From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JZy5r-0004Pl-DU for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:48:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9D8F6E06CE; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDFBE06CE for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JZy5k-00088g-Ld for gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:48:12 +0000 Received: from ip68-231-12-179.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.12.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:48:12 +0000 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-12-179.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:48:12 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Obligatory KDE4 question. Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 00:48:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <47D99F71.6040107@ouweouwe.nl> <434429.3348.qm@web65410.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-12-179.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: c4cf28e5-badc-4b55-9ab1-8ce05baca8a2 X-Archives-Hash: e17db84db8eb74110bdc08c01a50c00e BRM posted 434429.3348.qm@web65410.mail.ac4.yahoo.com, excerpted below, on Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:46:40 -0700: > I'm interested to hear, however, how easy it is for those of us that > login on the command line instead of the GUI. Should be as simple as > re-pointing the xinitrc file for the individual user, no? I did/do the command-line login thing. I used the same user for both=20 KDE3 and KDE4. In theory, the script is supposed to take the ~/.kde=20 symlink and point it at the right profile (~/.kde3.5 or .kde.svn or the=20 4.x version, whatever it is). In fact, I had some issues with that due=20 to my customized setup (I have and use ~/kde*, without the . hiding the=20 dirs, normally, tho .kde* exists and points to the same places, and some=20 of my temp and cache dir stuff is pointed at customized locations), but=20 it worked well enough once I understood what they were doing and created=20 my own starter scripts to do the same thing to my customized dirs. So as long as each computer user account uses only one of the KDEs, and=20 as long as you've not customized the user's profile or temp dirs, there=20 should be no issues in that regard. If you have customized but use=20 separate users, I'm assuming you're advanced enough to resolve the=20 customization issues with a script as I did and there shouldn't be=20 anything major. If you use the same user, things can get a bit complex=20 with settings from one showing up but not doing what's expected in the=20 other, and this gets MORE complex if you've customized user KDE locations= =20 a bit, but it's still workable, with some patience. The worst problem I=20 had was losing my KDE3 kmail account settings when KDE4 kmail started=20 instead due to mixed-up paths. Fortunately, I had backups, and was able=20 to restore a working file without having to re-setup all my mail accounts= =20 manually. So keep to a different user for kde4 testing and don't customize his kde=20 and temp locations, and all should be well. If you use the same user,=20 expect some complexity, but it can be managed if you've been cautious and= =20 done your backups before testing, and know bash and remember enough about= =20 your customized locations to get each one pointed correctly as=20 necessary. Really, the separate user testing is the way to go at this=20 point, but stubborn folks like me prefer doing it the hard way! The deal breaker here wasn't that, it was simply that huge swaths of=20 functionality from 3.x are still missing in 4.x, as I mentioned in an=20 earlier post. If you aren't the seriously customizing type, you'll=20 probably be fine, but then I can't really see why you'd be interested in=20 being so far out front on KDE4, either. --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman --=20 gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org mailing list