From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SawWn-00087O-UW for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 02 Jun 2012 22:10:34 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DA74BE0509; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A47E0509 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:10:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from hornbill.gentoo.org (hornbill.gentoo.org [94.100.119.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BE96E1B401C for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:10:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hornbill.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E2EE5430 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:10:24 +0000 (UTC) From: "Andreas Hüttel" To: gentoo-commits@lists.gentoo.org Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Reply-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, "Andreas Hüttel" Message-ID: <1338675064.393cd4f7f9310a30a90d536c6b66351dff1ac46d.dilfridge@gentoo> Subject: [gentoo-commits] proj/kde:master commit in: Documentation/maintainers/ X-VCS-Repository: proj/kde X-VCS-Files: Documentation/maintainers/forum-post.txt X-VCS-Directories: Documentation/maintainers/ X-VCS-Committer: dilfridge X-VCS-Committer-Name: Andreas Hüttel X-VCS-Revision: 393cd4f7f9310a30a90d536c6b66351dff1ac46d X-VCS-Branch: master Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 22:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-commits@lists.gentoo.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: c0748e82-e616-4d0c-a8e4-e51d1a859101 X-Archives-Hash: 53138c50c41d25532ab7b3b6d546cc8a commit: 393cd4f7f9310a30a90d536c6b66351dff1ac46d Author: Andreas K. Huettel (dilfridge) akhuettel de> AuthorDate: Sat Jun 2 22:11:04 2012 +0000 Commit: Andreas H=C3=BCttel gentoo org> CommitDate: Sat Jun 2 22:11:04 2012 +0000 URL: http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/kde.git;a=3Dc= ommit;h=3D393cd4f7 [doc] Line breaks --- Documentation/maintainers/forum-post.txt | 119 ++++++++++++++++++++++--= ----- 1 files changed, 90 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-) diff --git a/Documentation/maintainers/forum-post.txt b/Documentation/mai= ntainers/forum-post.txt index 9fd3889..66f5297 100644 --- a/Documentation/maintainers/forum-post.txt +++ b/Documentation/maintainers/forum-post.txt @@ -3,15 +3,22 @@ This is the official guide for KDE 4 related threads. KDE 4 for Gentoo is delivered in several ways: [list] [*][b][url=3Dhttp://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Portage]Portage repository[/= url][/b] -The only officially supported and recommended way to get [url=3Dhttp://w= ww.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.4.4.php]KDE4 (4.4.4 recently)[/url]. -If you haven't used any [url=3Dhttp://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Portage_Ov= erlay]overlay[/url] nor compiled KDE 4 from source manually - this is pro= bably what you're looking for. -KDE 4 portage guide can be found [url=3Dhttp://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/de= sktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml]here[/url] - read it please to avoid problems in= a future, it's is advised that you checked FAQ below as well. -You've found a bug? Visit this [url=3Dhttp://tinyurl.com/3bpdlv]page[/ur= l] - it may have been reported already. +The only officially supported and recommended way to get +[url=3Dhttp://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-4.4.4.php]KDE4 (4.4.4 r= ecently)[/url]. +If you haven't used any [url=3Dhttp://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Portage_Ov= erlay]overlay[/url] +nor compiled KDE 4 from source manually - this is probably what you're l= ooking for. +KDE 4 portage guide can be found +[url=3Dhttp://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml]here[/ur= l] - read it please +to avoid problems in a future, it's is advised that you checked FAQ belo= w as well. +You've found a bug? Visit this [url=3Dhttp://tinyurl.com/3bpdlv]page[/ur= l] - it may have +been reported already. Support thread for KDE 4 in Portage can be found here:=20 [topic=3D707986]http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-707986.html[/topic] =20 -[*][b]Official Gentoo KDE team testing overlay [[url=3Dhttp://git.overla= ys.