[gentoo-amd64] X keyboard problem on my amd64 box

[gentoo-amd64] X keyboard problem on my amd64 box

[Lukas Oliva]

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   Hi,
I use AMD64 gentoo o my box and I experience problems with keyboard  
switching. Namely it is impossible o switch with Shift-Shift that is  
specified in xorg.conf and even worse, if I specify two keyboards (czech  
and english) in xorg.conf it is impossible to switch to the console. This  
results in the gnome start error saying that there could be several souces  
of problems (xkb, X, libxklavier). I am not sure where the problem could  
be. I tried to recompile everything connected to xkb and Xorgand also  
different versions, but it persists. Fortunately setxkb works, but I do  
not consider it to be satisfying. Could anyone advise? It would be helpful  
also t point to some way of debugging as I have no idea.
   I attach my xorg.conf. My gcc is x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *, profile  
2006.1.

   Thanks for advices
   Lukas

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Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Dual Head"
# Screen "Screen0"
Screen "Screen2" # LeftOf "Screen0"
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "TouchPad" "AlwaysCore"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
Option "Xinerama" "on"
EndSection

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
# ModulePath   "/usr/lib64/opengl/nvidia/extensions"
# ModulePath   "/usr/lib64/opengl/xorg-x11/extensions"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "extmod"
Load "dbe"
Load "record"
Load "xtrap"
# Load "dri"
Load "glx"
Load "freetype"
Load "synaptics"
Load "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
# Option "XkbModel" "pc101"
# Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option      "XkbModel" "pc105"
# Option      "XkbLayout" "cz_qwerty,us"
## Option      "XkbLayout" "cz,us"
Option      "XkbOptions"    "grp:switch,grp:shifts_toggle,grp_led:scroll,compose:ralt"
Option	    "AddARGBGLXVisuals"
# Option    "XkbOptions" "grp:shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
Option      "XkbVariant" "qwerty,nodeadkeys"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver  	"synaptics"
Identifier  	"TouchPad"
Option	"Device"  	"/dev/input/mouse0"
Option	"Protocol"	"auto-dev"
Option	"LeftEdge"      "1700"
Option	"RightEdge"     "5300"
Option	"TopEdge"       "1700"
Option	"BottomEdge"    "4200"
Option	"FingerLow"	"25"
Option	"FingerHigh"	"30"
Option	"MaxTapTime"	"180"
Option	"MaxTapMove"	"220"
Option	"VertScrollDelta" "100"
Option	"MinSpeed"	"0.09"
Option	"MaxSpeed"	"0.18"
Option	"AccelFactor"	"0.0015"
Option	"SHMConfig"	"on"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
# Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier     "Touchpad"
Driver         "synaptics"
Option         "Device" "/dev/input/mouse0"
Option         "Protocol" "auto"
Option         "LeftEdge" "1530"
Option         "RightEdge" "5550"
Option         "TopEdge" "1690"
Option         "BottomEdge" "4420"
Option         "FingerLow" "25"
Option         "FingerHigh" "30"
Option         "MaxTapTime" "180"
Option         "MaxTapMove" "220"
Option         "VertScrollDelta" "100"
Option         "MinSpeed" "0.02"
Option         "MaxSpeed" "0.2"
Option         "AccelFactor" "0.002"
Option         "RTCornerButton" "0"
Option         "RBCornerButton" "0"
Option         "CircularScrolling" "1"
Option         "PalmMinWidth" "5"
Option         "PalmMinZ" "150"
Option         "SHMConfig" "on"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
# This is my laptop's monitor
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
#                 HorizSync 28.0 - 49.0
#                     VertRefresh 43.0 - 72.0
EndSection
#
Section "Monitor"
#                         # This is a Samsung Syncmaster 800 TFT"
Identifier "CRT-0"
VendorName "Samsung"
ModelName "Samsung Syncmaster 800 TFT"
Option "DPMS"
HorizSync 30.0-64.0
VertRefresh 50.0-100.0
EndSection
#
# Section "Device"
#  # This is my laptop's vga card
#   Identifier "Card0"
#  Driver "i810"
#   Screen 0
# Option "MonitorLayout" "CRT, CRT+LFP"
#  BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
#  EndSection
#
#  Section "Device"
#   # Here is the trick: repeat the same card with a different identifier
#  Identifier "Card1"
#   Driver "i810"
# Screen 1
#  Option "MonitorLayout" "CRT, CRT+LFP"
#   BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
#   EndSection
#
Section "Device"
Identifier     "Card0"
Driver         "nvidia"
#Driver         "nv"
VendorName     "nVidia Corporation"
BoardName      "GeForce FX Go5200"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier     "Card1"
Driver         "nvidia"
# Driver         "nv"
VendorName     "nVidia Corporation"
BoardName      "GeForce FX Go5200"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth  16
Modes  "800x600"
EndSubSection
EndSection
#
Section "Screen"
Identifier   "Screen2"
Device "Card1"
Monitor   "CRT-0"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth  16
Modes  "1280x1024"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth  16
Modes  "800x600"
EndSubSection
EndSection
#
# # I think the following is not really necessary!
Section "ServerFlags"
Option "Xinerama" "enable"
EndSection

