam was around Friday.
(02/15/2009 02:23:05 PM) rane: since without d.g.o access, he can't really verify anything
(02/15/2009 02:23:37 PM) fmccor: rane, Fortunately, that at least is not a Foundation problem. :)
(02/15/2009 02:23:57 PM) rane: it's my problem :-)
(02/15/2009 02:24:40 PM) NeddySeagoon: rane, keep him until the end of March
(02/15/2009 02:24:51 PM) rane: not in my hands
(02/15/2009 02:24:53 PM) fmccor: Right now we have two candidates for two positions, so if that holds up, this election is easy. :)
(02/15/2009 02:25:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: but with only two acceptances, there is no need for an election
(02/15/2009 02:25:26 PM) rane: quantumsummers says we need to proceed with voting anyway
(02/15/2009 02:26:32 PM) fmccor: rane, really? Not many people vote in uncontested elections. I'd hate for that to count in the bylaws rule.
(02/15/2009 02:26:54 PM) rane: that's why i asked in the first place
(02/15/2009 02:27:20 PM) rane: original question was: what do we do if we have only two candidates by the end of February?
(02/15/2009 02:28:09 PM) fmccor: I'd say declare them winners. I'd vote for them, and we don't have a non-of-the-above option, so they'd win.
(02/15/2009 02:28:28 PM) fmccor: ^non-^none-
(02/15/2009 02:29:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: Its elected unopposed
(02/15/2009 02:30:00 PM) rane: that would be the easy way
(02/15/2009 02:30:13 PM) armin76: rane: btw, plz do pingu's bug? :)
(02/15/2009 02:31:34 PM) rane: armin76, doing it right now
(02/15/2009 02:33:07 PM) rane: and done
(02/15/2009 02:35:29 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, just post the log from 1900 UTC to the meeting abandoned. Make sure you capture dmwaters apologies
1.1 xml/htdocs/foundation/en/minutes09/2009/20090222_trustees_meeting_log.txt
file : http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/xml/htdocs/foundation/en/minutes09/2009/20090222_trustees_meeting_log.txt?rev=1.1&view=markup
plain: http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo/xml/htdocs/foundation/en/minutes09/2009/20090222_trustees_meeting_log.txt?rev=1.1&content-type=text/plain
Index: 20090222_trustees_meeting_log.txt
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(02/22/2009 01:08:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: Lets do roll call and see who we have .
(02/22/2009 01:08:13 PM) NeddySeagoon: ?me is here now
(02/22/2009 01:08:31 PM) fmccor: Here
(02/22/2009 01:08:40 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: :)
(02/22/2009 01:09:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, is "house sitting" as wasn't sure if if could make it.
(02/22/2009 01:09:43 PM) NeddySeagoon: lets start using last weeks agenda - we have a quorum
(02/22/2009 01:09:57 PM) ***NeddySeagoon calls the meeting to order
(02/22/2009 01:10:10 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda item 1 - we can skip that
(02/22/2009 01:10:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda item 2 Actions From the Last Meeting
(02/22/2009 01:10:56 PM) NeddySeagoon: Does anyone know about Gentoo Foundation Banking ?
(02/22/2009 01:11:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: dmwaters, fmccor ?
(02/22/2009 01:11:09 PM) dmwaters: nope
(02/22/2009 01:11:12 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, ?
(02/22/2009 01:11:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: haven't heard from tsunam
(02/22/2009 01:11:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: re banking
(02/22/2009 01:11:29 PM) fmccor: Last I knew it was still jammed up, and this has to move to critical.
(02/22/2009 01:11:34 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(02/22/2009 01:11:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: agreed
(02/22/2009 01:11:49 PM) NeddySeagoon: Moving on ..
(02/22/2009 01:11:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: Certified Public Accountant - quantumsummers
(02/22/2009 01:11:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: re: 2.2 I am meeting with the CPA next week to get things rolling. perhaps we can get some advice on the banking front
(02/22/2009 01:12:12 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I still need financials from tsunam
(02/22/2009 01:12:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, try to speak (voice) with tsunam before then
(02/22/2009 01:12:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I have a few, but only half from 2008
(02/22/2009 01:12:37 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair needs his #
(02/22/2009 01:13:17 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, fmccor has it and it will be in the tarball of trustees@ as we all posted numbers there
(02/22/2009 01:13:31 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: got it, thanks fmccor
(02/22/2009 01:13:40 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, thanks
(02/22/2009 01:13:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: next Send friendly cease and desist emails to copyright infringers spotted on cafepress - quantumsummers
(02/22/2009 01:14:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: The template looked good
(02/22/2009 01:14:37 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, I will begin sending to my list on monday
(02/22/2009 01:14:56 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I also have a prelim app to track this stuff
(02/22/2009 01:15:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: feel free to add to the list too ... any infringers are fair game
(02/22/2009 01:15:24 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: will do, hence the app. the list in rather long
(02/22/2009 01:15:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, sounds good
(02/22/2009 01:15:30 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok
(02/22/2009 01:15:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: great
(02/22/2009 01:15:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: skip Treasurers Report for FY ending 30 June 2008
(02/22/2009 01:16:14 PM) NeddySeagoon: Next is Foundation Knowledge Management Needs - quantumsummers
(02/22/2009 01:16:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes, still under development
(02/22/2009 01:16:36 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: its coming along quite nicely
(02/22/2009 01:16:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: has a full social networking suite in it now
(02/22/2009 01:16:54 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: accounting is working
(02/22/2009 01:17:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: do you have a target date for 1st deployment ?
(02/22/2009 01:17:06 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: need to add a receipt filer to that, should be easy
(02/22/2009 01:17:20 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: hmm, not a solid date for overall completion
(02/22/2009 01:17:23 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: however
(02/22/2009 01:17:31 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I can deploy what I have anytime
(02/22/2009 01:18:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: I doubt it will ever be 'complete' but do you have per feature target dates ?
(02/22/2009 01:18:00 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: its a tad ugly, but I'm planning on using the html/css from the web redesign
(02/22/2009 01:18:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: Hmm, is there going to be a web redesign ?
(02/22/2009 01:18:36 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Not at the moment NeddySeagoon, as I am working on it in my spare time
(02/22/2009 01:19:00 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I am unsire about whether the redesign will make it for the main site
(02/22/2009 01:19:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: *unsure
(02/22/2009 01:19:13 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: but I will use it for mow
(02/22/2009 01:19:17 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: now
(02/22/2009 01:19:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: its pretty nice for this particular use case
(02/22/2009 01:19:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok. but you will deploy features as they become robust enough to use
(02/22/2009 01:19:39 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: regarding target dates
(02/22/2009 01:20:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: perhaps it would be useful for the board to let me know what is most helpful & I can plan deployment based on need
(02/22/2009 01:20:30 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, you won't get fired for missing dates ... I'm looking for something to provide focus is all.
(02/22/2009 01:21:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I would say that I will have a pretty full version by June or so, but
(02/22/2009 01:21:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I can deploy what I have this week & get everyone set up with users
(02/22/2009 01:21:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, that sounds good. 2009 is implied but it might be 2010 ...
(02/22/2009 01:21:41 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: if that is helpful
(02/22/2009 01:21:47 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: 2009
(02/22/2009 01:22:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I have some clients that want to use it too :)
(02/22/2009 01:22:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: python foundation is interested & django too
(02/22/2009 01:22:30 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: which will be nice
(02/22/2009 01:22:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, May as well leave it until after the April meeting, so we know who the new trustees are
(02/22/2009 01:22:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok
(02/22/2009 01:22:47 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: sounds reasonable
(02/22/2009 01:23:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: No pressure ... just focus
(02/22/2009 01:23:05 PM) fmccor: Unless we know in a week. :)
(02/22/2009 01:23:11 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I can hook into ldap if we ever want all devs to have some access
(02/22/2009 01:23:17 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, heh
(02/22/2009 01:23:42 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, that might be a nice touch
(02/22/2009 01:23:50 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: easy as pie
(02/22/2009 01:23:57 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: already set up for it
(02/22/2009 01:24:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: Moving on ... Trustee Elections 2009
(02/22/2009 01:24:34 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: the only nominee that I know of that is still thinking about accepting is Patrick
(02/22/2009 01:25:00 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: not sure about ciaran
(02/22/2009 01:25:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: I sent a summary mail to -nfp and -dev-announce. The rules do not cover what happens if we have 2 candidates for 2 vacancies ... we need to formalise that here and now.
(02/22/2009 01:25:30 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok
(02/22/2009 01:25:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: rane, jmbsvicetto ping
(02/22/2009 01:25:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ^^
(02/22/2009 01:26:15 PM) NeddySeagoon: I propose that when the number of candidates match the number vacancies, they be elected unopposed. No election required
(02/22/2009 01:26:24 PM) dmwaters: agreed
(02/22/2009 01:26:24 PM) fmccor: I agree.
(02/22/2009 01:26:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: recoreded
(02/22/2009 01:27:02 PM) fmccor left the room.
(02/22/2009 01:27:02 PM) fmccor [n=fmccor@gentoo/developer/fmccor] entered the room.
(02/22/2009 01:27:02 PM) #gentoo-trustees: mode (+o fmccor ) by ChanServ
(02/22/2009 01:27:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: When should they take their places ? I suggest that the date be held regardless. They might have real life that prevents bringing forward the start date
(02/22/2009 01:27:40 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: does that need to be added to the bylaws?
(02/22/2009 01:28:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, probably not, its more a Standard Operating Procedure. If we don't have a place to maintain SOPs, then we should add it
(02/22/2009 01:28:50 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok
(02/22/2009 01:28:51 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, Not necessarily --- I think it's really a matter for the election project in the end.
(02/22/2009 01:29:13 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, that works for me too
(02/22/2009 01:29:24 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair adds SOP to list of features to add to km-suite
(02/22/2009 01:29:27 PM) fmccor: NeddySeagoon, I do think we have to hold the date.
(02/22/2009 01:29:57 PM) fmccor: That is in the bylaws, I think.
(02/22/2009 01:30:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, me too, we can't very well say we don't need an election, you can start tomorrow
(02/22/2009 01:30:14 PM) ***dmwaters nods
(02/22/2009 01:30:23 PM) NeddySeagoon: thanks dmwaters
(02/22/2009 01:30:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda Item 3 Open Bugs Assigned to Trustees
(02/22/2009 01:31:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: bug 217511 ... still open to get some long term maintainance for the store. musikc is not here
(02/22/2009 01:31:54 PM) Willikins: NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/217511 "The Gentoo Store is Out of Date"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; NEW; neddyseagoon@g.o:trustees@g.o
(02/22/2009 01:32:22 PM) NeddySeagoon: 224689 tsunam needs to pay himself
(02/22/2009 01:32:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: bug 234705
(02/22/2009 01:32:52 PM) Willikins: NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/234705 "Document of being an active developer"; Gentoo Linux, Unspecified; NEW; dberkholz@g.o:araujo@g.o
(02/22/2009 01:33:17 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: what are we needing for this one
(02/22/2009 01:33:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ?
(02/22/2009 01:33:23 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: a design?
(02/22/2009 01:33:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: if that's it I can take a stab at it
(02/22/2009 01:33:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: araujo was going to provide the master. The PDF has 2008 on it. I spoke with him in -dev ... but hes not done it yet
(02/22/2009 01:34:11 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, I'll poke him
(02/22/2009 01:34:12 PM) fmccor: This is just issuing a certificate to active developers when needed, isn't it? I think the bug has a form attached to it.
(02/22/2009 01:34:51 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, It does. Its a PDF with 2008 in the PDF ... we need to be able to maintain the form
(02/22/2009 01:35:20 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I can add that in as a feature too
(02/22/2009 01:35:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: gen the pdf file & email it
(02/22/2009 01:35:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: to whomever wil be signing
(02/22/2009 01:36:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: bug 245227 ... robbat2 was going to do something but he wanted info from tsunam about out turnover
(02/22/2009 01:36:04 PM) fmccor: That's you as secretary, probably
(02/22/2009 01:36:04 PM) Willikins: NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/245227 "Funding request: replacement hard drive for osprey.gentoo.org"; Gentoo Linux, Unspecified; ASSI; robbat2@g.o:trustees@g.o
(02/22/2009 01:36:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, yeah, we agreed me for European devs
(02/22/2009 01:36:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok
(02/22/2009 01:37:03 PM) NeddySeagoon: its recorded in the logs a meeting or two ago
(02/22/2009 01:37:20 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: topic in infra says osprey is fixed
(02/22/2009 01:37:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: bug 253491 Gentoo Store - Add Case stickers, badges
(02/22/2009 01:37:26 PM) Willikins: NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/253491 "Gentoo Store - Add Case stickers, badges."; Gentoo Infrastructure, Other; ASSI; david@linuxcrazy.com:trustees@g.o
(02/22/2009 01:38:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: there was some interest in letting david handle the store with musikc
(02/22/2009 01:38:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, yep but it took a lot of pain ... we want -infra to be able to repair stuff without asking
(02/22/2009 01:38:19 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: I agree completely
(02/22/2009 01:38:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: comprookie2000, ping
(02/22/2009 01:38:30 PM) comprookie2000: hello
(02/22/2009 01:38:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: comprookie2000, are you interested in helping maintain the Gentoo store ?
(02/22/2009 01:39:04 PM) comprookie2000: yes
(02/22/2009 01:39:11 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: excellent
(02/22/2009 01:39:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: comprookie2000, please discuss with musikc when shes around next and work something out between you. Is that ok ?
(02/22/2009 01:40:09 PM) fmccor: She's still out of the country, I think.
(02/22/2009 01:40:26 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes she is
(02/22/2009 01:40:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, possibly ...
(02/22/2009 01:40:43 PM) comprookie2000: That would be fine, I will do that when she is back
(02/22/2009 01:40:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: comprookie2000, thanks.
(02/22/2009 01:40:57 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fantastico comprookie2000, thanks!
(02/22/2009 01:41:00 PM) comprookie2000: np
(02/22/2009 01:41:22 PM) NeddySeagoon: bug 254588 # Possible confusion over use of the Gentoo Penguin (Quicktime Penguin) Logo
(02/22/2009 01:41:24 PM) Willikins: NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/254588 "Possible confusion over use of the Gentoo Penguin (Quicktime Penguin) Logo"; Documentation, Other documents; NEW; fmccor@g.o:trustees@g.o
(02/22/2009 01:41:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: we should change this image
(02/22/2009 01:42:02 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I have looked into it a bit & its obvious that its not CC lic
(02/22/2009 01:42:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: to what ?
(02/22/2009 01:42:20 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: could use the linux penguin
(02/22/2009 01:42:26 PM) NeddySeagoon: The last comment on the bug is looking for a new image
(02/22/2009 01:42:47 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, you mean from the kernel ?
(02/22/2009 01:42:53 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(02/22/2009 01:43:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: that's creative commons lic, iirc
(02/22/2009 01:43:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, is that an offer to attach a file to the bug that the docs team can just pick up ?
(02/22/2009 01:43:33 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: sure
(02/22/2009 01:43:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: thanks
(02/22/2009 01:43:46 PM) comprookie2000: a good contest for users would be to create a new one
(02/22/2009 01:44:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: comprookie2000, I like that idea except I don't want to tell users whey we need it
(02/22/2009 01:44:59 PM) comprookie2000: understood
(02/22/2009 01:45:15 PM) NeddySeagoon: bug 255274 Funding request: SATA HDD for superh development board
(02/22/2009 01:45:21 PM) Willikins: NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/255274 "Funding request: SATA HDD for SuperH development board"; Gentoo Linux, Unspecified; NEW; armin76@g.o:trustees@g.o
(02/22/2009 01:45:44 PM) fmccor: armin76 is here I think.
(02/22/2009 01:45:57 PM) armin76: yup
(02/22/2009 01:46:27 PM) armin76: i'll try to get it done next week
(02/22/2009 01:46:31 PM) armin76: or this week
(02/22/2009 01:46:40 PM) NeddySeagoon: It has 3 votes in favour. Did tsunam do the transfer armin76 ?
(02/22/2009 01:47:02 PM) armin76: NeddySeagoon: nope, because as the latest comment said, there was some issues
(02/22/2009 01:47:15 PM) armin76: i hope to solve them this week and then ask for the refund
(02/22/2009 01:47:34 PM) armin76: i.e, before march
(02/22/2009 01:47:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: armin76, ok.
(02/22/2009 01:48:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: bug 256441 foundation-announce@gentoo.org mailing list for official Foundation correspondence.
(02/22/2009 01:48:06 PM) Willikins: NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/256441 "foundation-announce@gentoo.org mailing list for official Foundation correspondence."; Gentoo Infrastructure, Mailing Lists; NEW; fmccor@g.o:infra-bugs@g.o
(02/22/2009 01:49:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: Any update to the bug? We need this list in the next week in case we have an election
(02/22/2009 01:50:10 PM) fmccor: I think it's waiting for a list of whom to subscribe to it?
(02/22/2009 01:50:55 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, we have a list of @gentoo addresses to pass to -infra and quantumsummers was testing the ex devs ...
(02/22/2009 01:50:55 PM) fmccor: As I recall, robbat2 said there was no problem creating it.
(02/22/2009 01:51:56 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, can you provide a list of address to -infra please, not on the bug ... :)
(02/22/2009 01:51:57 PM) fmccor: OK. Last comment on the bug is a request to infra.
(02/22/2009 01:52:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes I can do that
(02/22/2009 01:52:56 PM) NeddySeagoon: we can manage bounces and try to track down members who have changed email
(02/22/2009 01:53:19 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, sounds good
(02/22/2009 01:53:34 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda item 4 Actions From Previous Meetings on hold for one or more actions above
(02/22/2009 01:53:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: No change ...
(02/22/2009 01:54:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda Item 5 Membership Applications -..
(02/22/2009 01:54:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: r0bertz and a3li Gentoo developers
(02/22/2009 01:54:53 PM) fmccor: Yes to both developers.
(02/22/2009 01:55:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'm in favour of both
(02/22/2009 01:55:06 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: dmwaters: ^^?
(02/22/2009 01:55:08 PM) dmwaters: me also
(02/22/2009 01:55:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: dmwaters, ?
(02/22/2009 01:55:12 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: :)
(02/22/2009 01:55:46 PM) NeddySeagoon: thanks ... they become members but do not get to vote or stand in the 2009 election as its after the recording date
(02/22/2009 01:55:54 PM) dmwaters: nodnod
(02/22/2009 01:55:56 PM) NeddySeagoon: WEIRDEDOUT
(02/22/2009 01:56:21 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'm in favour, having spoken to him and heard his podcast
(02/22/2009 01:56:32 PM) fmccor: I still support him for reasons I've already given --- he's here if anyone wishes to speak to him.
(02/22/2009 01:56:45 PM) NeddySeagoon: dmwaters, ?
(02/22/2009 01:56:50 PM) dmwaters: i'm in favor also
(02/22/2009 01:57:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: Carried
(02/22/2009 01:57:06 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: good, recorded
(02/22/2009 01:57:11 PM) NeddySeagoon: oahong
(02/22/2009 01:57:12 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: welcome weirdedout
(02/22/2009 01:57:18 PM) fmccor: weirdedout, you're in. :)
(02/22/2009 01:57:22 PM) weirdedout: thank you :)
(02/22/2009 01:57:49 PM) fmccor: Don't know a thing about oahong --- let me see if I can find his application ....
(02/22/2009 01:58:01 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair hands weirdedout the special foundation member cookie ;)
(02/22/2009 01:58:14 PM) NeddySeagoon: oahong is a chinese contributor to an overlay ... if you have seen trustees@ ... he is vouched for by r0bertz
(02/22/2009 01:58:18 PM) ***weirdedout eats cookie.
(02/22/2009 01:58:39 PM) dmwaters: i'm in favor
(02/22/2009 01:58:55 PM) fmccor: I just saw it. I''m in favor
(02/22/2009 01:59:35 PM) fmccor: Just needed to refresh my memory.
(02/22/2009 02:00:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'm in favour too
(02/22/2009 02:00:05 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: thoughts?
(02/22/2009 02:00:10 PM) NeddySeagoon: carried
(02/22/2009 02:00:12 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ah, good recorded
(02/22/2009 02:00:23 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, sorry, I was doing the +V
(02/22/2009 02:00:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: np sir
(02/22/2009 02:01:09 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair hands a cookie to oahong
(02/22/2009 02:01:18 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda item 6 # Annual General Meeting Planning
(02/22/2009 02:01:44 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: is this an irc thing or in person?
(02/22/2009 02:01:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: This is the only public meeting we are required by law to hold. I suggest it replaces our April meeting
(02/22/2009 02:02:04 PM) fmccor: Has to be irc, I think.
(02/22/2009 02:02:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok
(02/22/2009 02:02:25 PM) dmwaters: april is better for me
(02/22/2009 02:02:30 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, I don't see the foundation paying for my flights :)
(02/22/2009 02:02:33 PM) fmccor: So, it would be combined with the introduction of the new board?
(02/22/2009 02:03:06 PM) NeddySeagoon: dmwaters, It will be after the election and unless you change your mind, you won't be a trustee then ...
(02/22/2009 02:03:15 PM) dmwaters: ah ok:P
(02/22/2009 02:03:24 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers: pONG
(02/22/2009 02:03:28 PM) jmbsvicetto: sorry
(02/22/2009 02:04:17 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, yes. so we can introduce the new trustees, Typically, the meeting would elect trustees but we will have done it before hand which is ok
(02/22/2009 02:04:31 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: hi jmbsvicetto, just wanted to let you know about the boards decision regarding an uncontested election
(02/22/2009 02:04:31 PM) fmccor: Makes sense.
(02/22/2009 02:04:43 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, what topics are we legally obliged to discuss ?
(02/22/2009 02:05:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: In the UK, it would be reports from all the officers
(02/22/2009 02:05:22 PM) fmccor: I don't know that there are any. Typically, financial things (like annual report).
(02/22/2009 02:05:24 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers: we were expecting that already. Thanks for the poke, though
(02/22/2009 02:05:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: kk
(02/22/2009 02:06:35 PM) fmccor: Yes, the annual report would contain reports from the officers. Let me see if I can track it down quickly.
(02/22/2009 02:06:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: Chairmans report, secys report ... Assets and liabilities ... balance sheet etc
(02/22/2009 02:07:10 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, we don't need it right now but it looks like there will be some prep to go into it
(02/22/2009 02:08:10 PM) NeddySeagoon: The annual report is a public document which we should circulate to members and post on the web
(02/22/2009 02:08:58 PM) fmccor: OK, the annual meeting is pretty much driven by the members. There is no specific set of topics which must be covered.
(02/22/2009 02:09:50 PM) fmccor: I'd expect to present a "State of the Foundation" report and then take questions, perhaps submitted before the meeting.
(02/22/2009 02:11:02 PM) fmccor: There is no penalty for not holding one even though a meeting is required by statute --- but if we don't hold one, any member can get a court order forcing one.
(02/22/2009 02:11:15 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok - lets firm it up on trustees@ then
(02/22/2009 02:11:41 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, yeah ... lets just hold an AGM so we can be seen to be open
(02/22/2009 02:12:11 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda Item 7 Date of Next Meeting - Sunday 15 March 2009 1900 UTC
(02/22/2009 02:12:12 PM) fmccor: I wasn't suggesting we not hold one. :)
(02/22/2009 02:12:22 PM) NeddySeagoon: Is that ok for everyone ?
(02/22/2009 02:12:23 PM) fmccor: Should be OK.
(02/22/2009 02:12:27 PM) dmwaters: can we please make that a different date
(02/22/2009 02:12:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: dmwaters, suggestions ?
(02/22/2009 02:12:45 PM) dmwaters: that's my birthday and i know i won't be around, heh
(02/22/2009 02:12:59 PM) dmwaters: what about the sunday after?
(02/22/2009 02:13:04 PM) fmccor: The 22nd then?
(02/22/2009 02:13:06 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: the next weekend is pycon & I will be unavailable
(02/22/2009 02:13:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: I can do any day at 19:00 UTC
(02/22/2009 02:13:20 PM) dmwaters: hmm
(02/22/2009 02:13:22 PM) fmccor: So can I.
(02/22/2009 02:13:26 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: oh, wait nm
(02/22/2009 02:13:29 PM) dmwaters: monday the 16th?
(02/22/2009 02:13:55 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, You were saying?
(02/22/2009 02:13:56 PM) NeddySeagoon: weekdays, 2000 might be better - work can get a bit hetic
(02/22/2009 02:14:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: Monday 16 at what time ?
(02/22/2009 02:14:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor I can be there on the 22nd, or the 16h
(02/22/2009 02:14:47 PM) dmwaters: if the 22nd is better we can do that
(02/22/2009 02:14:49 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: 2000UTC is good here
(02/22/2009 02:14:58 PM) fmccor: The 22nd then --- I don't think tsunam can make workdays
(02/22/2009 02:15:03 PM) dmwaters: up to you guys, just not the 15th please :)
(02/22/2009 02:15:16 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: happy impending bday dmwaters
(02/22/2009 02:15:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: Lets do Sunday 22nd at 1900 then ... keep things as normal as possible
(02/22/2009 02:15:24 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok
(02/22/2009 02:15:27 PM) dmwaters: ok
(02/22/2009 02:15:49 PM) fmccor: US will be going to daylight time someplace in there, so yes, please keep it 1900. :)
(02/22/2009 02:15:58 PM) dmwaters: the 8th of march
(02/22/2009 02:16:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: Item 8 Any other business
(02/22/2009 02:16:01 PM) dmwaters: i think
(02/22/2009 02:16:07 PM) dmwaters: is daylight savings time
(02/22/2009 02:16:10 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Pycon 2009
(02/22/2009 02:16:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: march 27-29
(02/22/2009 02:16:28 PM) NeddySeagoon: dmwaters, yep ... for the USA
(02/22/2009 02:16:33 PM) fmccor: dmwaters, So soon. :( That's just 2 weeks.
(02/22/2009 02:16:45 PM) dmwaters: fmccor: nod
(02/22/2009 02:16:45 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I will be organizing a gentoo BoF again
(02/22/2009 02:17:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: do we want anything to be available?
(02/22/2009 02:17:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: like tshirts, stickers, etc
(02/22/2009 02:17:40 PM) fmccor: I'd think so
(02/22/2009 02:17:49 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I'm doing a little presentation on gentoo/python/django
(02/22/2009 02:17:55 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: should have a nice turnout
(02/22/2009 02:17:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, get stuff organised early ... nobody did it for FOSDEM so it didn't happen
(02/22/2009 02:18:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I will
(02/22/2009 02:18:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: its in a month so not much time
(02/22/2009 02:18:31 PM) NeddySeagoon: exactly
(02/22/2009 02:18:41 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: is there a budget you would like me to stick to?
(02/22/2009 02:18:51 PM) NeddySeagoon: tee shirts and stuff will be 3 weeks
(02/22/2009 02:19:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I think maybe 50 stickers & some tsirts
(02/22/2009 02:19:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, make a proposal on trustees@
(02/22/2009 02:19:30 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, will do
(02/22/2009 02:19:36 PM) #gentoo-trustees: mode (+v araujo ) by ChanServ
(02/22/2009 02:19:38 PM) araujo: hello all
(02/22/2009 02:19:40 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: araujo is here
(02/22/2009 02:19:57 PM) araujo: quantumsummers, let me upload a new version of the cert right now
(02/22/2009 02:20:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: araujo: what is the status, ah, great
(02/22/2009 02:20:10 PM) araujo: what's up guys? :)
(02/22/2009 02:20:19 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: araujo: just finishing a meeting
(02/22/2009 02:20:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: araujo, can you upload the master so the foundation can maintain it please ?
(02/22/2009 02:20:25 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: glad I caught you
(02/22/2009 02:20:32 PM) araujo: quantumsummers, well.. if the community likes the current design, I guess this is pretty much done
(02/22/2009 02:20:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: araujo: what are you using to make it
(02/22/2009 02:20:45 PM) araujo: NeddySeagoon, of course I can, I do it right now
(02/22/2009 02:20:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: araujo, thanks
(02/22/2009 02:21:02 PM) araujo: quantumsummers, scribus, I will upload the sources right now
(02/22/2009 02:21:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: perfect, thanks araujo
(02/22/2009 02:21:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: any more for any more ?
(02/22/2009 02:21:18 PM) ***tanderson may need one of them sometime
(02/22/2009 02:21:22 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair like scribus alot
(02/22/2009 02:21:38 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: not for me
(02/22/2009 02:21:43 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda Item 9 ... Open floor
(02/22/2009 02:21:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: I have one thing ...
(02/22/2009 02:22:01 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yessir
(02/22/2009 02:22:06 PM) NeddySeagoon: Happy birthday when it comes dmwaters
(02/22/2009 02:22:12 PM) dmwaters: NeddySeagoon: hehe
(02/22/2009 02:22:24 PM) dmwaters: NeddySeagoon: i feel old already;p
(02/22/2009 02:22:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: dmwaters, is it a big one ?
(02/22/2009 02:22:46 PM) dmwaters: NeddySeagoon: sort of
(02/22/2009 02:23:26 PM) NeddySeagoon: dmwaters, enjoy yourself but don't get too hung over
(02/22/2009 02:23:49 PM) dmwaters: NeddySeagoon: i think the general plan seems to be for my aunt to take me out on the town and go drinking
(02/22/2009 02:23:49 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: stay away from the tequilla
(02/22/2009 02:24:03 PM) antarus: and the yaeger, and...
(02/22/2009 02:24:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: lol
(02/22/2009 02:24:12 PM) dmwaters: lol
(02/22/2009 02:24:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: any more for any more ...
(02/22/2009 02:24:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: not I
(02/22/2009 02:24:33 PM) dmwaters: i learned my drinking lessons 10 years ago guys;p
(02/22/2009 02:24:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: :D
(02/22/2009 02:24:44 PM) fmccor: Not for me.
(02/22/2009 02:24:48 PM) antarus: I never learned ;)
(02/22/2009 02:24:48 PM) ***NeddySeagoon declares the meeting closed
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<b>Time and Venue</b>
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<p>
<b>Sunday, 15 February 2009 1900 UTC on irc.freenode.net #gentoo-trustees</b>
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<p></p>
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<p>
<b>Agenda</b>
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<ol>
<li>Introductions</li>
<li>Actions From the Last Meeting
<ul>
<li>Gentoo Foundation Banking - tsunam</li>
<li>Certified Public Accountant - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Send friendly cease and desist emails to copyright infringers spotted on cafepress - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Treasurers Report for FY ending 30 June 2008</li>
<li>Foundation Knowledge Management Needs - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Trustee Elections 2009</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Open Bugs Assigned to Trustees
<ul>
<li>217511 The Gentoo Store is Out of Date - musikc</li>
<li>224689 Request for Reimbusement for legal fees to lawyer</li>
<li>234705 Document of being an active developer</li>
<li>245227 budget limit for infra repairs</li>
<li>253491 Gentoo Store - Add Case stickers, badges</li>
<li>254588 Possible confusion over use of the Gentoo Penguin (Quicktime Penguin) Logo</li>
<li>255274 Funding request: SATA HDD for superh development board</li>
<li>256441 foundation-announce@gentoo.org mailing list for official Foundation correspondence.</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Actions From Previous Meetings on hold for one or more actions above
<ul>
<li>Trustees and Foundation Article For the GMN - (On hold while we are under strenght)</li>
<li>Working with Gentoo e.V. - fmccor (On hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V. meeting)</li>
<li>Licencing For emtom.cz - quantumsummers (On hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V meeting)</li>
<li>Licencing For Projektfarm GmbH - quantumsummers (On Hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V meeting)</li>
<li>Fix name and address on IPR/trademark documents, 31 Aug 2008 meeting authorised the $200 fees - fmccor</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Membership Applications - if you have applied and you are not listed below, please remind the trustees
<ul>
<li>Gentoo Developers
<ul>
<li>r0bertz</li>
<li>a3li</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Community Members
<ul>
<li>WEIRDEDOUT</li>
<li>oahong</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Annual General Meeting Planning</li>
<li>Date of Next Meeting - Sunday 15 March 2009 1900 UTC</li>
<li>Any other business</li>
<li>Open floor</li>
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<p>
<b>Meeting Conduct</b>
</p>
<p>
The channel will be open (not moderated) during the meeting unless there is so much chatter it becomes impossible to
make progress.
</p>
<p>
Attendees can help by keeping questions to the end of an agenda item or the end of the meeting - your
point may be covered during the discussion anyway.
</p>
<p>
Do not expect to bring up items in Any Other Business and get an instant response. Calm considered well
reasoned emails to <mail link="trustees@gentoo.org">the trustees</mail> or opening a bug are the best ways
to bring up new ideas.
</p>
<p>
<b>Record Keeping</b>
</p>
<p>
The meeting will be logged and both the <uri link="http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/minutes/">full log and a summary</uri>
of decisions will be made publicaly available
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<b>Summary</b>
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<p>
When the board was elected in March 2008 we knew we were taking over control of a foundation
that had fallen into bad standing and that there was a lot of work to do to fix that. Of the five
elected trustees, two advised in their election manifestos that they didn't really have time or
want to do the job – they were still elected and made useful contributions before they retired before
the end of their terms of office.
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<p>
During the year, we have appointed a registered agent in New Mexico, restored the foundation
to good standing, adopted bylaws, established a bank account and recruited our first non-developer,
non-trustee officer. Although he soon became a developer and in the recent election, was elected a trustee.
With the help of previous trustees we have also taken over the relationship with our previous US copyright
and trade mark law firm and engaged the services of a law firm practicing in the field of international copyright
and trade marks.
</p>
<p>
<b>Detail Report</b>
</p>
<p>
After we took office, it became apparent that many of the records the foundation was supposed to keep to
satisfy both its own draft bylaws and its statutory obligations to New Mexico either did not exist or were not
available to us.
</p>
<p>
Past trustees gave us what they had and we have pieced together more from information in the public domain.
It quickly became apparent that the Foundation needed some continuity planning. Our Secretary will expand
on that point in his report.
</p>
<p>
The falling into bad standing was not due to neglect by previous office holders. The proper paperwork had
been filed but it did not reach the authorities. This left us needing to appoint a registered agent before we
could refile as we are required to maintain a presence in New Mexico to register as a not for profit corporation there.
</p>
<p>
With our good standing restored, we focused on bylaws and a bank account. Much of the draft bylaws were
'boilerplate' text borrowed from other places for other not for-profit corporations. However, they needed to be
adapted to the virtual existence of the Gentoo Foundation inc. We are not totally virtual, you may still write to
us at the address of our registered agent.
</p>
<p>
While the above was in progrees, we worked with some of the previous trustees to keep the relationship with
the US law firm that looked after our copyright and trademark issues alive. This was successfully accomplished
and we were also able to engage another law firm for international copyright and trade make issues. Luckily,
these two firms know each other very well and on occasions, work together too.
</p>
<p>
Establishing a bank account turned out to be harder than we expected. We needed an internet bank that did
not require us to have a physical presence in the State where the account would be held and we really didn't
want to travel very far to open the account. We had a few false starts before our recent success. Our
Treasurer will expand on this.
</p>
<p>
Following the resignation of tgall both as a trustee and secretary, we recruited to fill the secretary vacancy.
Quantumsummers was appointed to the office of secretary (not trustee) and dmwaters was subsequently
appointed to the trustee vacancy. In a similar time frame, wltjr resigned as a trustee. Its was obvious before
he resigned that he was becoming frustrated by the perceived lack of progress. This vacancy on the board
was never filled.
</p>
<p>
During the year we have established a sound base to build the Gentoo Foundation on. We have access to our
funds again so that we can fund activities in line with our articles of incorporation and our charter.
</p>
<p>
<b>Looking Ahead</b>
</p>
<p>
Its still not clear what the long term future of the Gentoo Foundation Inc will be. It is on a reasonably sound
footing but keeping trustee posts filled is remaining an issue. We did try to fill the vacancy when wltjr resigned.
In the recent elections we had four candidates accept their nomintions. Its clear that opening membership to
non developers has helped and we are hopeful we can find more trustee candidates from outside the Gentoo
developer pool.
</p>
<p>
Going forward we need to establish the Gentoo Foundation as a proper Not For Profit business organisation,
with a predictable managed income stream, budgets for expenditures and 503(c)(3) registration, which will
make donations from organisations easier to obtain. As our income becomes stronger and more predictable,
so too can our expenditures and the things we can do to help Gentoo develop.
</p>
<p>
One thing well up the agenda for the comining year is to reorganise so that the trustees are not also office holders.
This will allow the trustees to operate as a board of directors, which is effectively what they are, while
office holders do the work at the direction of the trustees. This structure will help with the continuity of the
Foundation as office holders are appointed, not elected.
</p>
<p>
<b>Closing Remarks</b>
</p>
<p>
In closing we would like to thank all those who have helped to get us where we are today.
</p>
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(03/22/2009 02:00:49 PM) ***BlueBottle calls the meeting to order ...
(03/22/2009 02:01:04 PM) BlueBottle: tsunam, dmwaters ...
(03/22/2009 02:01:28 PM) tsunam: yep
(03/22/2009 02:01:32 PM) fmccor|home: I don't think Deedra can make it.
(03/22/2009 02:01:46 PM) ***tsunam actually just woke up. Been sick :(
(03/22/2009 02:01:47 PM) BlueBottle: ok we have a quorum ...
(03/22/2009 02:02:26 PM) fmccor|home: tsunam, ouch. A lot of that going around.
(03/22/2009 02:02:32 PM) tsunam: yep
(03/22/2009 02:02:35 PM) BlueBottle: Actions From the Last Meeting * Gentoo Foundation Banking - tsunam
(03/22/2009 02:02:44 PM) tsunam: application submitted
(03/22/2009 02:02:51 PM) tsunam: waiting to hear back from the bank
(03/22/2009 02:02:57 PM) BlueBottle: yea!
(03/22/2009 02:03:00 PM) tsunam: will call mid next week if I don't hear anything
(03/22/2009 02:03:02 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: faxed to cap1 on Thursday
(03/22/2009 02:03:06 PM) BlueBottle: ok
(03/22/2009 02:03:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: or was it Wed
(03/22/2009 02:03:15 PM) tsunam: think it was thurs
(03/22/2009 02:03:29 PM) BlueBottle: Certified Public Accountant - quantumsummers
(03/22/2009 02:03:49 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: CPA says we do not have to file taxes this year since we made <$25K
(03/22/2009 02:04:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I have started filling out the 1023 for 501c3 status
(03/22/2009 02:04:15 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: there is a small potential issue
(03/22/2009 02:04:28 PM) BlueBottle: ?
(03/22/2009 02:04:28 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: since the foundation has been around for more than 24 months
(03/22/2009 02:04:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: the irs might audit/fine us
(03/22/2009 02:04:57 PM) tsunam: hmm?
(03/22/2009 02:04:59 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: but its not a guarantee
(03/22/2009 02:05:11 PM) BlueBottle: we did not intend 501c when we were founded
(03/22/2009 02:05:20 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: doesn't matter
(03/22/2009 02:05:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: that's a fed law
(03/22/2009 02:05:36 PM) BlueBottle: thats a change of intent/direction
(03/22/2009 02:05:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: if you become a nfp ni a state, you are supposed to become a 501
(03/22/2009 02:05:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: not necessarily a c3
(03/22/2009 02:05:58 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: there are other types
(03/22/2009 02:06:15 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: but we want to be comsidered a charity for tax/donation reasons
(03/22/2009 02:06:18 PM) BlueBottle: yeah, 501 was intended but another type
(03/22/2009 02:06:22 PM) fmccor|home: We started out to be c6 for some reason.
(03/22/2009 02:06:39 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: donors get 0 tax break for c6
(03/22/2009 02:06:56 PM) tsunam: yep
(03/22/2009 02:07:00 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: maybe the thought was that we wouldn't qualify for c3
(03/22/2009 02:07:05 PM) BlueBottle: we probaly need a full session on 503c and what it means
(03/22/2009 02:07:06 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: but we do
(03/22/2009 02:07:23 PM) ***jmbsvicetto peeks in
(03/22/2009 02:07:23 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: BlueBottle: yes, I can assist there
(03/22/2009 02:07:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: hi Jorge
(03/22/2009 02:07:47 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: 'course all the info is on the web, see the link from my manifesto
(03/22/2009 02:07:53 PM) fmccor|home: There was a reason at the time, but c6 is for things like baseball teams.
(03/22/2009 02:07:54 PM) BlueBottle: quantumsummers, we shoulf set that up in April, with the new trustees
(03/22/2009 02:08:05 PM) jmbsvicetto: Hi everyone
(03/22/2009 02:08:12 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: BlueBottle: yes, let do that
(03/22/2009 02:08:15 PM) BlueBottle: hi jorge
(03/22/2009 02:08:26 PM) BlueBottle: Send friendly cease and desist emails to copyright infringers spotted on cafepress - quantumsummers
(03/22/2009 02:08:38 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: please shoot me nowe
(03/22/2009 02:09:15 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I haven't done that yet, the tattoos on the inside of my eyelids must have worn off
(03/22/2009 02:09:37 PM) BlueBottle: Now we know our copyright is good in the EU and the US, we should add the EU to that list. I don't think Gentoo e.V. would mind
(03/22/2009 02:09:37 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair gets out the permanent marker again
(03/22/2009 02:09:55 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: BlueBottle: fine with me
(03/22/2009 02:10:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: any US & EU companies now?
(03/22/2009 02:10:24 PM) BlueBottle: Treasurers Report for FY ending 30 June 2008
(03/22/2009 02:10:31 PM) BlueBottle: tsunam, ^^
(03/22/2009 02:11:04 PM) tsunam: I need to update the documents actually. I have all the info now, managed to grab it for quantumsummers for the cpa
(03/22/2009 02:11:30 PM) BlueBottle: tsunam, and the web pages ?
(03/22/2009 02:11:40 PM) tsunam: that's what I was implying =)
(03/22/2009 02:11:48 PM) BlueBottle: sorry
(03/22/2009 02:12:01 PM) tsunam: no problem
(03/22/2009 02:12:06 PM) BlueBottle: Foundation Knowledge Management Needs - quantumsummers
(03/22/2009 02:12:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: hey, so I have some progress on that, robbat is ready to have it hosted.
(03/22/2009 02:12:47 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I gave him a target in June for deploy
(03/22/2009 02:12:58 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: so far we have:
(03/22/2009 02:13:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: membership
(03/22/2009 02:13:07 PM) BlueBottle: sounds good.
(03/22/2009 02:13:08 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: basic accounting
(03/22/2009 02:13:14 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: wiki
(03/22/2009 02:13:20 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: tasks
(03/22/2009 02:13:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: action items from meetings with milestones
(03/22/2009 02:13:40 PM) BlueBottle: SOPs?
(03/22/2009 02:13:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: working on guidexml integration
(03/22/2009 02:14:15 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: SOP = standard operating procedures?
(03/22/2009 02:14:16 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(03/22/2009 02:14:20 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: basic though
(03/22/2009 02:14:23 PM) BlueBottle: there is more than enough there to roll it out, it can be added to
(03/22/2009 02:14:39 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: sure
(03/22/2009 02:14:40 PM) BlueBottle: quantumsummers, yes
(03/22/2009 02:14:54 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: working on some further integration for projects
(03/22/2009 02:15:00 PM) BlueBottle: Trustee Elections 2009
(03/22/2009 02:15:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: jmbsvicetto: ^^
(03/22/2009 02:15:24 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers: ?
(03/22/2009 02:15:36 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: care to make a statement regarding the election?
(03/22/2009 02:15:52 PM) BlueBottle: rane, brought up a good point. We have no mechanism for dropping members in the bylaws
(03/22/2009 02:15:54 PM) jmbsvicetto: Sorry, I'm a bit lost. What type of statement?
(03/22/2009 02:16:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: BlueBottle: I propose the board establish an SOP for this
(03/22/2009 02:16:44 PM) BlueBottle: quantumsummers, keep going ... what should it say
(03/22/2009 02:16:44 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: jmbsvicetto: just on the progress, and anything you have noticed that is going well or ill
(03/22/2009 02:17:14 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: BlueBottle: ok, so basically there could be a vote every month, like for new members
(03/22/2009 02:17:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: the criterion for dismissal should be simple, MIA for X time unit
(03/22/2009 02:18:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: MIA to be determined similar to the way that MIA devs are retired
(03/22/2009 02:18:13 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: something to that effect
(03/22/2009 02:18:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: could add a "slacker" mark for not voting, etc
(03/22/2009 02:18:41 PM) jmbsvicetto: About the current election? There were some complaints about people not realizing the election was on until it was time to vote. In my view, anyone not subscribed to the gentoo-nfp ml, doesn't have a good case. Having the foundation-announce ml before the election started would have been a great thing, but it just wasn't possible
(03/22/2009 02:19:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: jmbsvicetto: what is the turnout?
(03/22/2009 02:19:16 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: so far
(03/22/2009 02:19:31 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: last I heard it was ~62 or so
(03/22/2009 02:19:32 PM) jmbsvicetto: There were a few doubts about the voting procedures and we've identified one voter that wasn't in the list (but the voter only noticed that 2 days ago). The rest seems to be going fine
(03/22/2009 02:19:40 PM) jmbsvicetto: 63
(03/22/2009 02:20:01 PM) jmbsvicetto: 17:32 <+rane> anyway, 63 votes so far <- almost 3 hours ago
(03/22/2009 02:20:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, that's good.
(03/22/2009 02:20:17 PM) fmccor|home: About a third?
(03/22/2009 02:20:29 PM) BlueBottle: quantumsummers, I don't see what MIA means for the foundation. Members get to vote and keep their emails up to date.
(03/22/2009 02:20:30 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: somehow I missed tupone, but that's taken care of now
(03/22/2009 02:20:57 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: BlueBottle: MIA would need a solid definition
(03/22/2009 02:21:16 PM) BlueBottle: I propose that MIA means two missed elections. Members not wishing to vote can rank all candiates equally
(03/22/2009 02:21:41 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I forsee greater communication from the foundation in the future, thus I would push for addition to that criterion
(03/22/2009 02:21:43 PM) BlueBottle: fmccor, tsunam ^^
(03/22/2009 02:22:14 PM) fmccor|home: Fine with me. I thought we already had it?
(03/22/2009 02:22:16 PM) BlueBottle: quantumsummers, me too, so we can change the critera
(03/22/2009 02:22:35 PM) jmbsvicetto: 63 out of 206
(03/22/2009 02:22:38 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: BlueBottle: sounds good
(03/22/2009 02:22:51 PM) tsunam: sure
(03/22/2009 02:22:51 PM) BlueBottle: fmccor, it was changed to 'as determined by the trustees from time to time'
(03/22/2009 02:23:07 PM) fmccor|home: My mistake.
(03/22/2009 02:23:16 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: BlueBottle: that is the nice thing, its up to the board
(03/22/2009 02:23:49 PM) BlueBottle: It will apply from this election, so the first members dropped will be after the 2010 election
(03/22/2009 02:24:08 PM) BlueBottle: can we have a vote please
(03/22/2009 02:24:32 PM) fmccor|home: Yes.
(03/22/2009 02:24:40 PM) BlueBottle: yes
(03/22/2009 02:24:40 PM) jmbsvicetto: fmccor|home: when you get to the AOB, please ping me (about that qt license issue)
(03/22/2009 02:24:50 PM) BlueBottle: tsunam, ^^
(03/22/2009 02:24:56 PM) tsunam: I'm fine with it
(03/22/2009 02:25:10 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: vote recorded, all in favor
(03/22/2009 02:25:30 PM) BlueBottle: carried. quantumsummers add it to the SOP please
(03/22/2009 02:25:47 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: BlueBottle: done
(03/22/2009 02:25:51 PM) fmccor|home: jmbsvicetto, What qt license issue? Did I miss something?
(03/22/2009 02:26:16 PM) BlueBottle: Open Bugs Assigned to Trustees * 217511 The Gentoo Store is Out of Date - musikc
(03/22/2009 02:26:20 PM) ***fmccor|home frequently does.
(03/22/2009 02:26:31 PM) BlueBottle: musikc, comprookie2000 ??
(03/22/2009 02:27:22 PM) mode (+v mpagano ) by ChanServ
(03/22/2009 02:27:29 PM) BlueBottle: moving on ..
(03/22/2009 02:27:36 PM) BlueBottle: 224689 Request for Reimbusement for legal fees to lawyer
(03/22/2009 02:27:38 PM) comprookie2000: we have been talking and I posted a topic on the forums for suggestions
(03/22/2009 02:27:43 PM) jmbsvicetto: fmccor|home: The issue in the dev ml (perforce client proper license)
(03/22/2009 02:27:51 PM) tsunam: any reimbusement is fixed once we have a bank
(03/22/2009 02:27:52 PM) BlueBottle: tsunam, have you paid yourself /
(03/22/2009 02:27:58 PM) tsunam: short answer is no
(03/22/2009 02:27:59 PM) BlueBottle: ok
(03/22/2009 02:28:26 PM) BlueBottle: comprookie2000, I'll check the thread later ... it sounds like progress
(03/22/2009 02:28:43 PM) comprookie2000: also updated the bug with some info
(03/22/2009 02:28:56 PM) BlueBottle: comprookie2000, thanks
(03/22/2009 02:29:05 PM) comprookie2000: np
(03/22/2009 02:29:15 PM) BlueBottle: 234705 Document of being an active developer. I thhink this can be closwed
(03/22/2009 02:29:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: comprookie2000: you might add a link to the forum post on the bug
(03/22/2009 02:29:40 PM) comprookie2000: Ok
(03/22/2009 02:30:05 PM) BlueBottle: comprookie2000, I'll sticky the forums thread ...
(03/22/2009 02:30:16 PM) BlueBottle: 245227 budget limit for infra repairs
(03/22/2009 02:30:53 PM) BlueBottle: any progress ?
(03/22/2009 02:30:55 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: having chatted with robbat, Ramereth, solar, & fox2mike, this will be rather fluid.
