From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ESG7g-00051j-HQ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:45:00 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with SMTP id j9JFfX7N004588; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:41:33 GMT Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.5/8.13.5) with ESMTP id j9JFfUfR031507 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:41:30 GMT Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1ESG2B-0005pr-TU for gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:39:19 +0200 Received: from ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net ([68.230.97.182]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:39:19 +0200 Received: from 1i5t5.duncan by ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:39:19 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org From: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> Subject: [gentoo-amd64] Re: Re: Upgrading from amd64 to ~amd64. Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 08:35:39 -0700 Organization: Sometimes Message-ID: References: <030001c5d38e$c93d1f10$0203a8c0@oulaptop> <33411.202.248.61.99.1129607716.squirrel@gw.thefreemanclan.net> <20051018202551.GA12823@crud.crud.mn.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ip68-230-97-182.ph.ph.cox.net User-Agent: Pan/0.14.2.91 (As She Crawled Across the Table) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: a00354a6-3c33-488e-a466-21f4846f6b84 X-Archives-Hash: 941a77d1125c0a70f9881d03240c2aa2 Barry.SCHWARTZ posted <20051018202551.GA12823@crud.crud.mn.org>, excerpted below, on Tue, 18 Oct 2005 15:25:51 -0500: > These days I run ~amd64 by default, but with the glibc from amd64. I > found cups and the whole apache-php-subversion thing difficult to > manage as ~amd64 so I also use the amd64 version there. Interesting... Here, I'm running a still-masked gcc-4.0.1, with dependencies on a binutils that was at least still masked when I unmasked and merged it. Additionally, as part of the gcc4 thing, I'm running a still-masked glibc snapshot that has gcc4 fixes. So... one could say I'm at the opposite extreme as you... you stay stable amd64 for glibc and etc, I use package.unmask to get stuff that's not even in ~amd64 yet! =8^) Of course, part of that probably has to do with something else you mention, that whole apache-php-subversion thing. That implies the purpose of your installation is server related, and servers traditionally run more conservative settings, DEFINITELY so if they are publicly accessible or mission critical. I'm lucky enough to have a dual Opteron as my private desktop workstation, where computing is my hobby, not my job, so if it breaks and takes a couple days for me to figure out what's wrong and get things up and running again, no big deal, that's simply part of the challenge that makes my hobby enjoyable enough to keep me coming back for more! =8^) -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the program, he is your master." Richard Stallman in http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html -- gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list