Re: [gentoo-amd64] X keyboard problem on my amd64 box

[Beso]

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2007/6/27, Lukas Oliva <xoliva02@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>:
>
>    Hi,
> I use AMD64 gentoo o my box and I experience problems with keyboard
> switching. Namely it is impossible o switch with Shift-Shift that is
> specified in xorg.conf and even worse, if I specify two keyboards (czech
> and english) in xorg.conf it is impossible to switch to the console.


have you actually specified them also in the make.conf?!?! if you don't
specify them there you may have troubles.... try to look at the use flags
with whom you've compiled x (use euse for that)....


This
> results in the gnome start error saying that there could be several souces
> of problems (xkb, X, libxklavier). I am not sure where the problem could
> be. I tried to recompile everything connected to xkb and Xorgand also
> different versions, but it persists. Fortunately setxkb works, but I do
> not consider it to be satisfying. Could anyone advise? It would be helpful
> also t point to some way of debugging as I have no idea.
>    I attach my xorg.conf. My gcc is x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *, profile
> 2006.1.


have you actually done  a emerge --sync and  updated world with the new
packages version?!?! the 2006.1 is very old as  packages and baselayout,
which had some great changes....

   Thanks for advices
>    Lukas
>



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] X keyboard problem on my amd64 box

[Lukas Oliva]

On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:04:08 +0200, Beso <givemesugarr@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2007/6/27, Lukas Oliva <xoliva02@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>:
>>
>>    Hi,
>> I use AMD64 gentoo o my box and I experience problems with keyboard
>> switching. Namely it is impossible o switch with Shift-Shift that is
>> specified in xorg.conf and even worse, if I specify two keyboards (czech
>> and english) in xorg.conf it is impossible to switch to the console.
>
>
> have you actually specified them also in the make.conf?!?! if you don't
> specify them there you may have troubles.... try to look at the use flags
> with whom you've compiled x (use euse for that)....

Hi, in my make.conf I have these INPUT_DEVICES and VIDEO_CARDS
INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard mouse synaptics"
VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia nv v4l vesa"

My server is compiled with these USE FLAGs that I think worked for me

x11-base/xorg-server-1.2.0-r3  USE="dri ipv6 nptl sdl xorg xprint (-3dfx)  
-debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal" INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard mouse  
synaptics -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro  
-elo2300 -elographics -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick -magellan  
-microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa -tek4957 -ur98  
-vmmouse -void -wacom" VIDEO_CARDS="nv nvidia v4l vesa -apm -ark -chips  
-cirrus -cyrix -dummy -epson -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128 (-i740) -i810  
(-impact) (-imstt) -mach64 -mga -neomagic (-newport) (-nsc) -r128 -radeon  
-rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2)  
(-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga  
-trident -tseng -vga -via -vmware -voodoo"

My graphic card is Nvidia FX Go 5700.