(03/22/2009 02:31:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: they liked the idea of a budget, but non could agree on an amount
(03/22/2009 02:31:51 PM) BlueBottle: quantumsummers, add up all the estimates and devide by the number of estimators = budget
(03/22/2009 02:32:10 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I would think that $1K would do it, as that would cover the cost of the expensive parts like raid controllers
(03/22/2009 02:32:20 PM) BlueBottle: we just need a number and some rational
(03/22/2009 02:32:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: likely it would be smaller purchases like HDDs
(03/22/2009 02:32:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: both robbat & solar have some ideas regarding infra spending
(03/22/2009 02:33:01 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: some new servers, etc
(03/22/2009 02:33:05 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: esp git.g.o
(03/22/2009 02:33:12 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: that one will cost some $$$
(03/22/2009 02:33:41 PM) BlueBottle: quantumsummers, we could say that purchases of replacement parts are ok and not set a number ... it leaves us wide open to a bad year
(03/22/2009 02:33:58 PM) BlueBottle: new kit is excluded
(03/22/2009 02:34:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: sure, I had suggested $1K/month availability
(03/22/2009 02:34:20 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: they seemed amenable
(03/22/2009 02:34:29 PM) BlueBottle: needs more work ....
(03/22/2009 02:34:45 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, I will talk to them some more
(03/22/2009 02:34:56 PM) BlueBottle: 253491 Gentoo Store - Add Case stickers, badges
(03/22/2009 02:35:17 PM) BlueBottle: comprookie2000, if its fixed, my apologies
(03/22/2009 02:36:06 PM) comprookie2000: in progress
(03/22/2009 02:36:11 PM) BlueBottle: moving on ...
(03/22/2009 02:36:19 PM) BlueBottle: 254588 Possible confusion over use of the Gentoo Penguin (Quicktime Penguin) Logo
(03/22/2009 02:36:33 PM) BlueBottle: can we close this now ?
(03/22/2009 02:36:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I think that is taken care of
(03/22/2009 02:36:42 PM) BlueBottle: fmccor, quantumsummers ?
(03/22/2009 02:37:20 PM) BlueBottle: ok. I'll make up a test page and close the bug if its fixed
(03/22/2009 02:37:27 PM) fmccor|home: I think so, too.
(03/22/2009 02:37:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: neysx has added it
(03/22/2009 02:37:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: the icon that is
(03/22/2009 02:38:02 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: icon-penguin.png
(03/22/2009 02:38:08 PM) BlueBottle: 255274 Funding request: SATA HDD for superh development board
Arfrever armin76
(03/22/2009 02:38:16 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: armin76: ^^
(03/22/2009 02:38:19 PM) tsunam: same as above
(03/22/2009 02:38:22 PM) BlueBottle: armin76, tsunam ^^
(03/22/2009 02:38:36 PM) BlueBottle: needs a bank ?
(03/22/2009 02:38:39 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(03/22/2009 02:38:42 PM) tsunam: bank account will free up the ability to send money
(03/22/2009 02:38:51 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: unless someone can buy it & be reimbursed
(03/22/2009 02:39:01 PM) tsunam: basically paypal's being a pain in the arse :(
(03/22/2009 02:39:05 PM) BlueBottle: 261785 transfer gentoo.be from Sejo to the Gentoo Foundation, Inc.
(03/22/2009 02:39:08 PM) tsunam: my understanding is that it's already bought
(03/22/2009 02:39:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: BlueBottle: that bug is closed
(03/22/2009 02:39:23 PM) fmccor|home: So I heard
(03/22/2009 02:39:30 PM) BlueBottle: quantumsummers, thanks
(03/22/2009 02:39:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: np
(03/22/2009 02:40:15 PM) BlueBottle: 262356 Gentoo not allowed to receive money via Paypal anymore
(03/22/2009 02:40:25 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: waiting on bank account
(03/22/2009 02:40:28 PM) BlueBottle: tsunam, I guess it needs a bank
(03/22/2009 02:40:40 PM) tsunam: yep
(03/22/2009 02:40:41 PM) tsunam: :(
(03/22/2009 02:40:44 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: had a nice talk with a dude over there
(03/22/2009 02:40:54 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: everythin else is in line
(03/22/2009 02:41:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: just need the bank
(03/22/2009 02:41:20 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers: said they just stored all the other information in a funky place so didn't realize it
(03/22/2009 02:41:29 PM) tsunam: there's a link for them in the system that points to that other information
(03/22/2009 02:41:41 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: which should be really close ... yes that is correct
(03/22/2009 02:42:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: anyone on the board want to be on the account?
(03/22/2009 02:42:14 PM) fmccor|home: No.
(03/22/2009 02:42:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: :)
(03/22/2009 02:42:25 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok
(03/22/2009 02:42:45 PM) BlueBottle: Membership Applications ... Developers drizzt shadow
(03/22/2009 02:42:56 PM) BlueBottle: All in favour ...
(03/22/2009 02:42:59 PM) BlueBottle: yes
(03/22/2009 02:43:02 PM) fmccor|home: Yes to all.
(03/22/2009 02:43:17 PM) BlueBottle: tsunam, ^^
(03/22/2009 02:43:19 PM) tsunam: yep
(03/22/2009 02:43:31 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: new members recorded
(03/22/2009 02:43:32 PM) BlueBottle: Membership Applications ... Users Edit21
(03/22/2009 02:43:34 PM) BlueBottle: yes
(03/22/2009 02:43:50 PM) fmccor|home: Yes, on your recommendation. :)
(03/22/2009 02:44:13 PM) BlueBottle: tsunam, ?
(03/22/2009 02:44:19 PM) tsunam: its fine with me
(03/22/2009 02:44:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: new member recorded
(03/22/2009 02:44:32 PM) BlueBottle: Welcome to out 3 new members
(03/22/2009 02:44:34 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: what's his email?
(03/22/2009 02:44:55 PM) BlueBottle: quantumsummers, it was in his application iirc
(03/22/2009 02:45:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: BlueBottle: ah yes, got it
(03/22/2009 02:45:53 PM) BlueBottle: Annual General Meeting Planning ... our next meeting will be the AGM
(03/22/2009 02:46:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: big one :)
(03/22/2009 02:46:20 PM) BlueBottle: we will need reports from officers ...
(03/22/2009 02:46:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: indeed
(03/22/2009 02:46:34 PM) tsunam: k
(03/22/2009 02:46:42 PM) fmccor|home: Could we make this a single topic planning session?
(03/22/2009 02:47:00 PM) ***fmccor|home is running short of time.
(03/22/2009 02:47:10 PM) BlueBottle: fmccor, when ? the AGM will be April 12th ?
(03/22/2009 02:47:11 PM) fmccor|home: Apologies.
(03/22/2009 02:48:01 PM) BlueBottle: it will be welcome the new trustees and accept the officers reports
(03/22/2009 02:48:13 PM) BlueBottle: then aob
(03/22/2009 02:48:34 PM) BlueBottle: We dont have auditors and remumeration to conside
(03/22/2009 02:48:36 PM) fmccor|home: Easy enough, then.
(03/22/2009 02:48:49 PM) BlueBottle: yeah - if we do the prep
(03/22/2009 02:49:18 PM) BlueBottle: Date of Next Meeting - Sunday 12 April 2009 1900 UTC Annual General Meeting
(03/22/2009 02:49:41 PM) BlueBottle: Is that ok for everyone ?
(03/22/2009 02:49:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(03/22/2009 02:49:49 PM) tsunam: don't see a problem with it for me
(03/22/2009 02:49:55 PM) BlueBottle: ping jmbsvicetto
(03/22/2009 02:49:58 PM) BlueBottle: fmccor, ?
(03/22/2009 02:50:02 PM) fmccor|home: I'll outline my report for review. It's all legal stuff and will put everyone to sleep.
(03/22/2009 02:50:09 PM) BlueBottle: hehe
(03/22/2009 02:50:16 PM) jmbsvicetto: pong
(03/22/2009 02:50:32 PM) BlueBottle: Any Other Business
(03/22/2009 02:50:36 PM) BlueBottle: jmbsvicetto,
(03/22/2009 02:50:38 PM) fmccor|home: Should be fine. That's what --- two weeks?
(03/22/2009 02:50:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: 3
(03/22/2009 02:50:52 PM) jmbsvicetto: ok, how involved do you guys want to be with licensing issues in the tree?
(03/22/2009 02:51:27 PM) fmccor|home: Only if we're in violation, I think.
(03/22/2009 02:51:33 PM) jmbsvicetto: I don't know if you read hwoarang's mail to the dev ml about the perforce license
(03/22/2009 02:51:41 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: not I
(03/22/2009 02:51:46 PM) jmbsvicetto: fmccor|home: ok, but who can determine that? ;)
(03/22/2009 02:51:47 PM) fmccor|home: No.
(03/22/2009 02:51:50 PM) BlueBottle: jmbsvicetto, The only ones I'm aware of are some no free fonts and a crypto app licence
(03/22/2009 02:52:14 PM) jmbsvicetto: Oh and then there's also that thread by luke-jr about having deps on non-free licenses in the tree
(03/22/2009 02:52:56 PM) BlueBottle: jmbsvicetto, we need to be aware of them all, the writ will land here
(03/22/2009 02:53:02 PM) fmccor|home: The crypto app license is fine, as long as we force the users to fetch source themselves. The ebuild is broken, though.
(03/22/2009 02:53:05 PM) tsunam: yep it will
(03/22/2009 02:53:13 PM) jmbsvicetto: Part of luke-jr mail was about kdelibs having a dep on deja-vu (a Gentoo dep and not upstream dep) and his conviction that deja-vu doesn't have an open-source license because you can't seel the font
(03/22/2009 02:53:41 PM) jmbsvicetto: Is there anyone we can ask to "clarify" issues with licenses?
(03/22/2009 02:53:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: seel?
(03/22/2009 02:53:54 PM) jmbsvicetto: sorry, s/seel/sell/
(03/22/2009 02:53:58 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ah
(03/22/2009 02:54:35 PM) jmbsvicetto: As the KDE lead, I would like to get an "informed" opinion about both licenses
(03/22/2009 02:54:35 PM) fmccor|home: jmbsvicetto, Start with me. I can actually read those things.
(03/22/2009 02:54:42 PM) jmbsvicetto: ok
(03/22/2009 02:54:53 PM) BlueBottle: we probably need a bug about non-free licences
(03/22/2009 02:54:56 PM) jmbsvicetto: Ferris, in that case I'll talk to you after the meeting about it
(03/22/2009 02:55:17 PM) BlueBottle: we need a record of what happens
(03/22/2009 02:55:25 PM) jmbsvicetto: A general question, should we (is there any interest in that?) do an "audit" of licenses in the tree?
(03/22/2009 02:55:34 PM) BlueBottle: Any more 'other business' ?
(03/22/2009 02:55:37 PM) fmccor|home: Not today, I'm afraid. I'm really out of time. Family issues came up.
(03/22/2009 02:55:42 PM) jmbsvicetto: fmccor|home: sure
(03/22/2009 02:55:50 PM) jmbsvicetto: fmccor|home: poke me when you're available, please
(03/22/2009 02:55:56 PM) BlueBottle: Open Floor ...
(03/22/2009 02:56:05 PM) fmccor|home: Should be tomorrow.
(03/22/2009 02:56:42 PM) ***BlueBottle declares the meeting closed
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<b>Time and Venue</b>
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<b>Sunday, 22 March 2009 1900 UTC on irc.freenode.net #gentoo-trustees</b>
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<li>Introductions</li>
<li>Actions From the Last Meeting
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<li>Gentoo Foundation Banking - tsunam</li>
<li>Certified Public Accountant - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Send friendly cease and desist emails to copyright infringers spotted on cafepress - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Treasurers Report for FY ending 30 June 2008</li>
<li>Foundation Knowledge Management Needs - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Trustee Elections 2009</li>
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<li>Open Bugs Assigned to Trustees
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<li>217511 The Gentoo Store is Out of Date - musikc</li>
<li>224689 Request for Reimbusement for legal fees to lawyer</li>
<li>234705 Document of being an active developer</li>
<li>245227 budget limit for infra repairs</li>
<li>253491 Gentoo Store - Add Case stickers, badges</li>
<li>254588 Possible confusion over use of the Gentoo Penguin (Quicktime Penguin) Logo</li>
<li>255274 Funding request: SATA HDD for superh development board</li>
<li>261785 transfer gentoo.be from Sejo to the Gentoo Foundation, Inc. </li>
<li>262356 Gentoo not allowed to receive money via Paypal anymore</li>
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<li>Actions From Previous Meetings on hold for one or more actions above
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<li>Trustees and Foundation Article For the GMN - (On hold while we are under strenght)</li>
<li>Working with Gentoo e.V. - fmccor (On hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V. meeting)</li>
<li>Licencing For emtom.cz - quantumsummers (On hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V meeting)</li>
<li>Licencing For Projektfarm GmbH - quantumsummers (On Hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V meeting)</li>
<li>Fix name and address on IPR/trademark documents, 31 Aug 2008 meeting authorised the $200 fees - fmccor</li>
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<li>Membership Applications - if you have applied and you are not listed below, please remind the trustees
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<li>Gentoo Developers
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<li>drizzt</li>
<li>shadow</li>
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<li>Community Members
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<li>edit21</li>
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<li>Annual General Meeting Planning</li>
<li>Date of Next Meeting - Sunday 12 April 2009 1900 UTC <b>Annual General Meeting</b></li>
<li>Any other business</li>
<li>Open floor</li>
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point may be covered during the discussion anyway.
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Do not expect to bring up items in Any Other Business and get an instant response. Calm considered well
reasoned emails to <mail link="trustees@gentoo.org">the trustees</mail> or opening a bug are the best ways
to bring up new ideas.
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<b>Record Keeping</b>
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(04/11/2009 02:00:37 PM) ***NeddySeagoon bangs his gavel to start the foundation AGM
(04/11/2009 02:01:02 PM) ***jmbsvicetto takes a back row seat
(04/11/2009 02:01:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda Item 1 Introduction of New Trustees
(04/11/2009 02:01:29 PM) NeddySeagoon: I would like to introduce quantumsummers and robbat2 as our two new
(04/11/2009 02:01:29 PM) NeddySeagoon: trustees and take this opportunity to thank dmwaters for repreasing her
(04/11/2009 02:01:29 PM) NeddySeagoon: trustees role.
(04/11/2009 02:02:10 PM) NeddySeagoon: I would also like to thank the other candiates for standing in this election
(04/11/2009 02:02:31 PM) armin76: tsunam: had, not anymore
(04/11/2009 02:02:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: At this time, I would like to porpose a vote of thanks to dmwaters_ ...
(04/11/2009 02:03:07 PM) tsunam: seconded
(04/11/2009 02:03:15 PM) NeddySeagoon: Vote please
(04/11/2009 02:03:18 PM) robbat2|na: aye
(04/11/2009 02:03:18 PM) fmccor: Yes.
(04/11/2009 02:03:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: aye
(04/11/2009 02:03:20 PM) tsunam: aye
(04/11/2009 02:03:23 PM) NeddySeagoon: aye
(04/11/2009 02:03:24 PM) robbat2|na is now known as robbat2
(04/11/2009 02:03:28 PM) NeddySeagoon: carried
(04/11/2009 02:03:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, would you care to say a few words ?
(04/11/2009 02:04:00 PM) robbat2: certainly
(04/11/2009 02:04:18 PM) robbat2: firstly, thanks to the electorate for their confidence in me.
(04/11/2009 02:04:29 PM) robbat2: i hope I can live up to it with my plans
(04/11/2009 02:04:44 PM) robbat2: which will be commencing in may after I return from my travels
(04/11/2009 02:05:01 PM) robbat2: thats all for now
(04/11/2009 02:05:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, you are no stranger to this channel care to say a few words about your extra workload ?
(04/11/2009 02:06:02 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: It would be a pleasure, thank you.
(04/11/2009 02:06:13 PM) NeddySeagoon: Not too many :)
(04/11/2009 02:06:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I simply wish to extend my gratitude to the Board for the privilege of serving as Secretary these past few months
(04/11/2009 02:06:56 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: And
(04/11/2009 02:07:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I wish to offer my thanks to the electorate for giving me the great honor of serving as a board member
(04/11/2009 02:08:14 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: My hope is to grow gentoo and make it stronger than ever.
(04/11/2009 02:08:38 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Please, wish the trustees luck in this endeavor.
(04/11/2009 02:08:49 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Thanks.
(04/11/2009 02:09:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: Thank you robbat2 and quantumsummers
(04/11/2009 02:09:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda Item 3 Officers Reports
(04/11/2009 02:09:48 PM) NeddySeagoon: First the Presidents' Report http://xrl.us/ben64s
(04/11/2009 02:10:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: We will have a few minutes for reading and I will take questions as they arise
(04/11/2009 02:12:26 PM) NeddySeagoon: Any questions ?
(04/11/2009 02:12:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: I propose the report is accepted as written
(04/11/2009 02:12:56 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Very nice report NeddySeagoon, no questions from me, thank you.
(04/11/2009 02:13:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I second
(04/11/2009 02:13:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: Thank you.
(04/11/2009 02:13:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: Vote please
(04/11/2009 02:13:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Votes?
(04/11/2009 02:13:23 PM) robbat2: aye, no questions here
(04/11/2009 02:13:23 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: aye
(04/11/2009 02:13:27 PM) tsunam: aye
(04/11/2009 02:14:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: thank you
(04/11/2009 02:14:29 PM) jmbsvicetto: NeddySeagoon: very good report
(04/11/2009 02:14:44 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, Secretarys' Report ... care to paste a link please
(04/11/2009 02:14:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: http://dev.gentoo.org/~quantumsummers/secretarys_report_2009.html
(04/11/2009 02:14:51 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto, thank you
(04/11/2009 02:15:10 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Questions and/or comments are welcome.
(04/11/2009 02:15:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: Same format ... reading time, questions and vote
(04/11/2009 02:15:52 PM) robbat2: quantumsummers, approximately how many (former) members were dropped due to being unable to reach them using the last emails on file?
(04/11/2009 02:16:50 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair looks
(04/11/2009 02:18:39 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers: From the 75 non-devs, 73 are ex-dev, correct?
(04/11/2009 02:18:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: there were 2 resignations, Four were dropped.
(04/11/2009 02:19:09 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, nobody was dropped from membership this election. members have to skip two consecutive elections to be dropped
(04/11/2009 02:19:43 PM) jmbsvicetto: NeddySeagoon: That is not part of the adopted bylaws
(04/11/2009 02:19:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: jmbsvicetto: as of the recording date for the election yes. However, since that date we now have 5 non-dev members
(04/11/2009 02:20:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, I expect that we will lose a lot of 'dead wood' after the next election.
(04/11/2009 02:20:05 PM) robbat2: to clarify, I mean dropped in the sense of we have no way to contact them
(04/11/2009 02:20:19 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: that is what I meant, 4
(04/11/2009 02:20:23 PM) jmbsvicetto: NeddySeagoon: The trustees may decided to terminate membership for lack of participation, but that particular rule was dropped from the approved bylaws
(04/11/2009 02:20:40 PM) jmbsvicetto: quantumsummers: That's good to hear :)
(04/11/2009 02:20:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: they were due to bounces with no other email on file
(04/11/2009 02:20:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto, the bylaws state 'as determied from time to time' and recently, thats what was determined. Its in the meeting logs this year
(04/11/2009 02:21:10 PM) robbat2: thanks. I just found that interesting to compare against the historical totals of devs (685) and the current number of devs (243)
(04/11/2009 02:21:35 PM) robbat2: no further questions from me
(04/11/2009 02:21:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: I think that is interesting as well, perhaps we should collab on this a bit to gather some stats
(04/11/2009 02:21:49 PM) jmbsvicetto: NeddySeagoon: oh, the election officials were looking for that but missed it. We'll add a note about it to our procedureus
(04/11/2009 02:22:28 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, do you want to add the Q&A to your report or should I propose it as clarified here ?
(04/11/2009 02:22:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: jmbsvicetto: its a standard operating procedure. These will be published when the nfp-web-app is available.
(04/11/2009 02:22:47 PM) jmbsvicetto: robbat2: I think between 2006 and 2008 no dev joined the Foundation - that means some people from 2005 onwards, never joined the foundation
(04/11/2009 02:22:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: jmbsvicetto, I'll find it for you after the meeting
(04/11/2009 02:23:07 PM) robbat2: jmbsvicetto, we'll review later, thanks
(04/11/2009 02:23:08 PM) jmbsvicetto: thanks
(04/11/2009 02:23:17 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, do you want to add the Q&A to your report or should I propose it as clarified here ?
(04/11/2009 02:23:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: I have no preference, I can add that in no problem
(04/11/2009 02:23:42 PM) tsunam: I would suggest ammending it to the report
(04/11/2009 02:23:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: very well, I will amend the report
(04/11/2009 02:24:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, OK, add it to the report please
(04/11/2009 02:24:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: I propose that the secrataries report is approved with the changes discussed above
(04/11/2009 02:24:42 PM) fmccor: second
(04/11/2009 02:24:48 PM) NeddySeagoon: Vote
(04/11/2009 02:24:51 PM) tsunam: aye
(04/11/2009 02:24:54 PM) robbat2: aye
(04/11/2009 02:24:54 PM) fmccor: aye
(04/11/2009 02:24:56 PM) NeddySeagoon: aye
(04/11/2009 02:24:56 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair abstains
(04/11/2009 02:25:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: Carried
(04/11/2009 02:25:18 PM) NeddySeagoon: The follow up will be at next months meeting
(04/11/2009 02:25:49 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I will have the changes made before the end of this meeting
(04/11/2009 02:26:01 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, The treasurers report please
(04/11/2009 02:26:03 PM) tsunam: http://dev.gentoo.org/~tsunam/Treasures_report.html
(04/11/2009 02:26:32 PM) tsunam: Note: this covers the first 3 quarters of the fiscal year as our fiscal year is not over yet
(04/11/2009 02:27:18 PM) robbat2: no questions from me
(04/11/2009 02:27:55 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: tsunam: Do you have an estimate regarding the funds outstanding, i.e. checks that Grant has?
(04/11/2009 02:28:32 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers: Outside of the netbank account. it is approximately 2k USD from cafepress for the store
(04/11/2009 02:28:50 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: tsunam: what is the amount on the Netbank?
(04/11/2009 02:29:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: also, we need the GSoC $$ from last year, now that we have a bank. :)\
(04/11/2009 02:29:22 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers: I would have to review the transfers from paypal to come up with an exact value, and even then I'm not entirely positive that is accurate
(04/11/2009 02:29:28 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers: correct
(04/11/2009 02:29:58 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Perhaps also note that we do not need to file taxes this year due to making <$25K
(04/11/2009 02:30:02 PM) tsunam: I would prefer to contact ING and discuss it with them to find the actual proper ammount without guessing
(04/11/2009 02:30:10 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: tsunam: understood
(04/11/2009 02:30:25 PM) robbat2: when I was reviewing the financial reports previously, i'd estimate it at exceeding $10k.
(04/11/2009 02:30:34 PM) tsunam: robbat2: I would concur
(04/11/2009 02:30:34 PM) robbat2: by how much, i am uncertain
(04/11/2009 02:30:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I would estimate >$20K
(04/11/2009 02:31:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: lets not guess in public. tsunam can you ask grant for the value on the face of the cheque ?
(04/11/2009 02:31:26 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers: I don't believe it is that much, but once I contact ING and find out what we have to do to retrieve that money I will provide a report about the value
(04/11/2009 02:31:49 PM) tsunam: NeddySeagoon: I will contact grant again concerning the checks again
(04/11/2009 02:31:54 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: tsunam: indeed, thanks
(04/11/2009 02:32:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, ok ... care to give a date for contacting ING ?
(04/11/2009 02:32:20 PM) tsunam: I hope to be able to begin talks this month
(04/11/2009 02:32:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok ... a topic for next months meeting then
(04/11/2009 02:32:44 PM) tsunam: with the actual Capital one bank, it should prove easier to cordinate with ING for that
(04/11/2009 02:32:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: yep
(04/11/2009 02:33:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, as we seem to be updating reports, will you take the Q&A into your report pleasse
(04/11/2009 02:33:33 PM) tsunam: will do
(04/11/2009 02:34:14 PM) NeddySeagoon: Thin I propose the treaurers report is accepted after the amendments discussed above
(04/11/2009 02:34:19 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: seconded
(04/11/2009 02:34:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: then*
(04/11/2009 02:34:23 PM) robbat2: aye
(04/11/2009 02:34:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: Vote
(04/11/2009 02:34:26 PM) fmccor: aye
(04/11/2009 02:34:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: aye
(04/11/2009 02:34:28 PM) NeddySeagoon: aye
(04/11/2009 02:34:30 PM) tsunam: abstain
(04/11/2009 02:34:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: Carried
(04/11/2009 02:34:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: 4 Membership Applications ... we have none to consuder
(04/11/2009 02:35:13 PM) NeddySeagoon: 5 Any other business ...
(04/11/2009 02:35:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, ?
