From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JY9Ca-0008U6-3L for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:15:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E300CE0516; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 00:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B7A2E0516 for ; Sun, 9 Mar 2008 00:15:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JY9CV-0006YS-60 for gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:15:39 +0000 Received: from ip68-231-12-179.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.231.12.179]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:15:39 +0000 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-231-12-179.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 09 Mar 2008 00:15:39 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Enabling debug info in Wine? Date: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 00:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5bdc1c8b0803070809x78898edegd3e2fa8f515582e8@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0803070847y3094bde9j7aa9a6a64500a033@mail.gmail.com> <47D17469.70703@xaerolimit.net> <5bdc1c8b0803070921xbc44366we4b3d6b3d9615bfd@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0803071103w4941f26bwafee1942709f2c78@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0803071105v2c295a53we799b81f48fc0b9b@mail.gmail.com> <5bdc1c8b0803081040k3e83bd5oe583f4b299b68674@mail.gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-231-12-179.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black) Sender: news Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 31e027f3-19de-48d7-b680-6f0294df0d0c X-Archives-Hash: 9470249b90f9f272f260d8c831a14751 "Mark Knecht" posted 5bdc1c8b0803081040k3e83bd5oe583f4b299b68674@mail.gmail.com, excerpted below, on Sat, 08 Mar 2008 10:40:49 -0800: > One comment about Wine. There is both Open Source software as well as > free binary distribution software for Windows, especially in the audio > area. Small signal processing units like reverb and synthesizers, etc. > Not everythign compiled for Windows is created by the Dark Lords of the > North West. Anyway, just because we run Wine doesn't mean we have to go > against your free software mantra. That's a good portion of how I've > used Wine in the past. Other than that I try, once in awhile, to run a > game which I've already purchased. Not the best, I know, but better tha= n > continuing to purchase, or at least I think so. To each his/her own. Agreed. =20 FWIW I've mentioned in the past that I have an old non-freedomware game I= =20 still run, Master of Orion, original DOS edition, using DOSBOX. I'm not=20 proud of it but do admit that I'm pretty much its slave, as I'm basically= =20 addicted, tho I can take some comfort in the fact that it's now a decade=20 and a half (copywrite 1993 and that was the update I got) old. As for freedomware designed to run on MS Windows, yes, it does exist. =20 However, the platform itself isn't free (of course), and running apps=20 thru WINE is sort of like trying to drive from the back seat of a bus=20 using planks to control the steering and acceleration. It may be=20 possible, but if one can sit in the driver's seat (run a native Linux=20 application doing the same thing, better and faster), it's useful to do=20 so. =3D8^) I do recognize that choice isn't available for everyone, but=20 since I have it for everything I need to run (with that single game=20 exception), I take advantage of it. If you note, I described what I=20 choose to do; I didn't claim what you did was wrong for you, but am=20 simply glad that I can get away without it, even if it involves a bit of=20 pain at times (running gnash or swfdec for flash, for instance, and doing= =20 without where it fails to work). It /does/ significantly decomplicate=20 the system side of things, since I can and do run nomultilib now. =3D8^) --=20 Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman --=20 gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org mailing list