From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A87B1381F3 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:15:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E9188E0B44; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78745E0B44 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (pool-71-245-176-92.pitbpa.fios.verizon.net [71.245.176.92]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: zerochaos) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5DC8233DED4 for ; Thu, 11 Apr 2013 19:15:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <51670C69.1030801@gentoo.org> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 15:18:01 -0400 From: "Rick \"Zero_Chaos\" Farina" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130406 Thunderbird/17.0.5 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 To: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-catalyst] Binary package dependencies and update_seed References: <513A2F19.5040203@gentoo.org> <6472ad55830b40f838356a1b083b3815a4112358.1362768301.git.wking@tremily.us> <20130309121023.GE26574@odin.tremily.us> <20130411170941.GA14224@odin.tremily.us> <516706A3.6000500@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6a1pre Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: bb21bd1d-f0fd-4e79-b2c2-b0d0c37e4f4b X-Archives-Hash: 574afccde79ddd38449717e508fad831 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/2013 03:03 PM, Matt Turner wrote: > On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina > wrote: >>> Not sure this is the way to go. I'll have to think through the >>> implications. Consider your stage1 build dies with some stupid tree >>> breakage that you can fix in your portage snapshot and restart the >>> stage build. This is going to cause your stage to rebuild everything. >>> >>> Wouldn't disabling the use of binary packages during the seed stage >>> update fix this? >>> >>> >> I'm not sure I'd call rebuilding it every time a "fix" when you just >> rejected deleting the bad packages and rebuilding ONCE. > > I'm not sure what you mean. > > Updating the seed stage should only ever happen once. If that fails > and you don't have binary packages to fall back to on restarting, I > think that's an okay price to pay. Especially since it happens early > enough in the process and avoids potential problems that are only > noticed at the beginning of stage2. > > Oh, and if updating the seed stage fails... it was only rebuilding gcc > dependencies anyway. That's not so bad at all. (I don't care about > custom update commands and isn't something that we can fix) > >> As I said, the only proper fix is to update the toolchain to EAPI5. We >> could live in the dark ages forever, but I really don't think it helps >> anyone. > > That seems like a potentially good long term goal, but isn't something > that we can force through. > > We already don't BUILD any new packages during update_seed. Originally we did, I encountered issues and fixed it in e7ea409acb52b43e9ea141c57201f9f87673f7ba to prevent building of packages during update_seed. Thanks, Zero -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJRZwxpAAoJEKXdFCfdEflK3qsQAKuklF3DkQ2vJPoYMy2KWo0H 4+YRfH/zgkhnemqgzgbr3eIuY/A1nccIZ89buwua4Gni2gnXdya6gPDkgMTkGvzY jlHRdSg5+MFgju5OA/peYCoAAz3TU/CP1U8OVJhPZ35R1v3nRVcBlI60jwXCIvqP LQEur9b2Mdx+p7er3QKypjJNtPNRYxZBoEicKXsIfIcvQRWnsrpnS9xxktGlrukE +eYTWnAB8gYmjQp2n6ZGT3aTuQoDgomBUTIeTmsAzz+U+MafSItnWBI+4w9s4auV 93ac65u/7Yrey7hLf9V1KP9T1xEGavWgeSy1e2w7a/QAsXdmEpCi1+ai9Bu8j+JU RL0PkdcWyfEPdgSLAxvhj8LzEovnGn6c74Vu6larOQOOOQWPal+pq6JwJR1zxoVm WBQsyjPTsBuPoWn4L8vLKwqiHNBPw5jzdpTlADvAm0ET2pQ73fV/gYCHIzwtwPYo CxHQasxgS/qE/ZD/aoOWzroQ5z6r/8BtOFNhmM5cj2H1rFi/nsKQyZDlR5nA7A1Z akjQb/aQI+RAERa6acGttmldRkP3dWnjycRJpoVfpg1XJFdwJKSyzfmuU7slFL88 I+2B0e+3Aluog45rGiLcXDHZASdZ/RDRqvIrovLw+hoy5Koo6KRGitjLNWEP6F+f E7OoClVdEKD5MCVrZL65 =Iqpi -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----