(04/11/2009 02:35:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, ?
(04/11/2009 02:35:56 PM) robbat2: nothing i'm ready to raise. it's on hold with me until I'm done with my travels this month (away april 17-29)
(04/11/2009 02:36:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, you could post it to trustees@ to give us a heads up
(04/11/2009 02:36:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, ?
(04/11/2009 02:36:35 PM) fmccor: I should mention two items which are ongoing.
(04/11/2009 02:37:06 PM) robbat2: NeddySeagoon, i'll do so
(04/11/2009 02:37:20 PM) fmccor: First, we have an application from a group in Kazakhstan for them to be our sales outlet there.
(04/11/2009 02:37:55 PM) fmccor: In principle, this is fine, and we are just waiting for a Russian speaker to review their site (at the advice of our lawyer).
(04/11/2009 02:38:15 PM) fmccor: I believe this is underway, but I'll follow up this week.
(04/11/2009 02:39:30 PM) fmccor: Second, Gentoo e.V. still holds our trademark in the EU. I have not heard what they want to do, but I think after reading what everyone has said and thinking about it, that is probably better for us than the alternative (taking it over).
(04/11/2009 02:39:53 PM) fmccor: That all depends on Gentoo e.V., of course.
(04/11/2009 02:40:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: Their meeting is overdue
(04/11/2009 02:40:12 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: dertobi123: any comments on the above?
(04/11/2009 02:40:21 PM) fmccor: Yes, but it is out of our control.
(04/11/2009 02:40:36 PM) dertobi123: quantumsummers: not really, besides we're still slacking on that
(04/11/2009 02:40:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, I understand
(04/11/2009 02:41:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: dertobi123: is there any consensus from anyone regarding the future of Gentoo e.V.?
(04/11/2009 02:41:40 PM) dertobi123: quantumsummers: somewhat yes, somewhat no
(04/11/2009 02:42:06 PM) dertobi123: somehow people want to keep the Gentoo e.V., but when it comes to actively working on that ...
(04/11/2009 02:42:19 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: dertobi123: perhaps the trustees here can assist in some way, would you & your comrades be amenable to a discussion?
(04/11/2009 02:43:11 PM) dertobi123: i am, i can try to get others for that discussion, too
(04/11/2009 02:43:38 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: dertobi123: I think that could be very productive
(04/11/2009 02:44:19 PM) dertobi123: agreed
(04/11/2009 02:44:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: dertobi123, would you care to propose a date/time/venue for a joint meeting ?
(04/11/2009 02:44:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: it seems good to maintain Gentoo e.V., but perhaps fold the work of maintenance into the existing Gentoo Foundation.
(04/11/2009 02:45:02 PM) fmccor: ?
(04/11/2009 02:45:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, thats what the meeting needs to decide
(04/11/2009 02:45:13 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(04/11/2009 02:45:29 PM) dertobi123: NeddySeagoon: i can mail our members, suggest some dates on weekends in may and we can agree on a date which works for both of us best then
(04/11/2009 02:45:47 PM) dertobi123: quantumsummers: in my personal opinion i have to agree on that
(04/11/2009 02:45:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: dertobi123, sounds like a plan.
(04/11/2009 02:45:56 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: this might be a good time to use that scheduling tool
(04/11/2009 02:46:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: care to set up a link?
(04/11/2009 02:46:10 PM) dertobi123: hrm
(04/11/2009 02:46:13 PM) dertobi123: yeah
(04/11/2009 02:46:22 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, AoB from you ?
(04/11/2009 02:46:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: what is AoB?
(04/11/2009 02:46:47 PM) NeddySeagoon: Any Other Business
(04/11/2009 02:47:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: oh, heh.
(04/11/2009 02:47:16 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Not that I can think of atm.
(04/11/2009 02:47:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: I have one item.
(04/11/2009 02:47:42 PM) robbat2: quantumsummers, http://www.scheduleonce.com/Timezone-tool.aspx <--- go and start there, best if the person organizing does it. so that they get the right link to see it
(04/11/2009 02:48:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: Date of next meeting. I propose 17 May at 19:00 UTC, being the Sunday after the council meeting
(04/11/2009 02:48:43 PM) fmccor: Should work for me.
(04/11/2009 02:48:51 PM) NeddySeagoon: Oh, I will propose a meetings calander on trustess@ too
(04/11/2009 02:49:13 PM) tsunam: I will be traveling in may/june possibly (no dates yet) for work. Original date would be during the week of the 17th but that is not looking likely
(04/11/2009 02:49:19 PM) tsunam: so that should work for me
(04/11/2009 02:49:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam, robbat2 quantumsummers ^^
(04/11/2009 02:49:32 PM) robbat2: may 17th is fine for me
(04/11/2009 02:49:38 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: yes, that is good
(04/11/2009 02:49:47 PM) tsunam: I'll keep everyone advised if that date shouldn't work for me
(04/11/2009 02:49:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agreed than.
(04/11/2009 02:50:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agenda Item 6 Open floor
(04/11/2009 02:50:23 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: dertobi123: will you CC trustees@g.o on the email you send please
(04/11/2009 02:51:23 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, I would rather see a translation ... my German is zero
(04/11/2009 02:51:36 PM) tanderson: During the election my irc nick was expected for my vote(tanderson). That's not my gentoo account though. Could someone fix that on the trustees list?
(04/11/2009 02:52:22 PM) dertobi123: NeddySeagoon: might make some more sense, yeah
(04/11/2009 02:52:26 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: same, perhaps we can tap someone from the German conspiracy to assist with translation
(04/11/2009 02:52:33 PM) tsunam: hehe, I'll be fine. I can read german
(04/11/2009 02:52:37 PM) tsunam: fairly well
(04/11/2009 02:52:42 PM) ***fmccor can read German
(04/11/2009 02:52:49 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, you mean like dertobi123 :)
(04/11/2009 02:53:00 PM) dertobi123: seids ihr da sicher, jungs?
(04/11/2009 02:53:01 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yepper do
(04/11/2009 02:53:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: achtung baby?
(04/11/2009 02:53:21 PM) fmccor: Ja, so bin ich.
(04/11/2009 02:53:28 PM) tsunam: hehe
(04/11/2009 02:53:35 PM) dertobi123: fmccor: -so ;)
(04/11/2009 02:53:36 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: jawol
(04/11/2009 02:53:37 PM) tsunam: quantumsummers: he asked if you were sure
(04/11/2009 02:53:44 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ja
(04/11/2009 02:53:48 PM) dertobi123: heh
(04/11/2009 02:54:02 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: all my german I learned from the game enemy territory
(04/11/2009 02:54:28 PM) tsunam: note: don't have quantumsummers be a translator for german, unless we want to go to war
(04/11/2009 02:54:28 PM) dertobi123: only thing i remember from enemy territory is "need a medic"
(04/11/2009 02:54:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, well, mine is from reading wine bottles
(04/11/2009 02:54:44 PM) tsunam: think it might be time to call the meeting to an end though
(04/11/2009 02:54:46 PM) robbat2: besser als mein Deutsch
(04/11/2009 02:54:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: Agreed.
(04/11/2009 02:54:57 PM) tanderson: During the election my irc nick was expected for my vote(tanderson). That's not my gentoo account though. Could someone fix that on the trustees list?
(04/11/2009 02:55:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: dertobi123: lol, that is all my wife thinks about when I play fps ... need a medic over & over again
(04/11/2009 02:55:03 PM) ***NeddySeagoon declares the meeting closed
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<!DOCTYPE news SYSTEM "/dtd/guide.dtd">
<news gentoo="yes" category="plans">
<!-- Enter your name here -->
<poster>NeddySeagoon</poster>
<!-- Date to be displayed - usually the GWN release date -->
<date>2009-03-25</date>
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<title>Gentoo Trustees Annual General Meeting - Sunday, 12 April 2009</title>
<body>
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<p>
<b>Time and Venue</b>
</p>
<p></p>
<p>
<b>Sunday, 12 April 2009 1900 UTC on irc.freenode.net #gentoo-trustees</b>
</p>
<p></p>
<p>
This meeting is the only public meeting the board of the Gentoo Foundation is obliged to hold
</p>
<p>
Normal meeting business is suspended.
</p>
<p>
<b>Agenda</b>
</p>
<ol>
<li>Introduction of New Trustees</li>
<li>Thanks to retiring trustee</li>
<li>Officers Reports
<ul>
<li>Presidents' Report</li>
<li>Secretarys' Report</li>
<li>Treasuers' Report</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Membership Applications - if you have applied and you are not listed below, please remind the trustees
<ul>
<li>Gentoo Developers
<ul>
<li></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Community Members
<ul>
<li></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Any other business</li>
<li>Open floor</li>
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<p>
<b>Meeting Conduct</b>
</p>
<p>
The channel will be open (not moderated) during the meeting unless there is so much chatter it becomes impossible to
make progress.
</p>
<p>
Attendees can help by keeping questions to the end of an agenda item or the end of the meeting - your
point may be covered during the discussion anyway.
</p>
<p>
Do not expect to bring up items in Any Other Business and get an instant response. Calm considered well
reasoned emails to <mail link="trustees@gentoo.org">the trustees</mail> or opening a bug are the best ways
to bring up new ideas.
</p>
<p>
<b>Record Keeping</b>
</p>
<p>
The meeting will be logged and both the <uri link="http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/minutes/">full log and a summary</uri>
of decisions will be made publicaly available
</p>
</body>
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(05/17/2009 02:00:38 PM) fmccor: OK. Let's start. tsunam is on vacation and
Toy is out collecting speeding tickets, so I guess we have robbat2
quantumsummers and me.
(05/17/2009 02:00:46 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, here?
(05/17/2009 02:01:25 PM) fmccor: Maybe we have quantumsummers ?
(05/17/2009 02:02:28 PM) fmccor: (Can't start until he checks back in.)
(05/17/2009 02:02:32 PM) MinnieBannister: I'm here sort of
(05/17/2009 02:02:45 PM) fmccor: MinnieBannister, meeting is now yours.
(05/17/2009 02:03:22 PM) MinnieBannister: my main display has packed up and I
only have ssh to my logger
(05/17/2009 02:03:32 PM) MinnieBannister: fmccor: please run the meeting
(05/17/2009 02:03:46 PM) fmccor: OK, do you count as here?
(05/17/2009 02:04:05 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers was here an hour ago but seems
to have disappeared.
(05/17/2009 02:04:29 PM) MinnieBannister: yes. I don't have any GUI, so I can't
see the agenda but I can take part in discussion
(05/17/2009 02:05:08 PM) fmccor: First item is updated treasurer report, which
tsunam supplied last week.
(05/17/2009 02:05:15 PM) MinnieBannister: GNOME won't start on the netbook :(
(05/17/2009 02:05:33 PM) fmccor: Hm.
(05/17/2009 02:06:09 PM) MinnieBannister: fmccor: I've read it. Hes made the
corretions the meeting asked. I move that it be adopted
(05/17/2009 02:06:31 PM) fmccor: second
(05/17/2009 02:06:36 PM) fmccor: robbat2, ?
(05/17/2009 02:06:40 PM) robbat2: i'm around
(05/17/2009 02:06:47 PM) robbat2: no objections to it
(05/17/2009 02:06:55 PM) fmccor: As to the motion, any comments?
(05/17/2009 02:07:01 PM) robbat2: none
(05/17/2009 02:07:05 PM) fmccor: Vote:
(05/17/2009 02:07:08 PM) ***fmccor yes
(05/17/2009 02:07:10 PM) robbat2: yes
(05/17/2009 02:07:15 PM) MinnieBannister: yes
(05/17/2009 02:07:33 PM) fmccor: OK, it's accepted as submitted.
(05/17/2009 02:07:57 PM) MinnieBannister: it needs to get into the foundation
webspace
(05/17/2009 02:08:45 PM) fmccor: Yes, I'd expect tsunam or quantumsummers to put
it there.
(05/17/2009 02:08:51 PM) MinnieBannister: yep
(05/17/2009 02:09:05 PM) fmccor: I don't know where he's off to.
(05/17/2009 02:10:09 PM) MinnieBannister: next item ?
(05/17/2009 02:10:21 PM) fmccor: While we're on money, tsunam also asks
cafepress funds be sent to him or direct deposit. I suggest we authorize him
to set that up.
(05/17/2009 02:10:24 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: hey hey, sorry I'm late
(05/17/2009 02:10:43 PM) fmccor: We've already given you one action item. :)
(05/17/2009 02:11:19 PM) fmccor: Unless there are objections, I move to
authorize tsunam to set that up with cafepress.
(05/17/2009 02:11:23 PM) MinnieBannister: fmccor: I prefer direct deposit as it
removes a single point of failure
(05/17/2009 02:11:48 PM) fmccor: I do too, it's just a matter of what cafepress
will do I think.
(05/17/2009 02:11:54 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: direct would be optimal
(05/17/2009 02:12:04 PM) robbat2: direct deposit if possible, otherwise switch
it to him
(05/17/2009 02:12:29 PM) fmccor: robbat2, I agree. Could you put that in form
of a motion, please?
(05/17/2009 02:13:03 PM) fmccor: Anyone?
(05/17/2009 02:13:07 PM) robbat2: Motion: cafepress fund transfers to be change
to direct deposit into the Gentoo Foundation bank account if possible, and if
not possible, to be sent to the current treasurer
(05/17/2009 02:13:13 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: second
(05/17/2009 02:13:21 PM) MinnieBannister: vote ... yes
(05/17/2009 02:13:22 PM) fmccor: Vote?
(05/17/2009 02:13:24 PM) robbat2: yes
(05/17/2009 02:13:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(05/17/2009 02:13:27 PM) ***fmccor yes
(05/17/2009 02:13:31 PM) fmccor: carried.
(05/17/2009 02:13:58 PM) fmccor: Next item. CPA --- quantumsummers
(05/17/2009 02:14:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: regarding previous action item,
I take it those need to be in guidexml
(05/17/2009 02:14:48 PM) fmccor: The treasurer's report? I suppose.
fmccor fmccor|away
(05/17/2009 02:15:23 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor as well as the sec
report, or are those fine in plain html?
(05/17/2009 02:15:35 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, You also have the knowledge
base item, so please do both at once.
(05/17/2009 02:15:48 PM) robbat2: ideally guidexml to merge with the rest of the
website, but they can be in plain html if there's no other choice
(05/17/2009 02:16:08 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: CPA, we are in good shape
there. 501c3 app is moving along, should have draft for approval by June
meeting
(05/17/2009 02:16:10 PM) robbat2: there's some toplevel script stuff that sucks
out titles from guidexml
(05/17/2009 02:16:24 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: I can guide 'em
(05/17/2009 02:16:34 PM) MinnieBannister: quantumsummers: leave them assss they
are - thats how they are/will be approved
(05/17/2009 02:17:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: MinnieBannister: as you wish.
(05/17/2009 02:17:50 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: any questions for the CPA or
regarding 1023 form?
(05/17/2009 02:18:03 PM) fmccor: Not I.
(05/17/2009 02:18:11 PM) robbat2: none from me
(05/17/2009 02:18:14 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I'll run it by the CPA before
submission, of course
(05/17/2009 02:18:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok
(05/17/2009 02:18:44 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, Is Knowledge Management still
targeted for June?
(05/17/2009 02:18:50 PM) MinnieBannister: quantumsummers: where is the form ?
(05/17/2009 02:19:34 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: MinnieBannister:
http://www.irs.gov/instructions/i1023/index.html
fmccor fmccor|away
(05/17/2009 02:20:01 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor: on target for June
deployment of KMS
(05/17/2009 02:20:12 PM) MinnieBannister: quantumsummers: Ah, I thought you were
refering to a completed form
(05/17/2009 02:20:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: MinnieBannister: I'm not
finished with it, only about 40%
(05/17/2009 02:20:40 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: its rather long
(05/17/2009 02:20:57 PM) fmccor: Fun.
(05/17/2009 02:21:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I think I can have it cleared
by CPA & presented to the board for June
(05/17/2009 02:21:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: approval & submission
(05/17/2009 02:21:28 PM) MinnieBannister: quantumsummers: take your time and get
it right
(05/17/2009 02:21:50 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: MinnieBannister: thanks, yes.
(05/17/2009 02:22:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I can pass the important stuff
around to you all if you want to assist in drafting sections
(05/17/2009 02:22:23 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: :)
(05/17/2009 02:22:34 PM) fmccor: Not really.
(05/17/2009 02:22:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: don't all jump up at once
(05/17/2009 02:22:38 PM) mode (+o NeddySeagoon ) by ChanServ
(05/17/2009 02:22:40 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: :D
(05/17/2009 02:22:58 PM) MinnieBannister: quantumsummers: As an outsider, I'm
interested
(05/17/2009 02:23:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: its cool, you will have to at
least read it before we vote on it
(05/17/2009 02:23:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: MinnieBannister: I can give
pretty fair directions on what is required
(05/17/2009 02:23:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: I have my main box going, so I'll swap
nicks here ...
(05/17/2009 02:23:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: beyond what the web site says
(05/17/2009 02:23:55 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, I need to understand it
to vote on it
(05/17/2009 02:24:00 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: nice work
(05/17/2009 02:24:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: yes, completely
understand
(05/17/2009 02:24:24 PM) fmccor: NeddySeagoon, you want the meeting now?
(05/17/2009 02:24:39 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, so if its at all possible I
will shoot to have some stuff for everyone to look at 2 weeks
(05/17/2009 02:24:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, no thanks ... just carry on
(05/17/2009 02:25:17 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, that will be good for me
and probably robbat2 as we are not US citizens
(05/17/2009 02:25:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: sounds good to
me, I think I can budget enough time to make that happen :)\
(05/17/2009 02:26:16 PM) fmccor: OK, next item is treasurer's report for FY
ending June 2008. I haven't a clue on that and suggest we defer it for tsunam
unless someone knows.
(05/17/2009 02:27:06 PM) fmccor: Anyone?
(05/17/2009 02:27:14 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I thought that was what he
presented at the AGM
(05/17/2009 02:27:18 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, I suggest we scrap it, as its
almost June 2009 and roll it into one report
(05/17/2009 02:27:38 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: oh, whoops 2008__8__
(05/17/2009 02:27:38 PM) fmccor: That's fine with me.
(05/17/2009 02:27:40 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, our FY ends om 30 June.
(05/17/2009 02:27:51 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, I don't know, really.
(05/17/2009 02:28:22 PM) robbat2: the submitted one from before was up to March
31st
(05/17/2009 02:28:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: The original idea was to be able to
present accounts in July but with the banking issues, it didn't happen
(05/17/2009 02:28:35 PM) robbat2: he hasn't submitted the june info at all afaik
(05/17/2009 02:28:59 PM) fmccor: robbat2, What do you suggest?
(05/17/2009 02:29:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, was that march 31 08 or 09 ?
(05/17/2009 02:29:04 PM) robbat2: postpone
(05/17/2009 02:29:11 PM) robbat2: i'm not sure
(05/17/2009 02:29:15 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I'm planning to work with Josh
to get the data aggregated
(05/17/2009 02:29:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: I can go with postpone
(05/17/2009 02:29:28 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: postpone is fine with me
(05/17/2009 02:29:45 PM) fmccor: Done --- we'll keep it on the agenda.
(05/17/2009 02:30:09 PM) fmccor: (Don't think we need a motion to carry
something over.)
(05/17/2009 02:30:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: nope
(05/17/2009 02:30:38 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, Any more on knowledge
management?
(05/17/2009 02:30:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: since the next thing is
mine,... I have now written & tested some code for tracking all the IP
infringers, and hook into gpgme to send the freakin emails to them. This way we
can easily track what has been done & their responses, etc. I will begin
sending these out on Monday, please be aware that you will have several emails
in your box due to this
(05/17/2009 02:31:01 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: this code will be integrated
into the KMS
(05/17/2009 02:31:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: same system I used to send out
the emails to all members
(05/17/2009 02:31:38 PM) fmccor: Sorry, I missed you when I moved on to
treasurer. :)
(05/17/2009 02:31:38 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: which will also be available
(05/17/2009 02:32:16 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, thanks.
(05/17/2009 02:32:23 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: its ok, I need to take some
responsibility for not getting the IP stuff done, this will take care of it
permanently
(05/17/2009 02:32:43 PM) fmccor: Yes, good thing.
(05/17/2009 02:32:58 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: is it possible to
connect to a db on our infra via ssh tunnel?
(05/17/2009 02:33:20 PM) robbat2: which box?
(05/17/2009 02:33:29 PM) robbat2: the one I was going to give you for running
the KMS?
(05/17/2009 02:33:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: doesn't matter, I meant in
principle
(05/17/2009 02:33:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: or that yes
(05/17/2009 02:33:47 PM) robbat2: if the db is on our machines yes
(05/17/2009 02:33:52 PM) robbat2: if it's on the OSL db servers, no
(05/17/2009 02:34:25 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: basically, this email script
needs to have remote db access to hook into local gpg
(05/17/2009 02:34:47 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: or run the mail locally somehow
& have whoever sending sign it
(05/17/2009 02:35:01 PM) robbat2: we'll work out something
(05/17/2009 02:35:08 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, cool
(05/17/2009 02:35:30 PM) fmccor: Next --- carry-over?
(05/17/2009 02:35:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: yep
(05/17/2009 02:35:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: if needed I can always run this
off my infra until we can arrange a permanent solution
(05/17/2009 02:37:06 PM) fmccor: First is trustees&Foundation article for GMN.
We are now full strength, bug GMN is gone. I think we should put together the
article now and consider how to publish it.
(05/17/2009 02:37:32 PM) robbat2: put the article together, the news blog will
take it
(05/17/2009 02:37:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I have been talking to
nightmorph about some guest articles on his gentoo news blog
(05/17/2009 02:37:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: is that done?
(05/17/2009 02:37:56 PM) robbat2: just not live to my knowledge
(05/17/2009 02:38:13 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, heres what we have so far
http://dev.gentoo.org/~neddyseagoon/docs/trtrustees_GMN.xml
(05/17/2009 02:38:19 PM) fmccor: OK. I'll have to update whatever I sent to
NeddySeagoon last year, although the picture is the same.
(05/17/2009 02:38:44 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, awesome. I volunteer to
write some :)
(05/17/2009 02:38:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, quantumsummers you need to do
bits too
(05/17/2009 02:39:04 PM) fmccor: Idea was that everyone would contribute.
(05/17/2009 02:39:11 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'm happy to put it together
(05/17/2009 02:39:26 PM) fmccor: What's a realistic target date?
(05/17/2009 02:39:26 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: great! I'll send you some text
(05/17/2009 02:39:38 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, and a picture.
(05/17/2009 02:39:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, and a photo ?
(05/17/2009 02:39:44 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: sure
(05/17/2009 02:39:49 PM) robbat2: sure
(05/17/2009 02:39:59 PM) ***robbat2 gets the feeling he may be the youngest
trustee
(05/17/2009 02:40:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: by the next meeting ?
(05/17/2009 02:40:22 PM) fmccor: Works for me.
(05/17/2009 02:40:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: I can do that
(05/17/2009 02:40:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok - thats the target
(05/17/2009 02:40:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: tgall - Secetarty - add mugshot
(05/17/2009 02:40:56 PM) fmccor: That'll be about June 14.
(05/17/2009 02:40:57 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: that is a good one
(05/17/2009 02:41:40 PM) NeddySeagoon: yep ... nobody wrote back about my
meetings calendar ...
(05/17/2009 02:42:00 PM) fmccor: So we'll have everything to NeddySeagoon by
mid-June.
(05/17/2009 02:42:23 PM) fmccor: Does tsunam need to be reminded or do you have
something from him?
(05/17/2009 02:42:34 PM) NeddySeagoon: he needs to be reminded
(05/17/2009 02:42:53 PM) fmccor: OK, that'll be in the minutes I guess.
(05/17/2009 02:43:15 PM) robbat2: NeddySeagoon, want to bring that calendar up
here quickly, so we can proclaim the dates now?
(05/17/2009 02:43:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, I was going to do it under AoB
(05/17/2009 02:43:41 PM) fmccor: OK.
(05/17/2009 02:43:42 PM) robbat2: ok
(05/17/2009 02:43:54 PM) robbat2: what's next?
(05/17/2009 02:44:18 PM) fmccor: Next is mine --- work with Gentoo e.V. ....
Still awaiting action from Gentoo e.V.
(05/17/2009 02:44:22 PM) fmccor: No report.
(05/17/2009 02:45:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: seems like that is the case for
all the rest of the items in #3
(05/17/2009 02:45:10 PM) NeddySeagoon: its really in their hands ...
(05/17/2009 02:45:23 PM) fmccor: No --- I have updates.
(05/17/2009 02:45:31 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: aha
(05/17/2009 02:45:41 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: n IPR/trademark ?
(05/17/2009 02:46:30 PM) fmccor: Our domestic trademark attorney is changing who
is assigned to us. So I should have more when I find out who that is.
(05/17/2009 02:46:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, heh ... news on the news
(05/17/2009 02:47:17 PM) fmccor: It might be reasonable to move all of the
trademark work to our Boston firm, depending on what the San Diego people do.