>
>
> This
>> results in the gnome start error saying that there could be several  
>> souces
>> of problems (xkb, X, libxklavier). I am not sure where the problem could
>> be. I tried to recompile everything connected to xkb and Xorgand also
>> different versions, but it persists. Fortunately setxkb works, but I do
>> not consider it to be satisfying. Could anyone advise? It would be  
>> helpful
>> also t point to some way of debugging as I have no idea.
>>    I attach my xorg.conf. My gcc is x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *, profile
>> 2006.1.
>
>
> have you actually done  a emerge --sync and  updated world with the new
> packages version?!?! the 2006.1 is very old as  packages and baselayout,
> which had some great changes....

Yes, I sync at least twice a week and I do emerge -upvDN world &&  
revdep-rebuild. I considered 2006.1 to be somehow old, but I was advised  
on #gentoo-amd64 not to leave it as the next one could be still somehow  
experimental.

>
>    Thanks for advices
>>    Lukas
>>
>
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] X keyboard problem on my amd64 box

[Beso]

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2007/6/29, Lukas Oliva <xoliva02@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>:
>
> On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:04:08 +0200, Beso <givemesugarr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 2007/6/27, Lukas Oliva <xoliva02@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>:
> >>
> >>    Hi,
> >> I use AMD64 gentoo o my box and I experience problems with keyboard
> >> switching. Namely it is impossible o switch with Shift-Shift that is
> >> specified in xorg.conf and even worse, if I specify two keyboards
> (czech
> >> and english) in xorg.conf it is impossible to switch to the console.
> >
> >
> > have you actually specified them also in the make.conf?!?! if you don't
> > specify them there you may have troubles.... try to look at the use
> flags
> > with whom you've compiled x (use euse for that)....
>
> Hi, in my make.conf I have these INPUT_DEVICES and VIDEO_CARDS
> INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard mouse synaptics"
> VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia nv v4l vesa"
>
> My server is compiled with these USE FLAGs that I think worked for me
>
> x11-base/xorg-server-1.2.0-r3  USE="dri ipv6 nptl sdl xorg xprint (-3dfx)
> -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal" INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard mouse
> synaptics -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro
> -elo2300 -elographics -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick -magellan
> -microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa -tek4957 -ur98
> -vmmouse -void -wacom" VIDEO_CARDS="nv nvidia v4l vesa -apm -ark -chips
> -cirrus -cyrix -dummy -epson -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128 (-i740) -i810
> (-impact) (-imstt) -mach64 -mga -neomagic (-newport) (-nsc) -r128 -radeon
> -rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2)
> (-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga
> -trident -tseng -vga -via -vmware -voodoo"
>
> My graphic card is Nvidia FX Go 5700.


you should install also the nvidia drivers and then eselect the nvidia
opengl instead of the xorg one, cause it's much more performant.... follow
the nvidia howtos on gentoo-wiki for that if you haven't done it yet....
anyway this is only the xorg server package, not the internationalizzation
package which has the voices about the linguas.... for me (kde user) is
kde-base/kde-i18n which has various linguas compiled.... the absence of the
voice "LINGUAS ="en cz"" may say that it should have installed all the
default languages.... if you're using some other window manager than kde you
should search on which is the internazionalization package on your
windowmanager....
but first i have forgotten of the x11-apps/setxkbmap package which controls
the x keyb changer.... see if it's installed.... it may be due to it that
the system doesn't switch the keyb layout.... and another thing, on kde, you
should first enable the shortcut on the kde admin pannel....

>
> >
> > This
> >> results in the gnome start error saying that there could be several
> >> souces
> >> of problems (xkb, X, libxklavier). I am not sure where the problem
> could
> >> be. I tried to recompile everything connected to xkb and Xorgand also
> >> different versions, but it persists. Fortunately setxkb works, but I do
> >> not consider it to be satisfying. Could anyone advise? It would be
> >> helpful
> >> also t point to some way of debugging as I have no idea.
> >>    I attach my xorg.conf. My gcc is x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *,
> profile
> >> 2006.1.
> >
> >
> > have you actually done  a emerge --sync and  updated world with the new
> > packages version?!?! the 2006.1 is very old as  packages and baselayout,
> > which had some great changes....
>
> Yes, I sync at least twice a week and I do emerge -upvDN world &&
> revdep-rebuild. I considered 2006.1 to be somehow old, but I was advised
> on #gentoo-amd64 not to leave it as the next one could be still somehow
> experimental.
>
> >
> >    Thanks for advices
> >>    Lukas
> >>
> >
> >
> >
>
> --
> gentoo-amd64@gentoo.org mailing list
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] X keyboard problem on my amd64 box

