From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1K2iRS-00058y-C8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:57:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5078BE0411; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 07:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2220EE0411 for ; Sun, 1 Jun 2008 07:57:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1K2iRL-0006tj-KB for gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:57:19 +0000 Received: from ip68-231-12-133.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.12.133]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:57:19 +0000 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-12-133.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 01 Jun 2008 07:57:19 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.0.4 upgrade, sort of. Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 07:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <483D3324.3030709@ercbroadband.org> <200805312034.51915.levertond@googlemail.com> <200806010117.27540.levertond@googlemail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-12-133.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: fd02ec2d-39bb-4626-8d03-53d1442874f5 X-Archives-Hash: f65b3e127cb96dc1ae8d0dd8c192ec37 David Leverton posted 200806010117.27540.levertond@googlemail.com, excerpted below, on Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:17:26 +0100: > Assuming you mean the log that I think you mean, that person was called > stupid due to >=20 > (zhllg) mlangc, actually i use this script to update the system: "sudo > emerge -tauvDN world || until sudo emerge --resume --skipfirst; do sudo > emerge --resume --skipfirst; done >=20 > I hope you understand what's wrong with that. Well, yes, if that's /all/ he does, but that isn't necessarily the case,=20 and if it is, that's a serious user educational opportunity missed when=20 one just says he's stupid and kicks him, refusing to explain why or how=20 he's stupid or what the better approach might be and why. The problem,=20 regardless of whether it was a user who hadn't thought things thru or a=20 problem with the software, didn't get solved. It still exists, in fact=20 worse now, because there's now a frustrated user even /more/ convinced=20 he's dumb and can't hope to understand how to do it right. That's=20 another user now well on the way to being a dumb malware host and=20 propagator, because everybody treats them as too stupid to understand how= =20 to act responsibly, and eventually, they give in and start to act like it= =20 and ultimately, believe it themselves. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman --=20 gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org mailing list