(05/17/2009 02:47:58 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, we can only wait and see
(05/17/2009 02:48:10 PM) fmccor: I infer the San Diego firm is in a bit of a
turmoil, but am not sure.
(05/17/2009 02:49:31 PM) fmccor: Anyway, the item is still pending and I am now
waiting to hear from San Diego.
(05/17/2009 02:49:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: next item ?
(05/17/2009 02:49:43 PM) fmccor: Open bugs.
(05/17/2009 02:50:12 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: whoohoo :)
(05/17/2009 02:50:24 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: #217511
(05/17/2009 02:50:29 PM) robbat2: bug 217511
(05/17/2009 02:50:31 PM) Willikins: robbat2: https://bugs.gentoo.org/217511 "The
Gentoo Store is Out of Date"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; NEW;
neddyseagoon@g.o:trustees@g.o
(05/17/2009 02:50:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I think that one can be closed
since comprookie is helping out
(05/17/2009 02:50:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: comprookie2000, was going to work with
musikc to keep it up to date
(05/17/2009 02:51:07 PM) fmccor: 217511 Gentoo store is out of date.
(05/17/2009 02:51:15 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: we should perhaps consider a
tracker bug for the store to monitor progress
(05/17/2009 02:51:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, did that actually start ?
(05/17/2009 02:51:47 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: I thought so, I
wonder if we should make him staff & a login to the store
(05/17/2009 02:52:04 PM) comprookie2000: We are getting suggestions from the
forum post
(05/17/2009 02:52:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: comprookie2000, ping
(05/17/2009 02:52:12 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: hi David
(05/17/2009 02:52:17 PM) comprookie2000: hi
(05/17/2009 02:52:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: can we close the bug ?
(05/17/2009 02:52:31 PM) comprookie2000: yes
(05/17/2009 02:52:40 PM) NeddySeagoon: comprookie2000, are you working with
musikc on this
(05/17/2009 02:53:02 PM) comprookie2000: yes, she is very busy, but I do catch
her in irc
(05/17/2009 02:53:05 PM) fmccor: It's closed.
(05/17/2009 02:53:09 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, appoint a storekeeper you
mean ?
(05/17/2009 02:53:15 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok
(05/17/2009 02:53:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: yes
(05/17/2009 02:53:38 PM) comprookie2000: I think she would be OK with that
(05/17/2009 02:53:56 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'm not against that if it would help
(05/17/2009 02:54:17 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, So, you would like to add
comprookie2000 to your staff (or to tsunam's)?
fmccor fmccor|away
(05/17/2009 02:54:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor both of us can work with
him
(05/17/2009 02:54:42 PM) fmccor: It's fine with me if comprookie2000 is
agreeable.
(05/17/2009 02:54:48 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, I would like tsunam to have some
say in it
(05/17/2009 02:54:57 PM) comprookie2000: Fine with me
(05/17/2009 02:55:11 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: comprookie2000: if you were to
take over the store, would you mind reporting to Josh & I. I think we'll just
need a csv from cafepress more or less
(05/17/2009 02:55:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: with the sales that is
(05/17/2009 02:55:39 PM) comprookie2000: sure
(05/17/2009 02:55:40 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I can coordinate things if
needed
(05/17/2009 02:55:53 PM) fmccor: OK, we'll take this up next meeting. Until
then, I suggest quantumsummers and comprookie2000 and tsunam (when he gets
back) flesh out the position.
(05/17/2009 02:55:58 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: you want to get into
the store at all, anyone else?
(05/17/2009 02:55:58 PM) NeddySeagoon: lets work out the details outside the
meeting ... we are agreed in principle
(05/17/2009 02:56:06 PM) robbat2: nope, i don't need in
(05/17/2009 02:56:12 PM) fmccor: Not me.
(05/17/2009 02:56:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: ?
(05/17/2009 02:56:34 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: want to play with the store?
(05/17/2009 02:56:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'll go with whatever you guys work out
(05/17/2009 02:57:02 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, sounds good. comprookie2000
you will receive an email from me & we can talk about it
(05/17/2009 02:57:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: no, I'll stay out of the store. Did the
2006.0 CDs get dropped from the UK page ?
(05/17/2009 02:57:14 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, Can you and the others have
something to recommend at the next meeting and have a motion prepared?
fmccor fmccor|away
(05/17/2009 02:57:49 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor yes
(05/17/2009 02:57:57 PM) comprookie2000: We will need access to the graphics
used on the items
(05/17/2009 02:58:13 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: np
(05/17/2009 02:58:36 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I might have some new ones
too :)
(05/17/2009 02:58:45 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, the 2006.0 AMD64 CD is
still on the UK store
(05/17/2009 02:58:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: subject to approval of course
(05/17/2009 02:58:52 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: noted
(05/17/2009 02:59:42 PM) fmccor: Bug #234705 --- anyone know the status, or is
this done?
(05/17/2009 02:59:44 PM) Willikins: fmccor:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/234705 "Document of being an active developer"; Gentoo
Linux, Unspecified; NEW; dberkholz@g.o:araujo@g.o
(05/17/2009 03:00:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: leave it as a tracker so we can
keep track of the files
(05/17/2009 03:00:42 PM) NeddySeagoon: it should be closed with a note saying
I'll sign European applications and quantumsummers will sign USA ones on behalf
of the foundation
(05/17/2009 03:00:50 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: sounds fine with me
(05/17/2009 03:01:03 PM) robbat2: I can do candian ones if needed too
(05/17/2009 03:01:13 PM) robbat2: but USA/Canada mail is cheap
(05/17/2009 03:01:14 PM) NeddySeagoon: I only put it on the agenda so it can be
closed
(05/17/2009 03:01:26 PM) fmccor: Thanks.
(05/17/2009 03:02:06 PM) fmccor: NeddySeagoon, please add the note and close
it. :)
(05/17/2009 03:02:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, ok
(05/17/2009 03:02:31 PM) fmccor: Bug #241650
(05/17/2009 03:02:34 PM) Willikins: fmccor:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/241650 "truecrypt has a dangerous license."; Gentoo
Linux, Applications; REOP; dberkholz@g.o:crypto@g.o
(05/17/2009 03:03:15 PM) fmccor: This is actually not our bug, but I commented
on it as to how I think the crypro team should handle it.
(05/17/2009 03:03:35 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair has to step afk, back in 3
mins
(05/17/2009 03:04:32 PM) robbat2: to summarize, crypto team should just use
RESTRICT="mirror fetch bindist"
(05/17/2009 03:05:06 PM) robbat2: along with an ewarn
(05/17/2009 03:05:20 PM) fmccor: I think that's about what I suggested, too, and
it's up to them to do it.
(05/17/2009 03:05:33 PM) fmccor: Feel free to add your thoughts to the bug too.
(05/17/2009 03:05:46 PM) robbat2: i'm a crypto herd member, but i don't touch
truecrypt ;-)
(05/17/2009 03:05:55 PM) robbat2: ok, i'll summarize it into the bug
(05/17/2009 03:05:58 PM) robbat2: and tell the team to go ahead
(05/17/2009 03:06:26 PM) fmccor: Just about no one does, and that's part of the
problem. It's actually a nice program.
(05/17/2009 03:07:29 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor - closed the dev cert bug
(05/17/2009 03:07:36 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair is back, apologies
(05/17/2009 03:07:39 PM) fmccor: Thank you
(05/17/2009 03:07:45 PM) fmccor: Just in time.
(05/17/2009 03:08:26 PM) fmccor: Bug # 245227
(05/17/2009 03:08:40 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Bug 245227
(05/17/2009 03:08:43 PM) Willikins: quantumsummers:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/245227 "Funding request: replacement hard drive for
osprey.gentoo.org"; Gentoo Linux, Unspecified; RESO, FIXE;
robbat2@g.o:trustees@g.o
(05/17/2009 03:08:46 PM) robbat2: ok, I left a comment on the truecrypt bug for
the crypto team, if none of them touch it by the end of the next week, i'll bug
it for them
(05/17/2009 03:08:59 PM) fmccor: robbat2, thank you.
(05/17/2009 03:09:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: thanks robbat2
(05/17/2009 03:09:04 PM) Arfrever: I'm from crypto project and I can add this
RESTRICT :)
(05/17/2009 03:09:04 PM) robbat2: #245227 budget limit for infra repairs
(05/17/2009 03:09:10 PM) robbat2: Arfrever, go for it
(05/17/2009 03:09:20 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: hey Arfrever, thanks :)
(05/17/2009 03:09:21 PM) NeddySeagoon: Arfrever, well done
(05/17/2009 03:10:02 PM) robbat2: for #245227, tsunam (i think) had suggested
that we authorize infrastructure to a base level of funding for purchases
relating to hardware repair
(05/17/2009 03:10:04 PM) fmccor: This bug is closed --- can we remove it from
the agenda?
(05/17/2009 03:10:11 PM) NeddySeagoon: yes
(05/17/2009 03:10:17 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(05/17/2009 03:10:24 PM) robbat2: it wasn't the bug directly, just that tsunam
wanted to streamline the process
(05/17/2009 03:10:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, all the closed bugs can be
removed
(05/17/2009 03:10:49 PM) fmccor: NeddySeagoon, you control the agenda. :)
(05/17/2009 03:11:16 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: yes. what do you think
is an appropriate amount? I would guess that <$1000 USD should do it
(05/17/2009 03:11:29 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, yeah, we want infra to just fix
stuff up to a 'reasonable value' but we need a number
(05/17/2009 03:11:44 PM) robbat2: $1000/year is fine by me.
(05/17/2009 03:12:05 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: we should not encourage
needless spending though ... I meant up to $1K per month available without a
vote
(05/17/2009 03:12:13 PM) NeddySeagoon: I move that we set a repairs budget for
infra of $1000/year
(05/17/2009 03:12:21 PM) fmccor: Second
(05/17/2009 03:12:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: second
(05/17/2009 03:12:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: Vote ?
(05/17/2009 03:12:34 PM) robbat2: yes
(05/17/2009 03:12:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(05/17/2009 03:12:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: yes
(05/17/2009 03:12:38 PM) fmccor: Yes
(05/17/2009 03:12:43 PM) NeddySeagoon: carried
(05/17/2009 03:13:18 PM) fmccor: Bug #253491 --- more on the store, this bug is
also marked closed.
(05/17/2009 03:13:20 PM) Willikins: fmccor:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/253491 "Gentoo Store - Add Case stickers, badges.";
Gentoo Infrastructure, Other; RESO, FIXE; david@linuxcrazy.com:trustees@g.o
(05/17/2009 03:13:28 PM) NeddySeagoon: I suggest it runs the same as our FY ...
1 July to 31 June
(05/17/2009 03:13:45 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: noted
(05/17/2009 03:14:11 PM) NeddySeagoon: comprookie2000, did that stuff on 253491
get added or was a decision made not to ?
(05/17/2009 03:15:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: I can't see the USA cafepress store from
the UK
(05/17/2009 03:15:26 PM) comprookie2000: The stickers for case badges that could
be created at cafepress will not do
(05/17/2009 03:15:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, we should close that bug
wontfix
(05/17/2009 03:15:59 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: point people to techiant for
badges
(05/17/2009 03:16:05 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: if approved
(05/17/2009 03:16:11 PM) NeddySeagoon: comprookie2000, Can you talk to
Techiant ... hes on the agenda later
(05/17/2009 03:16:12 PM) Techiant: I am available if anyone has any questions
(05/17/2009 03:16:22 PM) comprookie2000: great
(05/17/2009 03:16:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, ok
(05/17/2009 03:17:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: comprookie2000, Techiant, we'll
need to discuss further over email
(05/17/2009 03:17:47 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: though we will talk about the
issue in a few mins
(05/17/2009 03:18:17 PM) mode (+v Dr_Who ) by ChanServ
(05/17/2009 03:18:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: next item ?
(05/17/2009 03:19:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: bug 254249
(05/17/2009 03:19:12 PM) Willikins: https://bugs.gentoo.org/254249 "Tracking a
conversation & doc regarding website redesign"; Gentoo Linux, Unspecified; NEW;
quantumsummers@g.o:pr@g.o
(05/17/2009 03:19:25 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ready for this?
(05/17/2009 03:19:35 PM) fmccor: Go
(05/17/2009 03:19:51 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: as part of the KMS sys I have
created a design that could be used for the main site
(05/17/2009 03:20:15 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: its slighty based on the
previous design
(05/17/2009 03:20:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I would like to leave that bug
open for now, & I will post a screenshot next week or so
(05/17/2009 03:20:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok
(05/17/2009 03:21:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: no one has posted there in some
time, hopefully this will spark some comments
(05/17/2009 03:21:14 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: & I hope it doesn't suck ;) )
(05/17/2009 03:21:24 PM) fmccor: OK.
(05/17/2009 03:21:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: anyway, coming along
(05/17/2009 03:21:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: that's it for now
(05/17/2009 03:21:59 PM) fmccor: Bug #254588
(05/17/2009 03:22:01 PM) Willikins: https://bugs.gentoo.org/254588 "Possible
confusion over use of the Gentoo Penguin (Quicktime Penguin) Logo";
Documentation, Other documents; NEW; fmccor@g.o:trustees@g.o
(05/17/2009 03:22:16 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: can be closed
(05/17/2009 03:22:28 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: using the linux penguin now
(05/17/2009 03:22:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok
(05/17/2009 03:22:44 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I am not sure I have seen it on
the site though
(05/17/2009 03:22:47 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: anyone?
(05/17/2009 03:23:18 PM) robbat2: quantumsummers, the existing one is in the
news
(05/17/2009 03:23:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: hmm, old one is still on the
main page
(05/17/2009 03:23:37 PM) fmccor: Haven't noticed. I just closed the bug --- do
you want it repoened?
(05/17/2009 03:23:41 PM) robbat2: anybody got a link to the apple one that we
might infringe on?
(05/17/2009 03:23:54 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair:
http://www.gentoo.org/images/icon-penguin.png
(05/17/2009 03:24:01 PM) robbat2: i mean to the apple one
(05/17/2009 03:24:02 PM) robbat2: not ours
(05/17/2009 03:24:09 PM) robbat2: unless we're just using it directly from them?
(05/17/2009 03:24:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ah, there was a link somewhere.
I'll try to find it
(05/17/2009 03:25:09 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, please repoen the bug if "can
be closed" was premature. :)
(05/17/2009 03:25:36 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, Or I can if you like.
(05/17/2009 03:25:40 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok. not sure why that wasn't
put on the web
(05/17/2009 03:26:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: keep the bug until the web site is fixed
(05/17/2009 03:27:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: next ?
(05/17/2009 03:27:09 PM) robbat2: we're slowing down here, and there's still
lots of items to finish
(05/17/2009 03:27:18 PM) robbat2: bug 255274
(05/17/2009 03:27:21 PM) Willikins: robbat2:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/255274 "Funding request: SATA HDD for SuperH
development board"; Gentoo Linux, Unspecified; RESO, FIXE;
armin76@g.o:trustees@g.o
(05/17/2009 03:27:27 PM) robbat2: tsunam just needs to give armin76 the money
(05/17/2009 03:27:46 PM) robbat2: was approved already, just previously held up
by paypal
(05/17/2009 03:27:55 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, I think thats done ... I saw the
paypal email, so it can be closed
(05/17/2009 03:28:10 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(05/17/2009 03:28:24 PM) robbat2: ok, spotted it in my mail too, closing
(05/17/2009 03:28:28 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: bug 256441
(05/17/2009 03:28:30 PM) Willikins: quantumsummers:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/256441 "gentoo-foundation-announce@lists.gentoo.org
mailing list for official Foundation correspondence."; Gentoo Infrastructure,
Mailing Lists; RESO, FIXE; fmccor@g.o:infra-bugs@g.o
(05/17/2009 03:29:04 PM) robbat2: "Did we update the senders/moderators"
(05/17/2009 03:29:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I think this is mostly in shape
too, though I am uncertain about the moderators
(05/17/2009 03:29:07 PM) robbat2: says the agenda
(05/17/2009 03:29:20 PM) robbat2: one sec, i'll report on them
(05/17/2009 03:29:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: the senders are the board
(05/17/2009 03:29:26 PM) NeddySeagoon: I cheated. Did we update the
senders/moderators after the trustee election ?
(05/17/2009 03:29:37 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: the mods should be the same as
the board
(05/17/2009 03:30:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: maybe want to include tanderson
since he is gonna help out right :D
(05/17/2009 03:30:11 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, yeah =
senders=moderators=board
(05/17/2009 03:30:28 PM) robbat2: ok, it's updated now
(05/17/2009 03:30:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: thanks robbat2
(05/17/2009 03:30:37 PM) robbat2: all 5 trustees are senders+moderators
(05/17/2009 03:30:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, thanks
(05/17/2009 03:30:50 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: bug 261785
(05/17/2009 03:30:53 PM) Willikins: https://bugs.gentoo.org/261785 "transfer
gentoo.be from Sejo to the Gentoo Foundation, Inc."; Gentoo Infrastructure,
Other; ASSI; quantumsummers@g.o:infra-bugs@g.o
(05/17/2009 03:30:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: close the bug
(05/17/2009 03:30:57 PM) robbat2: changes: dmwaters removed from both, and
quantumsummers added to moderators
(05/17/2009 03:31:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, thanks
(05/17/2009 03:31:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: perfect
(05/17/2009 03:31:12 PM) tanderson: quantumsummers: can't I just send to it and
have it approved? I don't need power for what I do I don't think
(05/17/2009 03:31:34 PM) robbat2: i'll update the domain bug, it was mine
(05/17/2009 03:31:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: I think "transfer gentoo.be from Sejo to
the Gentoo Foundation, Inc." happened
(05/17/2009 03:31:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes it did
(05/17/2009 03:31:51 PM) robbat2: i processed it, it's done, was on my credit
card
(05/17/2009 03:31:53 PM) fmccor: tanderson, not unless you are on the sender
list. This came up during the election.
(05/17/2009 03:32:05 PM) robbat2: is fully integrated to our ultraDNS system
(05/17/2009 03:32:16 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: have you been
reimbursed for the expense?
(05/17/2009 03:32:21 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, did you get reimbursed ?
(05/17/2009 03:32:42 PM) robbat2: i didn't bother to submit it before, i will if
you want me to
(05/17/2009 03:32:55 PM) tanderson: fmccor: ok
(05/17/2009 03:33:06 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: up to you, prob a good idea.
you have the receipt I imagine
(05/17/2009 03:33:12 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, your call - Its a Foundation
expense but donations are always welcome
(05/17/2009 03:33:24 PM) fmccor: tanderson, Me, I don't care. Fight with the
others. :)
(05/17/2009 03:33:47 PM) tanderson: fmccor: I don't care either, quantumsummers
can argue
(05/17/2009 03:34:12 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair removed occam's razor from
handy belt pouch
(05/17/2009 03:34:25 PM) fmccor: tanderson, what the election officials was send
mail to trustees@ who would send it on and approve their own mail.
(05/17/2009 03:34:39 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: tanderson: you can just send it
to the trustees alias
(05/17/2009 03:34:46 PM) tanderson: Then I can live with that as well
(05/17/2009 03:34:47 PM) NeddySeagoon: bug 262356
(05/17/2009 03:34:49 PM) Willikins: NeddySeagoon:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/262356 "Gentoo not allowed to receive money via Paypal
anymore"; Gentoo Linux, Unspecified; VERI, FIXE; neysx@g.o:trustees@g.o
(05/17/2009 03:34:55 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: close this bug
(05/17/2009 03:34:58 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: done
(05/17/2009 03:35:01 PM) NeddySeagoon: Thats fixed - so the bug can get closed
(05/17/2009 03:35:03 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fiX0rd
(05/17/2009 03:35:15 PM) NeddySeagoon: bug 264682
(05/17/2009 03:35:17 PM) Willikins: NeddySeagoon:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/264682 "www.linuxcenter.kz wish to be our vendors in
Kazakhstan"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; NEW; fmccor@g.o:trustees@g.o
(05/17/2009 03:35:23 PM) fmccor: That's mine.
(05/17/2009 03:35:43 PM) fmccor: I'll comment on the bug in a bit, but here's
the status as to date.
(05/17/2009 03:36:09 PM) fmccor: Lawyers gave a conditional OK, depending on
whether the web site looked real or not.
(05/17/2009 03:36:36 PM) fmccor: klieber's wife knows Russian and so far as she
can tell, they're legitimate.
(05/17/2009 03:37:03 PM) NeddySeagoon: what about protecting our mark in
Kazakhstan?
(05/17/2009 03:37:46 PM) fmccor: They did not comment on that. I told them the
site looked real but have not heard back.
(05/17/2009 03:38:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, ok, held over until we know how
our trademark will be protected
(05/17/2009 03:38:48 PM) NeddySeagoon: 5. New Licence Applications
(05/17/2009 03:38:57 PM) fmccor: I'll nudge the lawyer involved a bit. I can't
push too hard since we are not actually paying them.
(05/17/2009 03:38:58 PM) NeddySeagoon: Licencing For Techiant LLC
(05/17/2009 03:39:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, ok
(05/17/2009 03:39:34 PM) NeddySeagoon: I vote we go with the offer from
Techiant LLC as per the email
(05/17/2009 03:40:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Techiant: can we get a printed
+ signed copy of your proposal for our records?
(05/17/2009 03:40:23 PM) Techiant: Sure, if you could email me the address.
(05/17/2009 03:40:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I second NeddySeagoon'S motion
(05/17/2009 03:40:43 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, why not a digitally
signed email ?
fmccor fmccor|away
(05/17/2009 03:40:54 PM) Techiant: can do
(05/17/2009 03:41:11 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor is that sufficient, a
dig signed mail?
(05/17/2009 03:41:13 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, robbat2 ? ^^
(05/17/2009 03:41:26 PM) Techiant: how about scanned pdf?
(05/17/2009 03:41:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: its fine with me
(05/17/2009 03:41:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, people lose stuff on
paper
(05/17/2009 03:41:42 PM) robbat2: scan the pdf and gpg sign it :-)
(05/17/2009 03:41:49 PM) robbat2: err, scan to pdf
(05/17/2009 03:41:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: heh
(05/17/2009 03:41:51 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: I would digitize
it, of course
(05/17/2009 03:42:02 PM) Techiant: :)
(05/17/2009 03:42:04 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, it's fine with me.
(05/17/2009 03:42:08 PM) Techiant: I'll give you a good copy
(05/17/2009 03:42:16 PM) robbat2: signing it both ways covers us in all cases
(05/17/2009 03:42:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: we have two votes in favour ...
(05/17/2009 03:42:29 PM) fmccor: yes
(05/17/2009 03:42:31 PM) robbat2: aye from me
(05/17/2009 03:42:37 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(05/17/2009 03:42:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: carried
(05/17/2009 03:42:40 PM) Techiant: Thanks you
(05/17/2009 03:43:00 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Techiant: thank you, will you
send us an email when you are ready to sell them?
(05/17/2009 03:43:06 PM) comprookie2000: Techiant, Aluminum and domed?
(05/17/2009 03:43:13 PM) NeddySeagoon: Techiant, you are in business with your
badges. Other items need other approvals. Good luck
(05/17/2009 03:43:21 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair wants a few :)
(05/17/2009 03:43:39 PM) Techiant: Domed, flat vinyl (notebook style0, mirror
gold/silver brushed gold/silver. No aluminum
(05/17/2009 03:43:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: still looking for a vendor to
make the belt buckles though
(05/17/2009 03:43:49 PM) NeddySeagoon: Use Logo in the Gentoo Package Manager
Specification
(05/17/2009 03:44:11 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: so you have a
link to something describing what that is all about?
(05/17/2009 03:44:45 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: this is a document, correct?
(05/17/2009 03:44:50 PM) fmccor: Yes.
(05/17/2009 03:44:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, its in your trustees@
email. USe of the G logo in a create commons document
(05/17/2009 03:45:04 PM) Techiant: are we good with flat notebook stickers, or
what would be a procedure for approving new designs/products?
(05/17/2009 03:45:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: Techiant, were they in your email ?
(05/17/2009 03:45:58 PM) NeddySeagoon: and your link
(05/17/2009 03:46:34 PM) Techiant: There were a few objections in the previous
chat re; other products, I think
(05/17/2009 03:47:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Techiant: the laptop sticker is
like the vista sticker on new PCs right, 1 inch x 3/4/ inch or so?
(05/17/2009 03:47:31 PM) NeddySeagoon: Techiant, If they were in your link in
your original email, they are covered. You may not add new products without a
new application
(05/17/2009 03:47:55 PM) Techiant: I proposed other products we can make in
email as "can be pre-approved with Gentoo Foundation" but not sure what the
procedure will be
(05/17/2009 03:48:08 PM) Techiant: quantumsummers: yes
(05/17/2009 03:49:06 PM) Techiant: NeddySeagoon: I see, badges onlythis time. I
will submit new application when we finalized which products we are going to do
(05/17/2009 03:50:01 PM) robbat2: err, i'd take the vista-sticker-like to be
case badges as well, just flat ones
(05/17/2009 03:50:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: same here
(05/17/2009 03:50:12 PM) comprookie2000: laptop sleeves have been asked for
(05/17/2009 03:50:12 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, me too
(05/17/2009 03:50:28 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: comprookie2000: I like that
idea
(05/17/2009 03:51:10 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Techiant: so you are good with
the case badges, both the domed & flat ones
(05/17/2009 03:51:11 PM) NeddySeagoon: We need to see designs ... blanket
approval for anything is too close to public domain for my liking
(05/17/2009 03:51:18 PM) Techiant: so can we agree that case badges include:
domed or undomed, PC or laptop logo stickers?
(05/17/2009 03:51:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: Techiant, I'm happy with that
(05/17/2009 03:52:09 PM) Techiant: great. I will submit other stuff (usb jump
drive, laptop skins next time
(05/17/2009 03:52:10 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Techiant: if you are unsure at
any point just send us an email & we will respond promptly
(05/17/2009 03:52:23 PM) Techiant: will do. thanks guys
(05/17/2009 03:52:51 PM) Techiant: and I will await for emal re: gentoo store
linking. Will also email signed PDF
(05/17/2009 03:53:41 PM) NeddySeagoon: Techiant, the link on gentoo.org is
something we need to discuss for all licenced vendors
(05/17/2009 03:54:12 PM) NeddySeagoon: The email about our logo in the PMS was
message ID <20090416074036.25ed88dc@terra.solaris>
(05/17/2009 03:54:30 PM) NeddySeagoon: on 2009.04.16 06:40
(05/17/2009 03:55:17 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I found it, thanks
(05/17/2009 03:55:19 PM) robbat2: Gentoo logo on PMS CC doc - aye from me with
the trademark text as proposed in the mail
(05/17/2009 03:55:33 PM) fmccor: Fine with me.
(05/17/2009 03:55:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: me too, yes
(05/17/2009 03:56:40 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'm ok with it as long as derived works
must have the logo removed
(05/17/2009 03:58:10 PM) fmccor: Right. Motion?
(05/17/2009 03:58:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: motion to allow logo in PMS
(05/17/2009 03:58:33 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: with the following wording
(05/17/2009 03:58:34 PM) NeddySeagoon: seconeded
(05/17/2009 03:58:41 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: wait a sec..
(05/17/2009 03:58:45 PM) NeddySeagoon: :)
(05/17/2009 03:59:57 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: "Gentoo and the Gentoo logo are
a trademark of the Gentoo Foundation (/link/) and are used in this document
with permission. All derived works must remove the logo or request permission
from Gentoo Foundation, Inc."
(05/17/2009 04:00:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: something like that sound ok?
(05/17/2009 04:00:27 PM) fmccor: Yes.
(05/17/2009 04:00:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: well that's the motion then :)
(05/17/2009 04:00:45 PM) NeddySeagoon: Can we say that in a CC document ?
(05/17/2009 04:01:06 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: the text content is CC, not the
logo
(05/17/2009 04:01:14 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok
(05/17/2009 04:01:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: Seconded
(05/17/2009 04:01:26 PM) fmccor: Yes.
(05/17/2009 04:01:31 PM) NeddySeagoon: yes
(05/17/2009 04:01:42 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, robbat2 ?
(05/17/2009 04:01:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(05/17/2009 04:01:54 PM) robbat2: aye
(05/17/2009 04:01:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: carried
(05/17/2009 04:02:26 PM) NeddySeagoon: 6. The Year Ahead ... lets hold that
over to next meeing
(05/17/2009 04:02:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok
(05/17/2009 04:02:36 PM) fmccor: Please.
(05/17/2009 04:02:39 PM) NeddySeagoon: 7 Meeting Calander
(05/17/2009 04:02:40 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: :)
(05/17/2009 04:03:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: I proposed the first Sunday after the
first council meeting of the month, so DoNM is 14 June. Is everyone OK with
the other dates ?
(05/17/2009 04:04:04 PM) fmccor: Should be. That's too far ahead to know. :)
(05/17/2009 04:04:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: The first council meeting being on the
second Thursday
(05/17/2009 04:04:36 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: 12 july, 16 aug, 13 sept
(05/17/2009 04:04:45 PM) NeddySeagoon: I propose the dates are adopted - we can
change them as needed
(05/17/2009 04:04:50 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: second
(05/17/2009 04:04:58 PM) fmccor: 16 Aug --- my birthday. :)
(05/17/2009 04:05:04 PM) fmccor: Yes.
(05/17/2009 04:05:05 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: heeeeeyyyy
(05/17/2009 04:05:33 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, so we're set on the
meetings then
(05/17/2009 04:05:47 PM) robbat2: aye
(05/17/2009 04:06:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: yep. I gave dates up to April 11, when
we should have three newly elected trustees.
(05/17/2009 04:06:57 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: :)
(05/17/2009 04:07:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, you want to move that a week ?
(05/17/2009 04:07:27 PM) fmccor: No.
(05/17/2009 04:07:48 PM) fmccor: I think we met on your birthday?
(05/17/2009 04:07:55 PM) NeddySeagoon: thanks. I move that the meeting calendar
as posted is adopted
(05/17/2009 04:08:04 PM) fmccor: second
(05/17/2009 04:08:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, yep, we did
(05/17/2009 04:08:20 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I'm good with the meeting sched
(05/17/2009 04:08:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, robbat2 ?
(05/17/2009 04:08:23 PM) fmccor: And vote yes.
(05/17/2009 04:08:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: yes
(05/17/2009 04:08:29 PM) robbat2: I voted yes already
(05/17/2009 04:08:43 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok, carried
(05/17/2009 04:08:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: no new membership applications
this month
(05/17/2009 04:08:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: correct
(05/17/2009 04:09:13 PM) NeddySeagoon: Date of Next Meeting - 14th June 2009 -
we have just agreed
(05/17/2009 04:09:13 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: :(
(05/17/2009 04:09:29 PM) NeddySeagoon: 10 Any other business
(05/17/2009 04:09:34 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, ?
(05/17/2009 04:10:01 PM) robbat2: nil from me at this point, i can't do it with
tsunam
(05/17/2009 04:10:13 PM) fmccor: ?
(05/17/2009 04:10:14 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, ?
(05/17/2009 04:10:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I'm good, thanks
(05/17/2009 04:10:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, ?
(05/17/2009 04:10:32 PM) fmccor: Very brief.
(05/17/2009 04:10:43 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair will not ask what robbat2
can't do with tsunam :D
(05/17/2009 04:11:15 PM) fmccor: As per my email, I intend to send out bylaws as
pdf to our agent (to satisfy a legal requirement) unless someone else has
already done so.
(05/17/2009 04:11:31 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: go for it sir
(05/17/2009 04:11:32 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, thats fine by me
fmccor fmccor|away
(05/17/2009 04:11:56 PM) robbat2: +1 from me
(05/17/2009 04:11:56 PM) fmccor: We should probably send him an updated trustee
list as wel, in case he needs it for something.
(05/17/2009 04:12:07 PM) fmccor: ^well^
(05/17/2009 04:12:13 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: fmccor does this satisfy the
state of NM re our nfp status for 2--9?
(05/17/2009 04:12:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, its on one of the incorporation
forms ... do we have to change that ?
(05/17/2009 04:12:47 PM) fmccor: No.
(05/17/2009 04:13:06 PM) NeddySeagoon: good, because that would cost
(05/17/2009 04:13:27 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, There is a requirement that our
agent have our bylaws on hand in case anyone walks in and wants to see them.
(05/17/2009 04:13:43 PM) NeddySeagoon: I only have one item. tsunam sent his
apologies ... did that get noted before I joined ?
(05/17/2009 04:13:52 PM) fmccor: Yes.
(05/17/2009 04:14:01 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'm done
(05/17/2009 04:14:12 PM) NeddySeagoon: Open Floor
(05/17/2009 04:15:00 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: anyone have business?
(05/17/2009 04:15:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: Meeting Closed
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<b>Time and Venue</b>
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<b>Sunday, 17 May 2009 1900 UTC on irc.freenode.net #gentoo-trustees</b>
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<p></p>
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<b>Agenda</b>
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<ol>
<li>Introductions</li>
<li>Actions From the Last Meeting
<ul>
<li>Updated Treasurers Report (from AGM)</li>
<li>Updated Secretaries Report (from AGM)</li>
<li>Gentoo Foundation Banking - tsunam</li>
<li>Certified Public Accountant - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Send friendly cease and desist emails to copyright infringers - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Treasurers Report for FY ending 30 June 2008</li>
<li>Foundation Knowledge Management Needs - quantumsummers</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Actions From Previous Meetings on hold for one or more actions above
<ul>
<li>Trustees and Foundation Article For the GMN - (On hold while we are under strenght)</li>
<li>Working with Gentoo e.V. - fmccor (On hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V. meeting)</li>
<li>Licencing For emtom.cz - quantumsummers (On hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V meeting)</li>
<li>Licencing For Projektfarm GmbH - quantumsummers (On Hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V meeting)</li>
<li>Fix name and address on IPR/trademark documents, 31 Aug 2008 meeting authorised the $200 fees - fmccor</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Open Bugs Assigned to Trustees
<ul>
<li>217511 The Gentoo Store is Out of Date - musikc</li>
<li>234705 Document of being an active developer</li>
<li>241650 Truecrypt License Issues.</li>
<li>245227 budget limit for infra repairs</li>
<li>253491 Gentoo Store - Add Case stickers, badges</li>
<li>254249 gentoo.org Website Redesign</li>
<li>254588 Possible confusion over use of the Gentoo Penguin (Quicktime Penguin) Logo</li>
<li>255274 Funding request: SATA HDD for superh development board</li>
<li>256441 gentoo-foundation-announce Did we update the senders/moderators</li>
<li>261785 Transfer gentoo.be from Sejo to the Gentoo Foundation, Inc. </li>
<li>262356 Gentoo not allowed to receive money via Paypal anymore</li>
<li>264682 linuxcenter.kz wish to be our vendors in Kazakhstan </li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>New Licence Applications
<ul>
<li>Licencing For Techiant LLC</li>
<li>Use Logo in the Gentoo Package Manager Specification</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The Year Ahead</li>
<li>Meeting Calander</li>
<li>Membership Applications - if you have applied and you are not listed below, please remind the trustees
<ul>
<li>Gentoo Developers
<ul>
<li>None</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Community Members
<ul>
<li>None</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Date of Next Meeting - 14th June 2009</li>
<li>Any other business</li>
<li>Open floor</li>
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<p>
<b>Meeting Conduct</b>
</p>
<p>
The channel will be open (not moderated) during the meeting unless there is so much chatter it becomes impossible to
make progress.
</p>
<p>
Attendees can help by keeping questions to the end of an agenda item or the end of the meeting - your
point may be covered during the discussion anyway.
</p>
<p>
Do not expect to bring up items in Any Other Business and get an instant response. Calm considered well
reasoned emails to <mail link="trustees@gentoo.org">the trustees</mail> or opening a bug are the best ways
to bring up new ideas.
</p>
<p>
<b>Record Keeping</b>
</p>
<p>
The meeting will be logged and both the <uri link="http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/minutes/">full log and a summary</uri>
of decisions will be made publicaly available
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(06/14/2009 02:00:49 PM) ***NeddySeagoon calls the meeting to order.
(06/14/2009 02:00:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: Roll call
(06/14/2009 02:00:58 PM) tsunam_: here
(06/14/2009 02:00:59 PM) fmccor: Here.
(06/14/2009 02:01:15 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, robbat2 ?
(06/14/2009 02:01:36 PM) robbat2: i'm here
(06/14/2009 02:02:06 PM) NeddySeagoon: We have a quaram ... lets skip Agenda
item 1. We all know one another.
(06/14/2009 02:02:10 PM) NeddySeagoon: Item 2 Actions From the Last Meeting
(06/14/2009 02:02:42 PM) NeddySeagoon: skipping quantumsummers stuff ... we can
come back to it if he shows up
(06/14/2009 02:02:51 PM) NeddySeagoon: Treasurers Report for FY ending 30 June
2008 thats last year
(06/14/2009 02:02:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam_, ^^
(06/14/2009 02:03:16 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair is here, sorry I'm late ... I
gotta unload the car real quick
(06/14/2009 02:03:18 PM) tsunam_: Fiscal year isn't up yet
(06/14/2009 02:03:29 PM) tsunam_: so I can't give a report on our fiscal year
end totals yet ^_^
(06/14/2009 02:03:35 PM) robbat2: ending 2008, not 09
(06/14/2009 02:03:38 PM) fmccor: Ends July !?
(06/14/2009 02:03:39 PM) tsunam_: oh
(06/14/2009 02:03:43 PM) tsunam_: sorry
(06/14/2009 02:03:44 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam_, thats for fiscal year ending
June 2008 not 2009
(06/14/2009 02:03:50 PM) tsunam_: my bad
(06/14/2009 02:04:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: you were haveing paypal issues
(06/14/2009 02:04:39 PM) tsunam_: I've not finished it yet :( I got all the data
from 2005-2009 so far
(06/14/2009 02:04:49 PM) tsunam_: I need to review each report we've generated
and confirm everything
(06/14/2009 02:05:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: Will the IRS want it if we get audited ?
(06/14/2009 02:05:09 PM) tsunam_: yes they would
(06/14/2009 02:05:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: So its a 'must do' and FY 09 ends in two
weeks. so we will have another report to do.
(06/14/2009 02:06:01 PM) tsunam_: I'd also liketo be able to with absolute
certainty say that the reports are accurate (pending ing finalizing)
(06/14/2009 02:06:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam_, do you have the time to do it
(06/14/2009 02:06:11 PM) tsunam_: yes I will get it done
(06/14/2009 02:06:11 PM) robbat2: tsunam_, what help do you need from me on
those?
(06/14/2009 02:06:26 PM) robbat2: since I noted the needed corrections to the
previous ones
(06/14/2009 02:06:27 PM) tsunam_: robbat2: review things when I finish them
(06/14/2009 02:06:28 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: we can talk to the cpa as well
(06/14/2009 02:06:48 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I'll need to pass them along to
her anyway
(06/14/2009 02:06:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, we will come back to your
stuff
(06/14/2009 02:07:06 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok
(06/14/2009 02:07:22 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam_, now you have all the info ...
give us a date to complete 2008
(06/14/2009 02:07:49 PM) tsunam_: NeddySeagoon: I'll have it done within the
next 2 weeks
(06/14/2009 02:07:55 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok
(06/14/2009 02:08:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: and 2009 for the Aug meeting ? thats 6
weeks after the FY end ?
(06/14/2009 02:08:38 PM) tsunam_: *nods*
(06/14/2009 02:09:09 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam_, thats FY 2008 to robbat2 for
review in two weeks and presented to the meeting in July ?
(06/14/2009 02:09:19 PM) tsunam_: yep
(06/14/2009 02:09:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: Fine.
(06/14/2009 02:09:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: back to Certified Public Accountant -
quantumsummers
(06/14/2009 02:10:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: Hmm - must still be unloading his car
(06/14/2009 02:10:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: Trustees and Foundation Article For the
News Feed (was GMN)
(06/14/2009 02:10:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: hey there, so tsunam_ I'm gonna
need all that financial data to complete the f1023 for for 501c3, I will go
thru the data + reports with the CPA when I get it
(06/14/2009 02:11:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: I'll admit to slacking on this one. I
have a link from fmccor
(06/14/2009 02:11:06 PM) tsunam_: quantumsummers: sure
(06/14/2009 02:11:12 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I'd say I'm about 75% thru the
form otherwise
(06/14/2009 02:11:27 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: can have it to everyone after I
get the fin data
(06/14/2009 02:11:38 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: sorry its taken me more time
than I thought
(06/14/2009 02:11:44 PM) tsunam_: quantumsummers: again right now its just
paypal related. Hopefully next week I should have ing related funds (netbank)
as well as much as I can, which is "this is the total in that account"
(06/14/2009 02:12:04 PM) tsunam_: quantumsummers: I assume you need the
netbank/ing numbers as well?
(06/14/2009 02:12:09 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: righto, nothing fancy id needed
for the cpa, that sounds great
(06/14/2009 02:12:16 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: s/id/is
(06/14/2009 02:12:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, yes please ... I'd like
to know what I'm getting into as I'm not familiar with the finer points of US
law
(06/14/2009 02:12:59 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: I will post it
around, we'll need to vote on it, perhaps via an "emergency" meeting or
whatever (note this is not an emergency)
(06/14/2009 02:13:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, I don't want to get
extradited. I like here :)
(06/14/2009 02:13:36 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, Don't need a a meeting to vite,
I think.
(06/14/2009 02:13:49 PM) NeddySeagoon: We can vote in email
(06/14/2009 02:13:51 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: its a huge form & I'm
assembling all the doc in the checklist as well which will include financial
statements
(06/14/2009 02:13:56 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: that'll work
(06/14/2009 02:14:14 PM) fmccor: Yes.
(06/14/2009 02:14:16 PM) NeddySeagoon: As long as we have an audit trail
(06/14/2009 02:14:37 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: sounds like we will
(06/14/2009 02:15:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, is that you done for the
CPA or did you just sneak another agenda item in ?
(06/14/2009 02:15:25 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: we have to file the so-called
schedule E since we did ont file for 501c3 in 27 months from incorp
(06/14/2009 02:15:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: CPA is assisting me, so it is
relevant
(06/14/2009 02:15:46 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: (to me :D )
(06/14/2009 02:16:02 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, done I think, unless anyone
has questions
(06/14/2009 02:16:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, ok, you want to do the
CPA update
(06/14/2009 02:16:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok ... next Send friendly cease and
desist emails to copyright infringers - quantumsummers
(06/14/2009 02:16:59 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: sure, CPA will review
financials for inclusion in f1023 for 501c3 when ready as well as the form
(06/14/2009 02:17:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: re C&D
(06/14/2009 02:17:09 PM) NeddySeagoon: sorry
(06/14/2009 02:17:14 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: its ok, that was it
(06/14/2009 02:17:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: next Send friendly cease and desist
emails to copyright infringers - quantumsummers
(06/14/2009 02:17:37 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: so, I wrote all this code to
make it easy to email the individual IP infringers
(06/14/2009 02:17:51 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: then I set about gathering
email addys from cafepress,
(06/14/2009 02:17:55 PM) NeddySeagoon: did you test it :)
(06/14/2009 02:17:57 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: they do not display them
(06/14/2009 02:18:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I found a procedure for IP
infringement
(06/14/2009 02:18:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: take it up with cafepress directly.
explain we want to be friendly
(06/14/2009 02:18:43 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: so I have emailed the people at
cafepress regarding a long list of every item that I could find that infringes
(06/14/2009 02:18:46 PM) robbat2: brb, cat emergency
(06/14/2009 02:19:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: thus its "in the pipe"
(06/14/2009 02:19:19 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: heard back & they are "looking
into the matter"
(06/14/2009 02:19:40 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: nothing since, its been a week
or so, if I do not hear from them on Monday I will email again
(06/14/2009 02:19:51 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok. No need to stay on cafepress ....
IP applies everywhere in the USA for us anyway
(06/14/2009 02:20:24 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: well right, but tracking all
that down is no easy task. cafe press is a good place to start, it seems.
(06/14/2009 02:20:24 PM) NeddySeagoon: Sounds good. We can continue this next
meeting now its moving
(06/14/2009 02:20:37 PM) fmccor: robbat2, Cats take precedent over almost
ererything else (except for my pythons, of course.)
(06/14/2009 02:20:53 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, I will report on said
action at that point, unless something demands the boards attention
(06/14/2009 02:20:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: yep. I was wondering if we should keep
an eye on Europe too as the e.V. is not very active
(06/14/2009 02:21:18 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: that is a good question, we
need to get that situation buttoned up
(06/14/2009 02:21:47 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: since we do not own the TM in
EU, it might prove difficult to operate as protectors
(06/14/2009 02:21:53 PM) ***fmccor thinks e.V., actice or not, is a plus for us.
(06/14/2009 02:22:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: We can keep an eye on whats happening but
we cannot enforce a copyright we don't own
(06/14/2009 02:22:15 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: unless they appoint us as proxy
for their board
(06/14/2009 02:22:18 PM) NeddySeagoon: We can poke the e.V. though
(06/14/2009 02:22:40 PM) NeddySeagoon: that works too
(06/14/2009 02:23:03 PM) fmccor: quantumsummers, I think we metioned that once,
or perhaps I only dreamed it?
(06/14/2009 02:23:03 PM) NeddySeagoon: Your last one quantumsummers
(06/14/2009 02:23:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: Foundation Knowledge Management Needs -
quantumsummers
(06/14/2009 02:23:42 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: re KM: I have all the initial
functionality in place, finishing theming atm
(06/14/2009 02:24:06 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I will host it on my infra, so
it will be easy for me to debug if any issues occur
(06/14/2009 02:24:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: progress ... that what was needed. Ok
wrt hosting
(06/14/2009 02:24:41 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok. I can get you guys into the
basic iface next week if you want
(06/14/2009 02:25:01 PM) NeddySeagoon: ok. It will be good to play with
(06/14/2009 02:25:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I will then need to write some
custom report modules as we discover new needs
(06/14/2009 02:25:04 PM) robbat2: back. cat made an escape attempt
(06/14/2009 02:25:17 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I can haz FREEDOM!?!
(06/14/2009 02:25:31 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair has 2 cats
(06/14/2009 02:25:46 PM) NeddySeagoon: cat ok robbat2
(06/14/2009 02:25:52 PM) robbat2: yeah
(06/14/2009 02:26:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: very much like garfield &
nermal, though not in appearance
(06/14/2009 02:26:05 PM) ***fmccor has 3 pythons. :)
(06/14/2009 02:26:11 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yikes
(06/14/2009 02:26:21 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ride then snake
(06/14/2009 02:26:22 PM) ***NeddySeagoon has a wife and son
(06/14/2009 02:26:25 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: :)
(06/14/2009 02:26:30 PM) tsunam_: heh
(06/14/2009 02:26:32 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair has wife
(06/14/2009 02:26:34 PM) NeddySeagoon: Trustees and Foundation Article For the
News Feed (was GMN)
(06/14/2009 02:26:57 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: is that thing public
yet?
(06/14/2009 02:27:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, sent me a link ... I failed due
to real life
(06/14/2009 02:27:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: new blag that is
(06/14/2009 02:27:14 PM) fmccor: Done, execpt for update following this meeting.
(06/14/2009 02:27:17 PM) robbat2: i'm not sure if nightmorph has launched it
(06/14/2009 02:27:36 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: ok, I need to send my bio
still. I will do that after the meeting
(06/14/2009 02:27:45 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: or suring, if time permits
(06/14/2009 02:27:53 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: *during
(06/14/2009 02:28:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, tsunam_ quantumsummers ... you
going to do something ?
(06/14/2009 02:28:20 PM) robbat2: if I get time, i'll see about a writeup for me
(06/14/2009 02:28:31 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I will, kick me for slacking on
that
(06/14/2009 02:28:41 PM) tsunam_: x2 to robbat2's comment
(06/14/2009 02:29:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: It will be a couple of months before I
get much time. I have a new job, so I'm winding down the old one ..
(06/14/2009 02:29:41 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam_, you are going to be busy on the
accounts ... that must come first
(06/14/2009 02:29:46 PM) tsunam_: *nods*
(06/14/2009 02:29:55 PM) tsunam_: been busy with that stuff for a while :(
(06/14/2009 02:30:10 PM) fmccor: tsunam_, Your picture says it all. :)
(06/14/2009 02:30:15 PM) NeddySeagoon: yeah.
(06/14/2009 02:30:17 PM) tsunam_: hah
(06/14/2009 02:30:22 PM) NeddySeagoon: 3. Actions From Previous Meetings on hold
for one or more actions above ...
(06/14/2009 02:30:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: Working with Gentoo e.V. - fmccor (On
hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V. meeting)
(06/14/2009 02:30:46 PM) NeddySeagoon: This is holding up all the rest un this
section
(06/14/2009 02:31:10 PM) fmccor: Haven't heard from e.V, and I prefer that they
keei the copywritht.
(06/14/2009 02:31:23 PM) fmccor: ^eei^eep
(06/14/2009 02:31:47 PM) fmccor: ^tht^ght^
(06/14/2009 02:31:57 PM) tsunam_: ...
(06/14/2009 02:32:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: It makes things easier but I don't want
it to die of neglect, like the Foundation almost did
(06/14/2009 02:32:34 PM) fmccor: No, I,m still on it.
(06/14/2009 02:32:45 PM) NeddySeagoon: It will be much more difficult to pick up
the pieces in Germany
(06/14/2009 02:33:35 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, what are you doing and when are
you going to do it by?
(06/14/2009 02:33:49 PM) NeddySeagoon: It must be difficult if the e.V don't
respond
(06/14/2009 02:34:34 PM) fmccor: All I can do is ask dertobi123 for progress. I
can't give a date bacause it's not in my control.
(06/14/2009 02:35:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: Its not in dertobi123s control either.
The e.V. board needs to meet
(06/14/2009 02:35:33 PM) fmccor: That's out of my control too.
