From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QatJc-0004qO-7F for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:40:12 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 182761C102; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:34:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yi0-f53.google.com (mail-yi0-f53.google.com [209.85.218.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C4261C102 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yic15 with SMTP id 15so2655074yic.40 for ; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:33:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=13dXbQ3a8VJdLcBuqSLka2cuS202TBUuj3KObW8cwME=; b=dN9M2tqJAZ43hXkUaxEF2RsLDrPcWqc6ERX3+0cUL2p1vkzjvaqb7c10w+opY/SeQJ hmpzQqFHpS/xnx4VvpnVo9egb5gcaXwbCM5rBCYCRohcHowrVz/e88DMfI7K2azAY3Uh uERLjqq5ameHIverKGcXVpK2/SeHLYALAmDso= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=WUwxH0FFQnDtBgpYe/QJq1KWtshdEVqUeqIUpfD2dhaU1Nmiqg8xkB8R3vu2VsDKP3 ccYWjuxmT+VoAi1ivKtabyd9EUQ4Q0PYQ+nPUwsc5sQeOAL49McMcj91FnHS459PjJIQ 5mSaLo1F51FiP9qJ0nN37C3KzaRoJfFaffuSo= Received: by 10.101.83.8 with SMTP id k8mr1176836anl.1.1309109630677; Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:33:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-76-173.tx.res.rr.com [76.187.76.173]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id w19sm4693564anf.38.2011.06.26.10.33.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:33:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 12:33:48 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-catalyst] Migrating man page to asciidoc? Message-ID: <20110626173348.GA8371@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org References: <4E061FD0.4050009@gentoo.org> <4E069B1F.8040409@gentoo.org> <20110626024929.GA6506@linux1> <4E06A41E.6000705@gentoo.org> <20110626033613.GA6577@linux1> <4E06AC3D.4000901@gentoo.org> <20110626043329.GA6710@linux1> <4E06BC27.3020808@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-catalyst@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 4dbe3889982a828ef72b0bb254e1dd3c --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:44:55AM -0400, Matt Turner wrote: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 12:57 AM, Sebastian Pipping wr= ote: > >> * Now we need to have a build time dependency, at least for the live > >> ebuild, which pulls in about 34mb of downloads just to build the man > >> page. > >> > >> Since we are just talking about a man page, imho this is a lot of bloat > >> for very little gain. > > > > I disagree on bloat and on little gain. > > > > If you insist on changing status quo I would like to call in a vote. >=20 > Well, in fairness, the asciidoc dependency was just added a day or so ago. Yes, it was added a couple of days ago, without giving a reasonable amount of time for discussion. I'll post the links to the rfc [1], the approval message [2] and the message where the change was checked in [3] below. Notice that this all happened within a period less than 24 hours. For a significant change like this, I think we should give 24-48 hours and make the patch visible somewhere so that others can look at the change and comment on it before it gets checked in. Remember that we have people here in multiple time zones, and we don't necessarily check these lists every day. Based on this as well as my previous objections I would like to see this change reverted. William [1] http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-catalyst/msg_78cd6eae401bfa7a499418bc= 6cbc225e.xml [2] http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-catalyst/msg_65f2fce710454e481973d0e2= c6cc5265.xml [3] http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-catalyst/msg_f2eb026c4c4af90650952ca8= 1a5fd6b6.xml --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk4HbXwACgkQblQW9DDEZTh1JwCfbhKudlG56In63KBJndvuvy4O r2QAnjA9XkQGZlFOfVns9BqpXcV4GXgT =f5cY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qDbXVdCdHGoSgWSk--