[Lukas Oliva]

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>> My graphic card is Nvidia FX Go 5700.
>
>
> you should install also the nvidia drivers and then eselect the nvidia
> opengl instead of the xorg one, cause it's much more performant....  
> follow
> the nvidia howtos on gentoo-wiki for that if you haven't done it yet....

I did so and nvidia is correctly running.

> anyway this is only the xorg server package, not the  
> internationalizzation
> package which has the voices about the linguas.... for me (kde user) is
> kde-base/kde-i18n which has various linguas compiled....
well, I prefer gnome and fluxbox if performance neede. But it was all  
running ok till some update, but I had not time to solve it at that time.

> the absence of the
> voice "LINGUAS ="en cz"" may say that it should have installed all the
> default languages.... if you're using some other window manager than kde  
> you
> should search on which is the internazionalization package on your
> windowmanager....

Oh, this is interesting, I thought, it should be "en cs" that I am using.  
Sorry for being confusing, I will attach the make.conf. In my mind, this  
isn't problem of window manager as gnome was running and it has no  
localization package.

> but first i have forgotten of the x11-apps/setxkbmap package which  
> controls
> the x keyb changer.... see if it's installed....
   Yes, it is, currenlty I use these packages perhaps related to xkb
   [ I] x11-apps/setxkbmap (1.0.2):  Controls the keyboard layout of a  
running X server.
   [ I] x11-apps/xkbcomp (1.0.3):  compile XKB keyboard description
   [ I] x11-apps/xkbutils (1.0.1):  X.Org xkbutils application
   [ I] x11-libs/libxkbfile (1.0.4):  X.Org xkbfile library
   [ I] x11-libs/libxkbui (1.0.2):  X.Org xkbui library
   [ I] x11-libs/libxklavier (3.1):  High level XKB library
   [ I] x11-misc/xkbdata (1.0.1):  X.Org xkbdata data
   [ I] x11-misc/xxkb (1.10):  eXtended XKB - assign different keymaps to  
different windows
   [ I] x11-plugins/gkrellm-xkb (1.05):  XKB keyboard switcher for gkrellm2

> it may be due to it that
> the system doesn't switch the keyb layout.... and another thing, on kde,  
> you
> should first enable the shortcut on the kde admin pannel....
  This is not afaik necessary in gnome.

>
>>
> then you're using the 2007 layout.... when you update world you update  
> many
> system packages, as gcc, libtool or baselayout.... the experimental  
> issue is
> only is you use the tilde packages, which are still unstable.... you  
> should
> not use this as an universal keyword in make.conf, but the packages that  
> you
> need and that are still under the unstable branch should be put in the
> /etc/portage/package.keywords file.... if you're using only stable packs  
> you
> will not have any issue due to experimental things.... at least for what  
> i
> know of it....

Well, sorry I should not say experimental but I was told that there can be  
some problems on 2007.1, so I have not switched yet.
ls -l /etc/ | grep make.profile
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root        root       51 2007-05-06 14:42 make.profile ->  
..//usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1
Maybe it would be good idea to switch, if you have not experienced any  
problems.