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/kde.git]kde[/url]][/b] -This is overlay used by [url=3Dhttp://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde= /]Gentoo KDE team[/url], it's official but unsupported. +[*][b]Official Gentoo KDE team testing overlay +[[url=3Dhttp://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/kde.git]kde[/url= ]][/b] +This is overlay used by [url=3Dhttp://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde= /]Gentoo KDE +team[/url], it's official but unsupported. It contains:[list] [*]KDE releases that will later appear in the Portage repository (-4.4.x= ) [*]live KDE ebuilds tracking main development tree (-9999) @@ -19,69 +26,123 @@ It contains:[list] [*]live KDE ebuilds tracking 4.4.x development branch (-4.4.9999) [*]live KDE ebuilds tracking 4.5.x development branch (-4.5.9999) [*]3rd party KDE packages that are not in Portage repository for various= reasons[/list] -If you have some suggestions or you would like to contribute, contact Ge= ntoo KDE team on [url=3Dirc://irc.freenode.net/gentoo-kde]#gentoo-kde.[/u= rl] -Please DON'T report any [url=3Dhttps://bugs.gentoo.org/]bugs[/url] regar= ding live packages in this overlay. For bugs related KDE release candidat= es you should add [kde-testing] to description, but it's [b]always[/b] be= tter to ask on forum or IRC channel first. +If you have some suggestions or you would like to contribute, contact Ge= ntoo KDE team on +[url=3Dirc://irc.freenode.net/gentoo-kde]#gentoo-kde.[/url] +Please DON'T report any [url=3Dhttps://bugs.gentoo.org/]bugs[/url] regar= ding live packages +in this overlay. For bugs related KDE release candidates you should add = [kde-testing] to +description, but it's [b]always[/b] better to ask on forum or IRC channe= l first. Support thread for official KDE4 testing overlay is here:=20 [url]http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-722264.html[/url] =20 Qt4 live ebuilds can be found in Qt-exclusive experimental overlay now. -To make use of them, choose the [url=3Dhttp://gitorious.org/gentoo-qt/qt= ing-edge]qting-edge[/url] overlay in [i]layman[/i]. +To make use of them, choose the +[url=3Dhttp://gitorious.org/gentoo-qt/qting-edge]qting-edge[/url] overla= y in [i]layman[/i]. =20 -[*][b]Official Gentoo user-maintained Qt3/KDE3 overlay [[url=3Dhttp://gi= t.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/kde-sunset.git]kde-sunset[/url]][/= b] -This overlay contains Qt3 and KDE3 packages removed from main repository= . It is maintaned by community. If you're interested in contributing, ple= ase let us know. +[*][b]Official Gentoo user-maintained Qt3/KDE3 overlay +[[url=3Dhttp://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/kde-sunset.git]k= de-sunset[/url]][/b] +This overlay contains Qt3 and KDE3 packages removed from main repository= . It is maintaned +by community. If you're interested in contributing, please let us know. Gentoo KDE team can be found on [url=3Dirc://irc.freenode.net/gentoo-kde= ]#gentoo-kde[/url]. [/list] =20 [size=3D18]KDE in Portage - FAQ[/size] =20 -[color=3Dorange]Q:[/color] What's the deal with [b]kdeprefix[/b] USE fla= g and why is it masked? +[color=3Dorange]Q:[/color] What's the deal with [b]kdeprefix[/b] USE fla= g and why is it +masked? =20 -[b]A:[/b] [b]kdeprefix[/b] USE flag allows installing KDE4 in alternate = location, thus making it possible to have multiple KDE4 releases side by = side. Note that this is not needed to have KDE3 installed as well. Becaus= e having multiple KDE4 installations has known issues like bugs [bug=3D25= 8027]258027[/bug] or [bug=3D267793]267793[/bug], it's not ready for publi= c consumption hence it's been disabled by default. +[b]A:[/b] [b]kdeprefix[/b] USE flag allows installing KDE4 in alternate = location, thus +making it possible to have multiple KDE4 releases side by side. Note tha= t this is not +needed to have KDE3 installed as well. Because having multiple KDE4 inst= allations has +known issues like bugs [bug=3D258027]258027[/bug] or [bug=3D267793]26779= 3[/bug], it's not +ready for public consumption hence it's been disabled by default. =20 =20 -[color=3Dorange]Q:[/color] I want to run amarok, but all I get is "symbo= l lookup error: /usr/kde/live/lib64/kde4/plugins/styles/oxygen.so: undefi= ned symbol". What should I do? +[color=3Dorange]Q:[/color] I want to run amarok, but all I get is "symbo= l lookup error: +/usr/kde/live/lib64/kde4/plugins/styles/oxygen.so: undefined symbol". Wh= at should I do? =20 -[b]A:[/b] It's a Qt bug that appears when using [b]kdeprefix[/b] USE fla= g. Qt plugin loader appends "qtplugins" path from currently running KDE4 = session, causing oxygen.so from wrong KDE