From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-amd64+bounces-9942-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1KfjSG-0001lg-MK for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:55:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2C92E07C2; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5060E07C2 for <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KfjSD-0008Uv-2B for gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:55:29 +0000 Received: from ip68-231-12-43.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.12.43]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:55:29 +0000 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-12-43.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:55:29 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: hardware clock often doesn't sync to system on shutdown Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2008 22:55:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <pan.2008.09.16.22.55.21@cox.net> References: <48CA0929.60003@asyr.hopto.org> <pan.2008.09.14.08.44.00@cox.net> <48CD973B.6080308@asyr.hopto.org> <pan.2008.09.15.08.49.27@cox.net> <48CE7530.2090909@asyr.hopto.org> <48CE77C9.7090605@getdesigned.at> <48CE7EAE.9080404@asyr.hopto.org> <pan.2008.09.15.22.31.47@cox.net> <48CFB464.8030008@asyr.hopto.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-amd64+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-amd64.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-12-43.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies) Sender: news <news@ger.gmane.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 44609ac6-5b5e-413f-8930-129b57d84595 X-Archives-Hash: 1d91c8d723985521777f7158ea28bcf7 Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org> posted 48CFB464.8030008@asyr.hopto.org= , excerpted below, on Tue, 16 Sep 2008 16:28:04 +0300: > Do you think it might cause any problems, to /dev/null maybe? I'm not sure how it's handled in this case, but the ones that cause=20 problems redirecting to /dev/null are I believe the ones that rewrite by=20 writing a temp version, then mv-ing it over the old one. In fact, some=20 of those won't work with symlinks for much the same reason. Of course, if it's trying to do that as a normal user, it won't work, but= =20 if it's doing that as root (as likely here) it can cause problems. I've=20 had it happen a couple times to me... So I'd try starting and stopping clock a time or two and then check /dev/ null to see if it's still fine. But make sure you either have a copy of=20 the device node or know how to create one, before you do. If you're=20 using udev, you should have a copy of both the null and console device=20 nodes either in the /dev on / before udev mounts over it (so you can=20 access it by doing a mount --bind... I have an fstab entry for just that,= =20 to make doing backups of the / filesystem easier), or in your initramfs/ initrd, or both. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman