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* [gentoo-amd64] [gentoo-user] chromium failed to start up
@ 2009-12-26  4:31 Xi Shen
  2009-12-26  4:55 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Xi Shen @ 2009-12-26  4:31 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-china, gentoo-user, gentoo-amd64

hi,

my system is gentoo amd64, kde 4.3, and have recently updated. last
time i emerged chromium and it works fine. but after updated the
world, my chromium cannot start up. it reports segment fault.

any idea why this happen?


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* [gentoo-amd64]  Re: [gentoo-user] chromium failed to start up
  2009-12-26  4:31 [gentoo-amd64] [gentoo-user] chromium failed to start up Xi Shen
@ 2009-12-26  4:55 ` Duncan
  2009-12-26 10:54   ` Xi Shen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Duncan @ 2009-12-26  4:55 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-amd64; +Cc: gentoo-user

Xi Shen posted on Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:31:24 +0800 as excerpted:

> my system is gentoo amd64, kde 4.3, and have recently updated. last time
> i emerged chromium and it works fine. but after updated the world, my
> chromium cannot start up. it reports segment fault.

Did you do a revdep-rebuild after the last update?  Chances are, one of 
chromium's dependencies was updated, changing its abi, and chromium (and 
perhaps other packages) that depend on it need rebuilt to match the new 
abi.

It's revdep-rebuild that takes care of this, but if you don't run it 
routinely, you'll likely have a BUNCH of stuff to rebuild.  FWIW, 
lafilefixer (with the --justfixit option) can reduce that bunch of stuff 
by fixing *.la files that point to other *.la files, to point to the 
libraries directly instead.

Also, you may wish to read up on LDFLAGS="-Wl,--as-needed" and consider 
using it too, as it helps kill indirect dependencies. (Say application X 
uses library Y, which depends on library Z, but application X doesn't use 
any of library Z's functionality directly, so it shouldn't need to 
directly depend on it, and shouldn't need to be rebuilt when only library 
Z changes.  Only library Y would need rebuilt.  The as-needed LDFLAGS 
help this happen, thus reducing substantially the number of rebuilds 
needed, but at a cost of occasionally causing a legit depend to be 
missed.  But flameeyes has been working on this as one of his projects, 
so it doesn't happen very often with at least mainline packages any more, 
tho it might in obscure corner cases, the reason it's not yet the 
default.  So... consider it carefully as there's a major upside and 
generally only obscure case downside, but do be aware of the issues if 
you decide to use it.)

Of course, the LDFLAGS as-needed won't help much until you've recompiled 
a good part of your system at least once with it in place.  But the 
lafilefixer thing is just about perfect -- very little downside, it 
doesn't take long to run compared to even a couple package rebuilds, and 
it can be put to use immediately after you merge it! =:^)

Together, these reduce the number of revdep-rebuilds SUBSTANTIALLY, and I 
run it after every update session.  (Actually, my revdep-rebuild invoking 
script automatically runs lafilefixer --justfixit before it runs revdep-
rebuild, just to be sure, so I only invoke that script after the update 
and it takes care of both.)

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman




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* Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: [gentoo-user] chromium failed to start up
  2009-12-26  4:55 ` [gentoo-amd64] " Duncan
@ 2009-12-26 10:54   ` Xi Shen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Xi Shen @ 2009-12-26 10:54 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-amd64

On Sat, Dec 26, 2009 at 12:55 PM, Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
> Xi Shen posted on Sat, 26 Dec 2009 12:31:24 +0800 as excerpted:
>
>> my system is gentoo amd64, kde 4.3, and have recently updated. last time
>> i emerged chromium and it works fine. but after updated the world, my
>> chromium cannot start up. it reports segment fault.
>
> Did you do a revdep-rebuild after the last update?  Chances are, one of
> chromium's dependencies was updated, changing its abi, and chromium (and
> perhaps other packages) that depend on it need rebuilt to match the new
> abi.
>
> It's revdep-rebuild that takes care of this, but if you don't run it
> routinely, you'll likely have a BUNCH of stuff to rebuild.  FWIW,
> lafilefixer (with the --justfixit option) can reduce that bunch of stuff
> by fixing *.la files that point to other *.la files, to point to the
> libraries directly instead.
>
> Also, you may wish to read up on LDFLAGS="-Wl,--as-needed" and consider
> using it too, as it helps kill indirect dependencies. (Say application X
> uses library Y, which depends on library Z, but application X doesn't use
> any of library Z's functionality directly, so it shouldn't need to
> directly depend on it, and shouldn't need to be rebuilt when only library
> Z changes.  Only library Y would need rebuilt.  The as-needed LDFLAGS
> help this happen, thus reducing substantially the number of rebuilds
> needed, but at a cost of occasionally causing a legit depend to be
> missed.  But flameeyes has been working on this as one of his projects,
> so it doesn't happen very often with at least mainline packages any more,
> tho it might in obscure corner cases, the reason it's not yet the
> default.  So... consider it carefully as there's a major upside and
> generally only obscure case downside, but do be aware of the issues if
> you decide to use it.)
>
> Of course, the LDFLAGS as-needed won't help much until you've recompiled
> a good part of your system at least once with it in place.  But the
> lafilefixer thing is just about perfect -- very little downside, it
> doesn't take long to run compared to even a couple package rebuilds, and
> it can be put to use immediately after you merge it! =:^)
>
> Together, these reduce the number of revdep-rebuilds SUBSTANTIALLY, and I
> run it after every update session.  (Actually, my revdep-rebuild invoking
> script automatically runs lafilefixer --justfixit before it runs revdep-
> rebuild, just to be sure, so I only invoke that script after the update
> and it takes care of both.)
>
> --
> Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
> and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman
>
>
>


yes, i have run the revdep-rebuild immediately after update the world.
i think you are correct. since chromium is not a main stream package,
indirect library dependence may cause this kind of problem.

thanks a lot.


-- 
Best Regards,
David Shen

http://twitter.com/davidshen84/
http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/



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