(06/14/2009 02:35:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, do they have bylaws like we do
that can be used to force a meeting ?
(06/14/2009 02:36:15 PM) fmccor: They have bylaws. I'll have to read them again
to answer that.
(06/14/2009 02:36:49 PM) fmccor: They are a German corporation.
(06/14/2009 02:37:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: I would like to see the e.V survive, but
it needs to be pushed a little
(06/14/2009 02:37:16 PM) ***dertobi123 sighs
(06/14/2009 02:37:18 PM) NeddySeagoon: I don't read German at all
(06/14/2009 02:37:27 PM) dertobi123: just saw the hilight
(06/14/2009 02:37:46 PM) NeddySeagoon: dertobi123, welcome ... care to say a few
words ?
(06/14/2009 02:37:49 PM) ***fmccor does, but hasn't looked at them for a while.
(06/14/2009 02:38:24 PM) dertobi123: NeddySeagoon: i sent the mail i promised to
sent out to our members (and board, too), feedback is kinda like zero
(06/14/2009 02:39:10 PM) NeddySeagoon: dertobi123, I guessed that. I suspect
that he e.V is going through what the Foundation went through
(06/14/2009 02:39:27 PM) dertobi123: NeddySeagoon: yeah :(
(06/14/2009 02:39:37 PM) fmccor: dertobi123, From my point of view, strictly
mine, I'd prefer e.V to keep the trademarks(s) and work wit us.
(06/14/2009 02:39:50 PM) dertobi123: though we're making some (small) progress
on other things
(06/14/2009 02:40:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: dertobi123, do you have any suggestions
about how the Foundation can help the e.V.
(06/14/2009 02:40:00 PM) fmccor: ^wit^witt^
(06/14/2009 02:40:24 PM) fmccor: ^witt^with^ :)
(06/14/2009 02:41:01 PM) dertobi123: NeddySeagoon: not really. we finally need
to hold our general meeting (somewhen after the summer holidays probably) and
elect a new board.
(06/14/2009 02:41:30 PM) tsunam_: dertobi123: which holidays...germany has a
crap ton of them all the time :-P
(06/14/2009 02:41:50 PM) dertobi123: i'm trying to find other people who i
personally think might help as board members, but well ... i'm doing that for
quite some time now and wasn't that successful yet :/
(06/14/2009 02:42:04 PM) NeddySeagoon: dertobi123, can you estimate a month ?
So we can update our agenda please
(06/14/2009 02:42:18 PM) dertobi123: NeddySeagoon: late september or october
(06/14/2009 02:42:18 PM) fmccor: dertobi123, Is there any way I can participate?
My German is still functional but not fluent any more.
(06/14/2009 02:42:41 PM) dertobi123: NeddySeagoon: maybe some weeks earlier, but
the main problem isn't the meeting but to find a new board
(06/14/2009 02:43:41 PM) dertobi123: fmccor: we need to find people interested
in keeping the e.v. alive and doing work. not sure if someone from the states
can help with that. but if there's anything you could with i'll contact you
(06/14/2009 02:43:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: dertobi123, ok, we will not discuss the
topic until October then. Meanwhile, whe have two European orgainations that
have applied to us for licencing. they should have applied to the e.V. Is
there anything that can be done to help them ?
(06/14/2009 02:45:01 PM) fmccor: dertobi123, Thank you.
(06/14/2009 02:45:26 PM) dertobi123: NeddySeagoon: fwd their requests please, as
long as they're not doing anything commercial we don't have a problem with
that. if else it needs to be discussed.
(06/14/2009 02:45:56 PM) dertobi123: besides fmccor being in favor of us keeping
the trademark (correct), where do the other ones stand?
(06/14/2009 02:45:57 PM) fmccor: (das ist, Danke.)
(06/14/2009 02:46:03 PM) NeddySeagoon: dertobi123, ok. I'll forward them to you
and send them an update with whats happening
(06/14/2009 02:46:10 PM) dertobi123: ok
(06/14/2009 02:46:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: dertobi123, thanks for the update
(06/14/2009 02:46:51 PM) dertobi123: i'll mail -core/-project somewhen before
the general meeting, maybe we find some people interested in helping us
(06/14/2009 02:46:54 PM) dertobi123: *shrugs*
(06/14/2009 02:47:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: dertobi123, I would like to see a working
e.V. as it would be good to have seperate orgainisation in Europe and the USA
(06/14/2009 02:47:10 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: bonsaikitten: < might help
(06/14/2009 02:47:25 PM) bonsaikitten: what!
(06/14/2009 02:47:31 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: bonsaikitten: help gentoo ev
(06/14/2009 02:47:53 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I know ya wanna
(06/14/2009 02:47:55 PM) fmccor: dertobi123, I'm interested and will be
avaliable. And yes, partick is a good choice.
(06/14/2009 02:48:20 PM) fmccor: ^rt^tr^
(06/14/2009 02:48:51 PM) NeddySeagoon: Lets get back to our meeting
(06/14/2009 02:48:53 PM) fmccor: bonsaikitten, sorry to mangle your name. My
typing is generally bad.
(06/14/2009 02:49:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: # Licencing For emtom.cz - quantumsummers
(On hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V meeting)
(06/14/2009 02:49:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: # Licencing For Projektfarm GmbH -
quantumsummers (On Hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V meeting)
(06/14/2009 02:49:22 PM) NeddySeagoon: is covered
(06/14/2009 02:49:26 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: :)
(06/14/2009 02:49:55 PM) NeddySeagoon: Fix name and address on IPR/trademark
documents, 31 Aug 2008 meeting authorised the $200 fees - fmccor
(06/14/2009 02:50:57 PM) ***quantumsummers|Corsair thought that the above was
completed
(06/14/2009 02:51:26 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, ^
(06/14/2009 02:51:50 PM) fmccor: All a mess. I don't know what's happened, and
I don't think we have a lawyer looking at it.
(06/14/2009 02:52:08 PM) fmccor: Now, i can do forms, if I can find them.
(06/14/2009 02:52:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: what happened ? It was one of the Pro
Bono firms looking at it and the $200 was for fees
(06/14/2009 02:53:03 PM) fmccor: I want to move everything to Boston, but since
we are represented pro bono, we are not first priority,
(06/14/2009 02:53:13 PM) tsunam_: *nods8
(06/14/2009 02:53:31 PM) tsunam_: is there a reason for wanting to move
everything to the boston group?
(06/14/2009 02:53:32 PM) NeddySeagoon: I understand. Why the move though ?
(06/14/2009 02:53:39 PM) fmccor: NeddySeagoon, I know what happened, but it is a
private communication.
(06/14/2009 02:53:59 PM) NeddySeagoon: I respect that
(06/14/2009 02:54:23 PM) fmccor: I *think* the west coast firm is in some
trouble, but that is pure speculation.
(06/14/2009 02:54:59 PM) fmccor: For moving? Yes, it's more efficient.
(06/14/2009 02:55:08 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: sounds good to me
(06/14/2009 02:55:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: Is Boston interested in the work ?
(06/14/2009 02:55:41 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I will need to talk with them
once we have our temp 501c3 letter, it will make them happy to write off some
of the work
(06/14/2009 02:55:52 PM) fmccor: They were. But that's before our economy
tanked.
(06/14/2009 02:56:04 PM) tsunam_: *nods*
(06/14/2009 02:56:12 PM) tsunam_: yes the 501c3 would make them happy
(06/14/2009 02:57:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, See what you can find out from
both firms ... that you can share with the rest of us so we can make an
informed decision. I don't want us to act on speculation
(06/14/2009 02:57:12 PM) fmccor: Problem is they are pro bono. If we paid them,
there would be no problem. Personally, I think asking for free representation
is a loser, but no one has ever agreed with me.
(06/14/2009 02:57:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: Ask about fees too. Maybe in bad times
we would get a good price ?
(06/14/2009 02:57:51 PM) tsunam_: fmccor: even having a "retention" lawyer is
not cheap
(06/14/2009 02:58:02 PM) fmccor: NeddySeagoon, Will do. I've been holding off
just to see what west coast would say.
(06/14/2009 02:58:44 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, its all about getting the
information we need to make a decsion. Be it fee paying, moving ... whatever
(06/14/2009 02:59:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: 4 Open Bugs Assigned to Trustees
(06/14/2009 02:59:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: 253491 Gentoo Store - Add Case stickers,
badges ...
(06/14/2009 03:00:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: This is open to discuss rearranging the
link to the gentoo store.
(06/14/2009 03:00:29 PM) fmccor: We want to move --- just to consolidate if
nothing else. Boston is waiting to hear from Kazakhstan, and no one has
control over that. (Bug 264682)
(06/14/2009 03:00:30 PM) NeddySeagoon: All our licenced vendors should have a
link here
(06/14/2009 03:00:30 PM) Willikins:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/264682 "www.linuxcenter.kz wish to be our vendors in
Kazakhstan"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; NEW; fmccor@g.o:trustees@g.o
(06/14/2009 03:01:41 PM) NeddySeagoon: I have nothing against the
move/consolidation as long as we don't lose any skills in the process
(06/14/2009 03:02:26 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, how do we get a Gentoo Stores
page, in place of a single link ?
(06/14/2009 03:02:53 PM) robbat2: easy enough
(06/14/2009 03:03:09 PM) NeddySeagoon: Who has access besides you ?
(06/14/2009 03:03:13 PM) robbat2: i'll put it at /main/en/stores.xml
(06/14/2009 03:03:17 PM) robbat2: the web team
(06/14/2009 03:03:21 PM) robbat2: neysx chiefly
(06/14/2009 03:03:53 PM) robbat2:
cvsweb:!:3001:pauldv,klieber,g2boojum,neysx,solar,ramereth,fox2mike,nightmorph,robbat2,musikc,dberkholz,antarus,jmbsvicetto,ford_prefect
(06/14/2009 03:04:05 PM) NeddySeagoon: So we would have to raise a bug to get it
changed ?
(06/14/2009 03:04:29 PM) robbat2: i can just give somebody else amongst the
trustees perms
(06/14/2009 03:04:32 PM) robbat2: that has two of us then
(06/14/2009 03:04:46 PM) robbat2: you want it?
(06/14/2009 03:04:54 PM) NeddySeagoon: amd musikc is there two, she looks after
the shop
(06/14/2009 03:05:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: OK, as long as the web team is happy with
that
(06/14/2009 03:05:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: What I ahve in mind is a list of approved
vendors and an invitation to report any unapproved ones
(06/14/2009 03:06:20 PM) robbat2: ok, i'll make a simple page for the moment,
and give you perms, and you can improve it thereafter
(06/14/2009 03:06:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, tsunam_ quantumsummers ^^ are
you ok with that ?
(06/14/2009 03:06:36 PM) fmccor: Yes.
(06/14/2009 03:06:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, works for me.
(06/14/2009 03:07:01 PM) NeddySeagoon: Do we need a vote ?
(06/14/2009 03:07:27 PM) tsunam_: sure
(06/14/2009 03:07:35 PM) tsunam_: don't believe we need one
(06/14/2009 03:07:39 PM) fmccor: Yes, again.
(06/14/2009 03:07:53 PM) NeddySeagoon: We seem to have a majority anyway.
(06/14/2009 03:08:08 PM) NeddySeagoon: 254249 gentoo.org Website Redesign
(06/14/2009 03:08:27 PM) NeddySeagoon: #254249
(06/14/2009 03:08:55 PM) NeddySeagoon: This keeps coming up but nobody wants to
do it. Lets close it
(06/14/2009 03:09:12 PM) NeddySeagoon: !254249
(06/14/2009 03:09:13 PM) fmccor: Works for me.
(06/14/2009 03:09:37 PM) NeddySeagoon: tsunam_, quantumsummers robbat2 ^^
(06/14/2009 03:09:47 PM) robbat2: +!
(06/14/2009 03:09:49 PM) robbat2: err
(06/14/2009 03:09:50 PM) robbat2: +1
(06/14/2009 03:09:50 PM) tsunam_: we can close it :(
(06/14/2009 03:10:18 PM) NeddySeagoon: #254588 Possible confusion over use of
the Gentoo Penguin (Quicktime Penguin) Logo
(06/14/2009 03:10:25 PM) jmbsvicetto: robbat2: I now have access to cvsweb?
(06/14/2009 03:10:38 PM) jmbsvicetto: robbat2: I wasn't aware of that
(06/14/2009 03:10:42 PM) NeddySeagoon: Did this get fixed ? The main page
didn't use tux last time I looked
(06/14/2009 03:11:05 PM) robbat2: look at "Website tweaks bring more life and
usability to the homepage"
(06/14/2009 03:11:07 PM) robbat2: it's there still
(06/14/2009 03:11:15 PM) robbat2: assuming that's the one people were talking
about
(06/14/2009 03:11:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: yep, its still wrong. We are moving to
the kernel logo
(06/14/2009 03:12:31 PM) NeddySeagoon: The new image was on the bug ... so how
do we throw the switch and who do we poke ?
(06/14/2009 03:15:25 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, tsunam_ quantumsummers fmccor
^^^
(06/14/2009 03:15:39 PM) tsunam_: we need to change it so *shrugs*
(06/14/2009 03:15:39 PM) robbat2: one sec, i'm just finishing the stores.xml
(06/14/2009 03:16:05 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: the image needs to change
(06/14/2009 03:16:35 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I have no opinion on the web
redesign bug, as I am moving forward on something alone it appears
(06/14/2009 03:16:44 PM) NeddySeagoon: Who takes the the work on the bug and
applies it to the website ?
(06/14/2009 03:16:50 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I'll finish it & submit for
comments
(06/14/2009 03:17:02 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: no idea who does that
(06/14/2009 03:17:04 PM) robbat2: stores.xml will go live on the next web update
pass
(06/14/2009 03:17:08 PM) tsunam_: k
(06/14/2009 03:17:09 PM) robbat2: i'll do the image change in a moment too
(06/14/2009 03:17:20 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, I don't think the web
redesign is related to what you are doing
(06/14/2009 03:17:20 PM) robbat2: Willikins, bug 254588
(06/14/2009 03:17:23 PM) Willikins: robbat2:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/254588 "Possible confusion over use of the Gentoo
Penguin (Quicktime Penguin) Logo"; Documentation, Other documents; REOP;
fmccor@g.o:trustees@g.o
(06/14/2009 03:17:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, thanks
(06/14/2009 03:19:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: bug 264682 linuxcenter.kz wish to be our
vendors in Kazakhstan
(06/14/2009 03:19:02 PM) Willikins: NeddySeagoon:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/264682 "www.linuxcenter.kz wish to be our vendors in
Kazakhstan"; Gentoo Foundation, Proposals; NEW; fmccor@g.o:trustees@g.o
(06/14/2009 03:19:48 PM) fmccor: Let's just bless them. They are going to do it
whatever we say, and the had the courtesy to ask.
(06/14/2009 03:20:19 PM) NeddySeagoon: OK, In view of lawyer termoil, I agree
(06/14/2009 03:20:31 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: me too
(06/14/2009 03:20:36 PM) tsunam_: k
(06/14/2009 03:20:48 PM) fmccor: To register the trademarks will be very
expensive, if the local lawyers even respond at all.
(06/14/2009 03:20:57 PM) NeddySeagoon: quantumsummers, you want to write to them
please
(06/14/2009 03:21:07 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: NeddySeagoon: can do
(06/14/2009 03:21:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, lets ask them if they can
reccomend a law firm
(06/14/2009 03:22:28 PM) robbat2: penguin icon changed
(06/14/2009 03:22:30 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I can add that to the letter I
send
(06/14/2009 03:22:33 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: thanks robbat2
(06/14/2009 03:22:49 PM) fmccor: Can do. Please prod me later if I don'd do
anything. (Headache is worse, and I'm fading.)
(06/14/2009 03:22:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: thanks robbat2
(06/14/2009 03:23:20 PM) robbat2: is that all of the bugs done?
(06/14/2009 03:23:31 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yesir
(06/14/2009 03:23:33 PM) NeddySeagoon: I propose we skip items 5-9 on the agenda
as its been a long meeting and there is nothing urgent there
(06/14/2009 03:23:33 PM) fmccor: Yes.
(06/14/2009 03:23:45 PM) robbat2: 8/9 we can do, should just be votes?
(06/14/2009 03:24:01 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I agree, lets do 8 & 9
(06/14/2009 03:24:09 PM) robbat2: #
(06/14/2009 03:24:09 PM) robbat2: *
(06/14/2009 03:24:09 PM) robbat2: o
(06/14/2009 03:24:09 PM) robbat2: # Appoint Roy Bamford as Chairman of the
Gentoo Linux Foundation Inc
(06/14/2009 03:24:09 PM) robbat2: # Appoint Ferris McCormick as Vice-Chairman of
the Gentoo Linux Foundation Inc
(06/14/2009 03:24:19 PM) robbat2: oops, sorry about the weird header
(06/14/2009 03:24:23 PM) fmccor: No, let's just do * & 9. It;s pure
administrative, and we need to do it.
(06/14/2009 03:24:29 PM) NeddySeagoon: robbat2, if you want. It make it easy to
split the offices and trustee positions later if we ant to
(06/14/2009 03:24:37 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: motion: appoint Roy chair &
Ferris Vice-Chair
(06/14/2009 03:24:46 PM) NeddySeagoon: secpnded
(06/14/2009 03:24:50 PM) NeddySeagoon: seconded
(06/14/2009 03:24:54 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Votes?
(06/14/2009 03:24:56 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: yes
(06/14/2009 03:24:59 PM) robbat2: aye
(06/14/2009 03:25:00 PM) NeddySeagoon: yes
(06/14/2009 03:25:01 PM) fmccor: Yes.
(06/14/2009 03:25:11 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: tsunam_: ^?
(06/14/2009 03:25:16 PM) tsunam_: yep
(06/14/2009 03:25:22 PM) NeddySeagoon: carried
(06/14/2009 03:25:31 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: Congrats, majority approve Roy
& Ferris as all round great fellas
(06/14/2009 03:25:36 PM) NeddySeagoon: Date of Next Meeting - 12th July 2009
(06/14/2009 03:25:38 PM) NeddySeagoon: hehe
(06/14/2009 03:25:49 PM) robbat2: i may be late or absent, depends on my flight
to Montreal
(06/14/2009 03:25:50 PM) ***fmccor will take that out of his write-up, then.
(06/14/2009 03:25:55 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: lol
(06/14/2009 03:26:07 PM) NeddySeagoon: thats from our Calendar
(06/14/2009 03:26:15 PM) ***fmccor loves Montreal
(06/14/2009 03:26:29 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: I will be on a place at that
time, going from Cali, but I may be able to make some of the meeting
(06/14/2009 03:26:29 PM) robbat2: in theory I'll be landing in the airport
around 1855UTC
(06/14/2009 03:26:52 PM) NeddySeagoon: Should we change the date/time then ?
(06/14/2009 03:26:59 PM) tsunam_: hmm might be a good idea to have it another
day then with 2 memebers traveling
(06/14/2009 03:27:14 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: sorry for the trouble, my wife
is in a wedding
(06/14/2009 03:27:16 PM) fmccor: Move it back a week if it helps.
(06/14/2009 03:27:21 PM) NeddySeagoon: I can do 1900 UTC any day
(06/14/2009 03:27:24 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: that'll work well
(06/14/2009 03:27:30 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: the next sunday that is
(06/14/2009 03:27:39 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: could try Monday as well
(06/14/2009 03:27:45 PM) robbat2: how's the day before?
(06/14/2009 03:27:49 PM) NeddySeagoon: fmccor, you mean 5th or 19th >
(06/14/2009 03:27:59 PM) fmccor: 19th
(06/14/2009 03:28:02 PM) tsunam_: I'd prefer the 19th
(06/14/2009 03:28:04 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: robbat2: My net access may be
spotty
(06/14/2009 03:28:21 PM) NeddySeagoon: I can do the 19th
(06/14/2009 03:28:22 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: 19th is good here
(06/14/2009 03:28:25 PM) robbat2: 19th +1 for me
(06/14/2009 03:28:32 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: sold
(06/14/2009 03:28:47 PM) NeddySeagoon: Ok, its the 19th at 1900UTC
(06/14/2009 03:29:02 PM) NeddySeagoon: Any other business ?
(06/14/2009 03:29:14 PM) robbat2: none since we ran overtime already
(06/14/2009 03:29:21 PM) NeddySeagoon: seems fair
(06/14/2009 03:29:26 PM) NeddySeagoon: Open Floor ...
(06/14/2009 03:29:30 PM) quantumsummers|Corsair: it might be good to do a
training sometime on the KM stuff, but I'll email around
(06/14/2009 03:29:55 PM) ***NeddySeagoon declares the meeting closed
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<b>Time and Venue</b>
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<b>Sunday, 14 June 2009 1900 UTC on irc.freenode.net #gentoo-trustees</b>
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<b>Agenda</b>
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<li>Introductions</li>
<li>Actions From the Last Meeting
<ul>
<li>Certified Public Accountant - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Send friendly cease and desist emails to copyright infringers - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Treasurers Report for FY ending 30 June 2008</li>
<li>Foundation Knowledge Management Needs - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Trustees and Foundation Article For the News Feed (was GMN)</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Actions From Previous Meetings on hold for one or more actions above
<ul>
<li>Working with Gentoo e.V. - fmccor (On hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V. meeting)</li>
<li>Licencing For emtom.cz - quantumsummers (On hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V meeting)</li>
<li>Licencing For Projektfarm GmbH - quantumsummers (On Hold for Feb/Mar Gentoo e.V meeting)</li>
<li>Fix name and address on IPR/trademark documents, 31 Aug 2008 meeting authorised the $200 fees - fmccor</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Open Bugs Assigned to Trustees
<ul>
<li>253491 Gentoo Store - Add Case stickers, badges</li>
<li>254249 gentoo.org Website Redesign</li>
<li>254588 Possible confusion over use of the Gentoo Penguin (Quicktime Penguin) Logo</li>
<li>264682 linuxcenter.kz wish to be our vendors in Kazakhstan </li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>New Licence Applications
<ul>
<li>None yet</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>The Year Ahead</li>
<li>Membership Applications - if you have applied and you are not listed below, please remind the trustees
<ul>
<li>Gentoo Developers
<ul>
<li>None yet</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>Community Members
<ul>
<li>None yet</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
</li>
<li>Appoint Roy Bamford as Chairman of the Gentoo Linux Foundation Inc</li>
<li>Appoint Ferris McCormick as Vice-Chairman of the Gentoo Linux Foundation Inc</li>
<li>Date of Next Meeting - 12th July 2009</li>
<li>Any other business</li>
<li>Open floor</li>
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<b>Meeting Conduct</b>
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<p>
The channel will be open (not moderated) during the meeting unless there is so much chatter it becomes impossible to
make progress.
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<p>
Attendees can help by keeping questions to the end of an agenda item or the end of the meeting - your
point may be covered during the discussion anyway.
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<p>
Do not expect to bring up items in Any Other Business and get an instant response. Calm considered well
reasoned emails to <mail link="trustees@gentoo.org">the trustees</mail> or opening a bug are the best ways
to bring up new ideas.
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<b>Record Keeping</b>
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<p>
The meeting will be logged and both the <uri link="http://www.gentoo.org/foundation/en/minutes/">full log and a summary</uri>
of decisions will be made publicaly available
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20:00 * NeddySeagoon calls the meeting to order
20:00 <@NeddySeagoon> Roll call
20:00 <@robbat2|na> yo
20:00 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, robbat2|na fmccor quantumsummers
20:00 <@tsunam> yep
20:00 -!- robbat2|na is now known as robbat2
20:00 <@fmccor> Here. All snakes are toxic.
20:01 <@NeddySeagoon> ok, we have a quorum, skipping Introductions, Actions From the Last Meeting ... and quantumsummers stuff
20:01 <@NeddySeagoon> Treasurers Report for FY ending 30 June 2008 - tsunam
20:02 <@fmccor> Some will kill you, some just hurt a lot.
20:02 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, you were going to pass it to robbat2 for checking
20:02 <@tsunam> I've just pushed to cvs the changes for the website that will bring us up to date
20:02 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, So its complete, or does it need to be checked still ?
20:03 <@tsunam> NeddySeagoon: it should be check. I still need to balance so that we are current with what we have phsically
20:03 <@tsunam> in cash
20:03 <@quantumsummers> hi
20:04 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, ok, we will leave the action until thats complete
20:04 <@tsunam> so I still have some work to do to be considered entirely complete but it at least has the paypal + paypal fee's complete
20:04 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, hi, your stuff
20:04 <@quantumsummers> yea
20:05 <@NeddySeagoon> Certified Public Accountant - quantumsummers
20:05 <@quantumsummers> CPA awaits financials from tsunam, we're in good shape. also need the fins validated for 501c3, I will be sending a checklist to tsunam soon
20:05 <@NeddySeagoon> fins ?
20:05 <@quantumsummers> financials
20:05 <@tsunam> fins = financials
20:05 <@quantumsummers> sorry
20:05 <@NeddySeagoon> thanks
20:06 <@tsunam> note: part of that financials includes the equipment that we own
20:06 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, does that mean we have retained a CPA who will be billing us ?