prefix to be dlopen'ed. Unfortu= nately it as well cashes plugin locations in [color=3Dblue]~/.config/Trol= ltech.conf[/color], making it permanently broken unless the file is remov= ed. It usually happens with amarok or any other KDE4 applications install= ed in no prefix ([color=3Dblue]/usr[/color]), that are built against exis= ting KDE4 in one prefix (for example [color=3Dblue]/usr/kde/4.2[/color]),= but run from the other (for example in Gnome, KDE3 or [color=3Dblue]/usr= /kde/live[/color]). For now there's no known solution. +[b]A:[/b] It's a Qt bug that appears when using [b]kdeprefix[/b] USE fla= g. Qt plugin +loader appends "qtplugins" path from currently running KDE4 session, cau= sing oxygen.so +from wrong KDE prefix to be dlopen'ed. Unfortunately it as well cashes p= lugin locations in +[color=3Dblue]~/.config/Trolltech.conf[/color], making it permanently br= oken unless the file +is removed. It usually happens with amarok or any other KDE4 application= s installed in no +prefix ([color=3Dblue]/usr[/color]), that are built against existing KDE= 4 in one prefix (for +example [color=3Dblue]/usr/kde/4.2[/color]), but run from the other (for= example in Gnome, +KDE3 or [color=3Dblue]/usr/kde/live[/color]). For now there's no known s= olution. =20 =20 [color=3Dorange]Q:[/color] Why there are no sets for KDE4? =20 -[b]A:[/b] KDE4 so far is NOT making use of sets but sets are expected to= arrive in near future - the reason is - the naming convention for sets i= s not yet established. Although KDE4 Gentoo team prepared some sets for y= ou [url=3Dhttp://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/kde.git;a=3Dtre= e;f=3Dsets;h=3D829bc933b1e43e13133dcd6f9c2c2c5566569315;hb=3Dmaster]here[= /url] (click 'raw' to download file and place in [color=3Dblue]/etc/porta= ge/sets/[/color]). An archive with all sets can be downloaded from [url=3D= http://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/kde.git;a=3Dsnapshot;h=3D= 829bc933b1e43e13133dcd6f9c2c2c5566569315;sf=3Dtgz]here[/url]. Remember th= at you are using them at your own risk. +[b]A:[/b] KDE4 so far is NOT making use of sets but sets are expected to= arrive in near +future - the reason is - the naming convention for sets is not yet estab= lished. Although +KDE4 Gentoo team prepared some sets for you +[url=3Dhttp://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/kde.git;a=3Dtree;= f=3Dsets;h=3D +829bc933b1e43e13133dcd6f9c2c2c5566569315;hb=3Dmaster]here[/url] (click '= raw' to download +file and place in [color=3Dblue]/etc/portage/sets/[/color]). An archive = with all sets can be +downloaded from +[url=3Dhttp://git.overlays.gentoo.org/gitweb/?p=3Dproj/kde.git;a=3Dsnaps= hot;h=3D +829bc933b1e43e13133dcd6f9c2c2c5566569315;sf=3Dtgz]here[/url]. Remember t= hat you are using +them at your own risk. =20 =20 -[color=3Dorange]Q:[/color] When I start KDE 3, Plasma is being executed = and my KDE 3 applications are either crashing or just not working. Konque= ror refuses to start, complaining about default stylesheet version mismat= ch. What's going on? +[color=3Dorange]Q:[/color] When I start KDE 3, Plasma is being executed = and my KDE 3 +applications are either crashing or just not working. Konqueror refuses = to start, +complaining about default stylesheet version mismatch. What's going on? =20 -[b]A:[/b] This is the conflict related to mixed KDE3/KDE4 sessions. To f= ix this issue you need to [url=3Dhttp://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kd= e/kde-split-ebuilds.xml]upgrade[/url] your existing KDE 3.5.x installatio= ns to 3.5.10 or newer. Note that the 3.5.10 series has not been given sta= ble keywords yet and that the monolithic packages have been discontinued. +[b]A:[/b] This is the conflict related to mixed KDE3/KDE4 sessions. To f= ix this issue you +need to [url=3Dhttp://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde-split-ebuil= ds.xml]upgrade[/url] +your existing KDE 3.5.x installations to 3.5.10 or newer. Note that the = 3.5.10 series has +not been given stable keywords yet and that the monolithic packages have= been +discontinued. =20 =20 -[color=3Dorange]Q:[/color] I installed KDE4, I can start my desktop usin= g startx but KDM is not working. Please help. +[color=3Dorange]Q:[/color] I installed KDE4, I can start my desktop usin= g startx but KDM is +not working. Please help. =20 -[b]A:[/b] First, ensure that [color=3Dblue]kdm[/color] executable is in = your [i]PATH[/i]. To check that, run: +[b]A:[/b] First, ensure that [color=3Dblue]kdm[/color] executable is in = your [i]PATH[/i]. To +check that, run: [code]which kdm[/code] If it's not found, then probably your environment is not up to date. To = update it, run: [code]env-update && source /etc/profile[/code] -When [color=3Dblue]kdm[/color] is found, set [i]DISPLAYMANAGER=3D"kdm"[/= i] variable in [color=3Dblue]/etc/conf.d/xdm[/color]. From now on, KDM sh= ould be working. +When [color=3Dblue]kdm[/color] is found, set [i]DISPLAYMANAGER=3D"kdm"[/= i] variable in +[color=3Dblue]/etc/conf.d/xdm[/color]. From now on, KDM should be workin= g. =20 =20 -[color=3Dorange]Q:[/color] I just found this neat KDE4 application, can = you make an ebuild for it? +[color=3Dorange]Q:[/color] I just found this neat KDE4 application, can = you make an ebuild +for it? =20 -[b]A:[/b] In short, no. To be more precise, it is possible but it would = be better if you [url=3Dhttp://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing]create= d ebuild[/url] for it and send it Gentoo KDE team for review - it's more = likely it will be added to overlay. The best procedure would be to create= [url=3Dhttps://bugs.gentoo.org]bug[/url] with ebuild proposal (if it's n= ot there already) and inform the developers on [url=3Dirc://irc.freenode.= net/gentoo-kde]#gentoo-kde[/url] about it: -[quote]Hi, i found this nice app blablu v 14.2 i opened bug 234556 for i= t. Please could you consider adding it to kde-testing?[/quote] +[b]A:[/b] In short, no. To be more precise, it is possible but it would = be better if you +[url=3Dhttp://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing]created ebuild[/url] f= or it and send it +Gentoo KDE team for review - it's more likely it will be added to overla= y. The best +procedure would be to create [url=3Dhttps://bugs.gentoo.org]bug[/url] wi= th ebuild proposal +(if it's not there already) and inform the developers on +[url=3Dirc://irc.freenode.net/gentoo-kde]#gentoo-kde[/url] about it: +[quote]Hi, i found this nice app blablu v 14.2 i opened bug 234556 for i= t. Please could +you consider adding it to kde-testing?[/quote] =20 -If you have any suggestions for improvements regarding this guide, feel = free to post them [topic=3D708322]here[/topic]. Please refrain from gener= al discussion and do not post ebuild/installation questions there. +If you have any suggestions for improvements regarding this guide, feel = free to post them +[topic=3D708322]here[/topic]. Please refrain from general discussion and= do not post +ebuild/installation questions there. =20 [i]Stuck by NeddySeagoon[/i] =20 -[i]Locked and split off the other posts as a feedback [topic=3D708322]to= pic[/topic]. -- desultory[/i] +[i]Locked and split off the other posts as a feedback [topic=3D708322]to= pic[/topic]. -- +desultory[/i] [i]Made some minor grammatical corrections at the request of reavertm. -= - desultory[/i] [i]Continued updates. -- desultory[/i] [i]Updated link -- Jorge (jmbsvicetto)[/i] [i]Update kde-guide link -- Jorge (jmbsvicetto)[/i] [i]Removed arrival progress estimation link. -- desultory[/i] -[i]Applied changes asked [url=3Dhttps://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-52= 37336.html#5237336]here[/url] -- Jorge (jmbsvicetto)[/i] +[i]Applied changes asked +[url=3Dhttps://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-5237336.html#5237336]here[/= url] -- Jorge +(jmbsvicetto)[/i] [i]Applied more [post=3D5245444]updates[/post]. -- desultory[/i] [i]Applied even more [post=3D5255329]updates[/post] -- Jorge (jmbsvicett= o).[/i] -[i]Applied [post=3D5262576]updates[/post], [post=3D5276245]updates[/post= ] and more updates. Updated links. [post=3D5368691]A[/post][post=3D540145= 1]p[/post][post=3D5423969]p[/post][post=3D5552930]l[/post][post=3D5669087= ]i[/post][post=3D5734682]e[/post][post=3D5786336]d[/post] [post=3D5811962= ]updates[/post]. -- desultory[/i] +[i]Applied [post=3D5262576]updates[/post], [post=3D5276245]updates[/post= ] and more updates. +Updated links. +[post=3D5368691]A[/post][post=3D5401451]p[/post][post=3D5423969]p[/post]= [post=3D5552930]l[/post][ +post=3D5669087]i[/post][post=3D5734682]e[/post][post=3D5786336]d[/post] +[post=3D5811962]updates[/post]. -- desultory[/i] [i]Applied [post=3D5847443]update[/post]. --kallamej[/i] [i]Applied [post=3D5956057]updates[/post]. -- desultory[/i] -[i]Updates, removed info about genkdesvn (offline) and replaced kde-craz= y with kde-sunset. -- reavertm[/i] +[i]Updates, removed info about genkdesvn (offline) and replaced kde-craz= y with kde-sunset. +-- reavertm[/i]