From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1EXtsP-0003rM-U2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 05:12:34 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id jA45B3S6003078; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 05:11:03 GMT Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id jA45B3qx027961 for ; Fri, 4 Nov 2005 05:11:03 GMT Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1EXtpp-0002Z9-Lp for gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 06:09:53 +0100 Received: from ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.97.182]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 06:09:53 +0100 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 Nov 2005 06:09:53 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: OFF-TOPIC but ... you will lough !!! Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:09:10 -0700 Organization: Sometimes Message-ID: References: <4369825A.2040804@softhome.net> <436A5749.9040306@gonoph.net> <436A8411.8070801@tiscali.nl> <436A6226.7060206@gonoph.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: c4f632df-46be-4e5b-86ad-bcb7dc25ff77 X-Archives-Hash: 9a43f32a31c5114548523b958424dc4a Billy Holmes posted <436A6226.7060206@gonoph.net>, excerpted below, on Thu, 03 Nov 2005 14:16:54 -0500: > Herman Roozenbeek wrote: >> The same goes for me... But I really can't believe that nobody at >> Microsoft knows why this is so. Unless Linux-users know more about >> Microsoft's history than Microsoft itself does. ;-) > > I have several theories: > > (1) they want to forget about DOS, and want us to do the same > (2) command line? What's that? "nothing to see here, move along." > (3) MS programmers may have finally attained that status where they are > so removed from the inner workings of the OS through higher level > languages that true OS wizardy is only held by a select few. I'd say it's #3. Remember, MS is (unfortunately still, tho I wouldn't object if it were hardware only, or the software were all make GPL compatible open source) a living corporation, with a non-zero employee turnover rate, and like any large corporation, is highly departmented, such that the right hand often doesn't know what the left hand is doing (and even less, what they did a decade ago). It's likely that few actually doing the coding now were around for the days of MSDOS, and while some remember 9x, they coded GUI, not command line DOS, for it. While 9x was still DOS based and had a semi-decent DOS command line, even at that point, it would have been the old veterans doing the coding for it, while the vast majority including all the new guys did GUI only. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list