20:06 <@tsunam> as trustee's have noted I've got part of the info from infra, but I beleive we have some switches etc we own as well
20:07 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: I have been "taking care" of any cost associated with the CPA talks as part of my normal fees
20:07 <@tsunam> quantumsummers: bah :(
20:07 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, id its old stiff, we can write it down to zero value. No idea if that helps
20:07 <@quantumsummers> so, basically there is no cost until we need them to do something besides give advice
20:07 <@tsunam> NeddySeagoon: not old enough yet
20:08 <@robbat2> what's the age requirements for that?
20:08 <@quantumsummers> we need 7 years of financials due to SOX rules
20:08 <@robbat2> i don't think we have any switches, but we do have some serial consoles
20:08 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, Hmm, ok. keep a record of the 'donations' you have been makeing
20:08 <@quantumsummers> maintain 7 years
20:08 <@tsunam> quantumsummers: at most we have 2005 q3 forward. We don't have anything before that
20:09 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: no real way to do that, I get a flat rate per year, so its all good. I dont think I am being charged extra
20:09 <@tsunam> quantumsummers: let me know if you are
20:09 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, what about donations in kind ... although, they were never made to the Foundation ?
20:09 <@quantumsummers> tsunam: ok, it is what it is
20:09 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, thanks, its all good then
20:10 <@tsunam> NeddySeagoon: those I don't actually track, as its been next to impossible to get a value of what the rates would be from those vendors
20:10 <@tsunam> NeddySeagoon: I've tried in the past
20:10 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, Is it important to the IRS ?
20:11 <@tsunam> for 501c3 I beleive there's some requirements but quantumsummers would kow better then me at this point on that aspect
20:11 <@NeddySeagoon> ok
20:11 <@quantumsummers> looking
20:11 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, later ...
20:11 <@quantumsummers> seems like we should be ok, I have an instrument to collect this info now, for future use
20:11 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, Send friendly cease and desist emails to copyright infringers - quantumsummers
20:12 <@quantumsummers> C&Ds have been sent to Cafepress, they gave me a 30 to 60 day thing, so I'm following up every couple of weeks
20:12 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, any others ?
20:12 <@quantumsummers> I have not sent any to other places, as I have no record of outstanding issues
20:12 <@NeddySeagoon> ok
20:12 <@quantumsummers> I think a bug for each would be nice so I can track easier
20:12 <@quantumsummers> atm I use a simple list
20:12 <@NeddySeagoon> worksforme
20:12 <@quantumsummers> kk
20:13 <@NeddySeagoon> Trustees and Foundation Article For the News Feed -All. I've updated my input and added fmccors
20:13 * quantumsummers facepalm
20:13 <@quantumsummers> I need to write a little ditty7
20:13 <@robbat2> yeah, me too
20:13 <@quantumsummers> oh, wait. I have something
20:13 * tsunam is a slacker as well
20:14 * quantumsummers sends intial draft
20:14 <@NeddySeagoon> http://dev.gentoo.org/~neddyseagoon/docs/trustees_GMN.xml
20:14 <@NeddySeagoon> thats what we have so far ^^^
20:15 <@NeddySeagoon> Forward the Projektfarm GmbH and emtom.cz applications to dertobi123 - NeddySeagoon
20:15 <@NeddySeagoon> I did that yesterday. RL has been hetic
20:15 <@NeddySeagoon> Talk to Lawyers about fees and impact of 501c3 staus - fmccor
20:16 <@NeddySeagoon> ping fmccor ..
20:16 <@tsunam> maybe one of the kids escaped
20:16 <@NeddySeagoon> He must be bathing his snake bites
20:17 <@NeddySeagoon> Write to www.linuxcenter.kz to inform them of approval - quantumsummers
20:17 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, than you can close the bug
20:17 <@NeddySeagoon> ten*
20:18 <@NeddySeagoon> we can come back to that
20:18 <@NeddySeagoon> 3. Actions From Previous Meetings on hold for one or more actions above
20:18 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: gotcha
20:19 <@NeddySeagoon> The Gentoo e.V meeting is unlikely to be held until October
20:19 <@quantumsummers> hmm. ok
20:19 <@NeddySeagoon> so that brings us to Fix name and address on IPR/trademark documents, 31 Aug 2008 meeting authorised the $200 fees - fmccor
20:21 <@NeddySeagoon> 4. Open Bugs Assigned to Trustees
20:21 <@NeddySeagoon> 261785 Transfer gentoo.be from Sejo to the Gentoo Foundation, Inc.- Reimburse robbat2
20:21 <@NeddySeagoon> robbat2, did you get your money back ?
20:21 <@tsunam> nope he has not
20:22 <@robbat2> not yet
20:22 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, is that on your todo list or do you need more votes on the bug ?
20:23 <@tsunam> its a low enough value I should be able to just approve it myself, but the added votes is not bad that you did
20:23 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, fmccor see bug 261785 and consider adding your votes in favour
20:23 < Willikins> NeddySeagoon: https://bugs.gentoo.org/261785 "transfer gentoo.be from Sejo to the Gentoo Foundation, Inc."; Gentoo Infrastructure, Other; ASSI; quantumsummers@g.o:infra-bugs@g.o
20:24 <@NeddySeagoon> 253491 Gentoo Store - Add Case stickers, badges see draft stores page
20:24 <@NeddySeagoon> http://dev.gentoo.org/~neddyseagoon/stores.xml feedback anyone ?
20:25 <@quantumsummers> NeddySeagoon: that is a nice page, I like it
20:25 <@robbat2> +1 on it
20:25 <@robbat2> commit it
20:26 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, look at the Techiant, LLC , they have their copyright over our logo. I don't think they can do that
20:26 <@NeddySeagoon> Techiant, LLC link
20:26 <@quantumsummers> I do have something to mention here, regarding NeddySeagoon's point, yes there is a problem with the watermark
20:26 <@robbat2> on this page: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/where.xml there's places that sell CDs, can we move that list to the stores.xml too?
20:26 <@NeddySeagoon> robbat2, OK, I'll commit it after the meeting
20:27 <@fmccor> Problem with lawyers is that they are pressed for money. Clients have none, and it "trickles down" --- so I can't push them.
20:27 <@NeddySeagoon> robbat2 yes. I'll fix that after the meeting
20:27 <@tsunam> I would agree with robin's suggestion for getting cd's, badges etc all on one page
20:27 <@robbat2> seperate CDs from approved merchanise
20:27 <@tsunam> fmccor: would it be beneficial to talk about becoming a at least in part "paying" client
20:27 <@robbat2> on the page
20:27 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, So if we pay them ... how much
20:27 <@NeddySeagoon> robbat2, agreed
20:28 <@fmccor> tsunam, Yes.
20:28 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, did you open discussions ?
20:28 <@tsunam> fmccor: only issue I see is the "what defines what we pay for and what's probono still"
20:28 <@fmccor> No, awaiting decision here.
20:28 <@tsunam> that would need to be clearly defined obviously
20:29 <@tsunam> fmccor: would it most beneficial to do it based on "hours"? first x hours are probono, after that at $x rate?
20:29 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, the other way around is more benefical to the law firm
20:30 <@NeddySeagoon> brb
20:30 <@tsunam> k
20:30 <@robbat2> money for bug 261785 recieved :-)
20:30 < Willikins> robbat2: https://bugs.gentoo.org/261785 "transfer gentoo.be from Sejo to the Gentoo Foundation, Inc."; Gentoo Infrastructure, Other; ASSI; quantumsummers@g.o:infra-bugs@g.o
20:30 <@tsunam> k
20:30 <@tsunam> I'll close it then
20:30 <@quantumsummers> nice
20:32 <@fmccor> tsunam, Yes, good idea. Our Boston lawyer is going to be about $500/hour. but I think we can negotiate something. Problem is as I said --- no one wants to pay lawyers in this economy, and it trickles down. ...
20:32 <@tsunam> *nods*
20:32 <@tsunam> fmccor: obviously I would hope we could negotiate a lower rate
20:33 <@tsunam> the other option is something like an annual retainer. Those are the 2 main options reguarding lawyer firms that I'm aware of
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20:33 <@tsunam> as we're small enough and don't have much in the way of lawyering that needs to be done the former should be better for us I believe
20:33 <@fmccor> tsunam, Yes, so would I. They must exist, and that's the problem. San Diego lawyer is not there any more.
20:35 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, you were also suggesting moving everything to Boston
20:35 <@fmccor> Yes --- California lawyer is gone.
20:36 <@tsunam> then there's really no option, we should do it
20:36 <@NeddySeagoon> agreed
20:36 <@quantumsummers|c> I agree
20:36 <@fmccor> ^San Diego^San Jose
20:36 <@NeddySeagoon> Does that count as a vote ?
20:36 <@tsunam> fmccor: I think you just got your approval
20:36 <@tsunam> I would say yes
20:36 <@quantumsummers|c> good enough for me :)
20:36 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, you just got your approval.
20:37 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, and sorry about my poor geography
20:38 <@tsunam> should have a vote to enter discussion about becoming a paid client for lawyers
20:38 <@robbat2> +1 on moving it
20:38 <@fmccor> OK. I can say then that she was laid off, and I have not heard of a replacement. I'll contact Boston to see if they are still around.
20:38 <@NeddySeagoon> discussions are harmless. We need to know what our options are +1
20:39 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, I hope she has found another job.
20:40 <@fmccor> NeddySeagoon, So do I. She is very good, but specialised in a bad market.
20:40 <@NeddySeagoon> Vote on entering into discussions with Boston law firm wrt to becoming paying clients in some respect
20:40 <@tsunam> aye
20:40 <@robbat2> aye
20:40 <@NeddySeagoon> aye
20:40 <@quantumsummers|c> yes
20:40 <@fmccor> aye
20:40 <@NeddySeagoon> Carried
20:40 <@quantumsummers|c> recorded
20:40 <@NeddySeagoon> there you go fmccor.
20:41 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, where does that leave Fix name and address on IPR/trademark documents, 31 Aug 2008 meeting authorised the $200 fees ?
20:41 <@fmccor> I'll start on it next week, middle of my dental surgery.
20:42 <@NeddySeagoon> It will be a year old next month
20:42 <@NeddySeagoon> ok
20:42 <@NeddySeagoon> Item 5 New Licence Applications ... None
20:43 <@NeddySeagoon> Item 6 Membership Applications - None
20:43 <@fmccor> That should have been done. I haven't a clue where it is, and that's part of moving things to Boston.
20:44 <@NeddySeagoon> Yeah, thats what I thought. Have we been billed for the $200 ? If not, its probably not done
20:45 <@NeddySeagoon> Item 7 New Business ... Terms of Screenshot Contest ...
20:45 <@fmccor> I *think* it's hung up with the feds --- otherwise, she was just lying to me.
20:45 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, can we find out ?
20:45 <@fmccor> Yes
20:45 <@NeddySeagoon> please do
20:46 <@NeddySeagoon> dabbott, was wanting to clairify some terms of the Screenshot Contest, so we could use the submittals
20:47 * quantumsummers|c suggests the cc-sa-nc lic for this one
20:48 <@quantumsummers|c> share alike-non-commercial should be good, yes?
20:49 <@robbat2> +1 from me
20:49 <@quantumsummers|c> do we have a precendent?
20:49 * quantumsummers|c looks
20:50 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, I'm happy with that but often in the artistic community, the artist retains IP in a work. As long as Gentoo can use it at no charge, I'm happy
20:50 <+jmbsvicetto> quantumsummers|c: Isn't cc-sa-nc the license we already use for doc contributions?
20:50 <@quantumsummers|c> jmbsvicetto: hmm, not sure. it is what is used on http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/shots.xml
20:51 <@robbat2> that page is just BY-SA 2.5
20:52 <@quantumsummers|c> handbook is attribution share-alike
20:52 <+jmbsvicetto> quantumsummers|c: looking at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gdp/doc/doc-policy.xml#doc_chap3 , seems they use by-sa 2.5
20:52 <@robbat2> do we really need the -NC variant?
20:52 <@quantumsummers|c> robbat2: not really
20:53 <@quantumsummers|c> by-sa-2.5 is good
20:53 <@robbat2> ok, so just make it explicitly BY-SA 2.5, to match existing licensing
20:53 <@quantumsummers|c> yes, good
20:53 <@quantumsummers|c> interesting that the nc is omitted for our docs, probably better that way
20:54 <@quantumsummers|c> good the way it is, I mean
20:54 <@robbat2> yeah, I think commercial remixs that are sold, but include the proper attributions are perfectly fine
20:54 <@quantumsummers|c> +1
20:54 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, tsunam ^^
20:54 <@tsunam> it is fine with me
20:54 <@NeddySeagoon> me too.
20:55 <@fmccor> Yes, should be PK.
20:55 <@fmccor> ^OK
20:55 <@NeddySeagoon> So we are agreed that the licence should be by-sa-2.5
20:55 <@fmccor> yes
20:55 <@quantumsummers|c> yes
20:56 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, please respond to dabbotts emial
20:56 <@quantumsummers|c> NeddySeagoon: yes sir
20:56 <+dabbott> ty
20:56 <@NeddySeagoon> dabbott, there you are
20:56 <+dabbott> yes
20:57 <@NeddySeagoon> Next Item The Year Ahead
20:57 <@NeddySeagoon> Only its a little over 6 months now
20:57 <@NeddySeagoon> We were all supposed to contribute ideas for this discussion but I've not seen anything on the ml
20:58 <@NeddySeagoon> Does anyone have anything now ?
20:58 <@quantumsummers|c> my manifesto covers much of my thoughts
20:58 <@quantumsummers|c> 501c3 is HUGE
20:58 <@quantumsummers|c> seems like our mission is strong
20:59 <@fmccor> I'd like to bring musikc in for this, although she's not around now. She has some ideas for us and wishes to contribute.
20:59 <@quantumsummers|c> great!
20:59 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, yep, my main concern is finding trustees in the future
20:59 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, fine, I'm in no hurry to discuss it right now
21:00 <@quantumsummers|c> NeddySeagoon: indeed, is there any interest in soliciting folks from the broader f/oss or commercial worlds?
21:00 <@NeddySeagoon> Sure, we should find out what the community wants us to do, since we need to promote Gentoo to the community
21:01 <@quantumsummers|c> I agree, but how to reach the silent majority
21:01 <@robbat2> regarding promotion, I ran an imprompt Gentoo BoF session at the Linux Symposium last week
21:01 <@quantumsummers|c> perhaps an eselect news item? is that permitted?
21:02 <@quantumsummers|c> robbat2: nice, how was it?
21:02 <@fmccor> NeddySeagoon, My vision is to pass things off to the officers, and for the board to stand back. But then, we are the officers....
21:02 <@robbat2> even amongst the gentoo users in the room (15% of attendees), they aren't aware of stuff that has been going on
21:02 <@NeddySeagoon> Thats always a problem ... thats a good one, we would need to get the council to agree
21:03 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, we will always need trustees - but I agree about getting officers to do the work
21:03 <@fmccor> exactly.
21:03 <@quantumsummers|c> eselect news seems like a good way to get things in front of users
21:03 <@quantumsummers|c> albeit annoying
21:04 <@NeddySeagoon> It will be interesting to see what the competition is like in the Feb 2010 election
21:05 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, lets get it on the council agenda for the next meeting, not tomorrows, the one after
21:05 <@quantumsummers|c> NeddySeagoon: ok
21:05 <@NeddySeagoon> maybe get a Gentoo is 10 enews item too
21:05 <@quantumsummers|c> yes, I like that\
21:05 <@NeddySeagoon> dabbott, ^^
21:06 <@quantumsummers|c> NeddySeagoon: anyone know the best way to reach council, alias?
21:06 <@robbat2> yup
21:06 <@NeddySeagoon> Any more for the year ahead ?
21:06 <@fmccor> NeddySeagoon, with all due respect, for once we are in much better shape than council. :)
21:06 <@robbat2> the alias goes to the council plus the private archive
21:06 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, hehe yea
21:07 <@quantumsummers|c> robbat2: thanks
21:07 <@quantumsummers|c> I will email them
21:07 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, on
21:07 <@NeddySeagoon> Date of Next Meeting - Sunday 16th August 2009 at 1900 UTC
21:07 <@tsunam> that'll work for me
21:07 <@NeddySeagoon> Is that OK for everyone ?
21:08 <@quantumsummers|c> NeddySeagoon: on the use of eselect
21:08 <@quantumsummers|c> works for me
21:08 <@fmccor> I'll open discussions with our Boston lawyers tomorrow. 16 August is my birthday, and I expect a party. :)
21:09 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, yeah, we want the council to agree to two eselect news items. One for us and one for Gentoo is 10
21:09 <@quantumsummers|c> NeddySeagoon: ok
21:09 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, You could invite us all, then we don't need to use IRC
21:09 <@robbat2> that date is good for me
21:10 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, are you willing to give up an hour of your birthday ?
21:10 <@fmccor> NeddySeagoon, Yes.
21:10 <@quantumsummers|c> :)
21:10 <@NeddySeagoon> ok , Sunday 16th August 2009 at 1900 UTC it is then
21:11 <@NeddySeagoon> Any other business
21:11 <@quantumsummers|c> yes
21:11 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, on you go
21:11 <@robbat2> other business:
21:11 <@quantumsummers|c> 2 things
21:11 <@robbat2> armin76 relays that Marvell would like to use our logo for presentations and linking back to us to for their hardware that can run gentoo
21:12 <@robbat2> they've donated some hardware to armin76, and will also be donating another dev system
21:12 <@quantumsummers|c> that is awesome
21:12 <@NeddySeagoon> Sonds linke we just need and acknowledgement
21:12 <@quantumsummers|c> should be fine
21:13 <@tsunam> yeah
21:13 <@robbat2> I think we just need to get them to include a trademark notice on the logo on the webpage, in presentations it'll probably be fine
21:13 <@quantumsummers|c> the TM can go in ALT tag
21:13 <@NeddySeagoon> yeah, we don't want to mess up their presentaions
21:13 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, we have a precendent for that
21:14 <@quantumsummers|c> yes
21:14 <@robbat2> just word it that it is somewhere with the logo, I don't think we need to be that specific to be in the ALT
21:14 <@quantumsummers|c> ok
21:14 <@NeddySeagoon> I'm ok with that
21:14 <@robbat2> i've got one more item, quantumsummers what are your 2 items?
21:14 <@NeddySeagoon> fmccor, tsunam ?
21:14 <@quantumsummers|c> robbat2: go ahead
21:14 <@tsunam> nothing from me
21:15 <@NeddySeagoon> tsunam, on the logo thing ^^
21:15 <@tsunam> oh its fine with me
21:15 <@fmccor> Nothing more from me.
21:15 <@robbat2> related to the new dev system, the hardware is either going to end up at SevenL in Toronto (with other dev systems), OR in Vancouver at Serenity networks (i've got an independent discussion with them, more details in a sec)
21:16 <@robbat2> regardless of where it ends up, we're going to need to be buying some supporting bits
21:16 <@robbat2> i haven't filled in any budgeting plans yet, but i'd just like an ack for the general concept
21:16 * fmccor approves
21:16 <@tsunam> what bits are you requiring robbat2 ?
21:17 <@quantumsummers|c> good wiith that here
21:17 <@NeddySeagoon> robbat2, how much money? You best WAG
21:17 <@NeddySeagoon> your*
21:17 <@tsunam> see NeddySeagoon asks the right question. I ask as a techy person :-P
21:17 <@robbat2> infra to run it: remote PDU, switch, - together probably $500-$1k
21:17 <@robbat2> of components: RAM/HDD/cables: probably $500 total
21:17 <@tsunam> so 1-1.5k in total
21:18 * fmccor approves that as well.
21:18 <@NeddySeagoon> Sounds ok to me
21:18 <@quantumsummers|c> yes +1
21:18 <@tsunam> robbat2: limit based on your request will be 1500
21:18 <@tsunam> robbat2: if it should go over that we will need to approve for the greater amount
21:18 <@robbat2> relevant disclosure with Serenity Networks: I rent a 5U space there for my own personal server (that happens to run Willikins), but i've been helping him out with some BGP issues, and I raised him as a potential sponsor for the dev boxes
21:18 <@NeddySeagoon> robbat2, we will need at least 2 quotes to show value for money but its good if you can get it all from the same plae
21:18 <@robbat2> yeah, I want to make an actual quote up
21:19 <@robbat2> so far it's going to have to be 2 stores, but that's just because I can get it really cheap locally that way
21:19 <@tsunam> that's fine
21:20 <@robbat2> my spare parts bins are the first source of things
21:20 <@robbat2> rather than buying
21:20 <@NeddySeagoon> robbat2, its just to show we take getting value for money seriously for audits. We will need to keep the quotes
21:20 <@robbat2> yup
21:20 <@quantumsummers|c> oops its 3 actually. 1. I have located a solid high quality vendor tshirts (american apparel) that is more than willing to go 50/50 with us. I was thinking of a limited edition run. they will dropship as well. 2. I will need somewhere around $1000 to submit the 1023 form to the IRS when its ready. 3. I am interested in soliciting for an Assistant Secretary at this time.
21:21 <@robbat2> tsunam, just one quick bit, can you send me the source material you used to compile the data for the FY reports please?
21:21 <@tsunam> 2 ) has my approval
21:21 <@tsunam> 1) I don't really want to deal with
21:21 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, you can get arrested in the UK for soliciting
21:21 <@tsunam> robbat2: sure
21:21 <@fmccor> 3) is fine with me.
21:21 <@quantumsummers|c> so #1, the dude is local to me, I have seen the product, its nice. I think there is some chance we could get higher quality && more donation from this vendor
21:22 <@tsunam> 30 to what extent would be their responsibility
21:22 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, the fee is fine, we can't avoid that
21:22 <@robbat2> +1 on the fee
21:22 <@tsunam> 3)
21:22 <@NeddySeagoon> 3 is ok too
21:22 <@quantumsummers|c> #3, I want to get them going on some of the boring stuff & using the KM system asap
21:22 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, you can pick up the ad you answered
21:23 <@quantumsummers|c> which, when anyone wishes I can setup users in in the sys
21:23 <@quantumsummers|c> NeddySeagoon: ok, I will be explicit regarding expected duties
21:23 <@quantumsummers|c> & email around for comments
21:23 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, ok.
21:24 <@quantumsummers|c> I hope to get the individual ready to take over as Sec when split roles occurs
21:24 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, is 1. printed Tee shirts?
21:24 <@quantumsummers|c> yes, other goods are available as well.
21:24 <@quantumsummers|c> but I was thinking of a tshirt fund raiser
21:25 <@quantumsummers|c> limited edition
21:25 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers|c, share it on the alias, so we can give it some thought
21:25 <@quantumsummers|c> there is no set # to order
21:25 <@quantumsummers|c> ok, will do
21:25 <@quantumsummers|c> I have numbers from them as well
21:25 <@NeddySeagoon> quantumsummers, 10th Birthday edition
21:25 <@quantumsummers|c> I'll attache
21:25 <@quantumsummers|c> NeddySeagoon: exactly
21:25 <@quantumsummers|c> artwork can be quite simple
21:26 <@NeddySeagoon> Any more other Business ?
21:26 <@NeddySeagoon> Open Floor
21:28 * NeddySeagoon declares the meeting closed
21:28 <@NeddySeagoon> Thank you everyone
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<li>Actions From the Last Meeting
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<li>Certified Public Accountant - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Send friendly cease and desist emails to copyright infringers - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Treasurers Report for FY ending 30 June 2008 - tsunam</li>
<li>Foundation Knowledge Management Needs - quantumsummers</li>
<li>Trustees and Foundation Article For the News Feed -All</li>
<li> Forward the Projektfarm GmbH and emtom.cz applications to dertobi123 - NeddySeagoon</li>
<li>Talk to Lawyers about fees and impact of 501c3 staus - fmccor</li>
<li>Write to www.linuxcenter.kz to inform them of approval - quantumsummers</li>
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<li>Actions From Previous Meetings on hold for one or more actions above
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<li>Working with Gentoo e.V. - fmccor (On hold for Gentoo e.V. board meeting)</li>
<li>Licencing For emtom.cz - quantumsummers (On hold for Gentoo e.V board meeting)</li>
<li>Licencing For Projektfarm GmbH - quantumsummers (On Hold for Gentoo e.V board meeting)</li>
<li>Fix name and address on IPR/trademark documents, 31 Aug 2008 meeting authorised the $200 fees - fmccor</li>
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<li>Open Bugs Assigned to Trustees
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<li>261785 Transfer gentoo.be from Sejo to the Gentoo Foundation, Inc.- Reimburse robbat2</li>
<li>253491 Gentoo Store - Add Case stickers, badges see
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<li>New Licence Applications
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<li>None</li>
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<li>Membership Applications - if you have applied and you are not listed below, please remind the trustees
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<li>Gentoo Developers
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<li>None</li>
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<li>Community Members
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<li>None</li>
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<li>Terms of Screenshot Contest</li>
<li>The Year Ahead</li>
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<li>Date of Next Meeting - Sunday 16th August 2009 at 1900 UTC</li>
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