   Lukas

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# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically built this stage
# Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example
CFLAGS="-O2 -pipe -march=k8"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

MAKEOPTS="-j2"

FEATURES="parallel-fetch digest"
LINGUAS="cs en"
INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard mouse synaptics"
VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia nv v4l vesa"

PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage"
PORT_LOGDIR="/var/log/portage"

PORTAGE_NICENESS=10

USE="gtk gnome -kde -qt -arts tcl tk fbsplash vim dvd alsa cdr ssl gnutls sasl bash-completion lm_sensors acpi sensord usb bluetooth X doc gif png jpeg jpeg2k pdf truetype sdl dvi djvu tiff szip nethack gnutls spell 7zip dbus hal opengl blas glut threads octave bzip2 logrotate esd opengl irda cairo guile socks5 offensive mp3 gstreamer speex ogg vorbis mpeg v4l2 unicode xprint"

SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://mirror.icis.pcz.pl/gentoo/ ftp://212.219.56.133/sites/www.ibiblio.org/gentoo/ http://www.die.unipd.it/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo-sources/ http://130.59.10.35/ftp/mirror/gentoo/ ftp://gentoo.imj.fr/pub/gentoo/"
source /usr/portage/local/layman/make.conf

Re: [gentoo-amd64] X keyboard problem on my amd64 box

[Beso]

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2007/6/29, Lukas Oliva <xoliva02@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>:
>
>
> >> My graphic card is Nvidia FX Go 5700.
> >
> >
> > you should install also the nvidia drivers and then eselect the nvidia
> > opengl instead of the xorg one, cause it's much more performant....
> > follow
> > the nvidia howtos on gentoo-wiki for that if you haven't done it yet....
>
> I did so and nvidia is correctly running.
>
> > anyway this is only the xorg server package, not the
> > internationalizzation
> > package which has the voices about the linguas.... for me (kde user) is
> > kde-base/kde-i18n which has various linguas compiled....
> well, I prefer gnome and fluxbox if performance neede. But it was all
> running ok till some update, but I had not time to solve it at that time.


you'll need to look for that update and try to fix it cause it may be that
one that is breaking you keyb layout....

> the absence of the
> > voice "LINGUAS ="en cz"" may say that it should have installed all the
> > default languages.... if you're using some other window manager than kde
> > you
> > should search on which is the internazionalization package on your
> > windowmanager....
>
> Oh, this is interesting, I thought, it should be "en cs" that I am using.
> Sorry for being confusing, I will attach the make.conf. In my mind, this
> isn't problem of window manager as gnome was running and it has no
> localization package.


hold on a sec, i don't know if is cz or cs.... you should look for you
internazionalizzation settings....

> but first i have forgotten of the x11-apps/setxkbmap package which
> > controls
> > the x keyb changer.... see if it's installed....
>    Yes, it is, currenlty I use these packages perhaps related to xkb
>    [ I] x11-apps/setxkbmap (1.0.2):  Controls the keyboard layout of a
> running X server.
>    [ I] x11-apps/xkbcomp (1.0.3):  compile XKB keyboard description
>    [ I] x11-apps/xkbutils (1.0.1):  X.Org xkbutils application
>    [ I] x11-libs/libxkbfile (1.0.4):  X.Org xkbfile library
>    [ I] x11-libs/libxkbui (1.0.2):  X.Org xkbui library
>    [ I] x11-libs/libxklavier (3.1):  High level XKB library
>    [ I] x11-misc/xkbdata (1.0.1):  X.Org xkbdata data
>    [ I] x11-misc/xxkb (1.10):  eXtended XKB - assign different keymaps to
> different windows
>    [ I] x11-plugins/gkrellm-xkb (1.05):  XKB keyboard switcher for
> gkrellm2


wow....  you have a lot of packages installed but i don't see the one that i
was telling you about.... try emerging it....

> it may be due to it that
> > the system doesn't switch the keyb layout.... and another thing, on kde,
> > you
> > should first enable the shortcut on the kde admin pannel....
>   This is not afaik necessary in gnome.


i don't know how gnome works, cause i hate it!!!! i'm a true kde crusader
against gnome/evolution/mono, which now are more and more integrated as
windows and internet exploder....

>
> >>
> > then you're using the 2007 layout.... when you update world you update
> > many
> > system packages, as gcc, libtool or baselayout.... the experimental
> > issue is
> > only is you use the tilde packages, which are still unstable.... you
> > should
> > not use this as an universal keyword in make.conf, but the packages that
> > you
> > need and that are still under the unstable branch should be put in the
> > /etc/portage/package.keywords file.... if you're using only stable packs
> > you
> > will not have any issue due to experimental things.... at least for what
> > i
> > know of it....
>
> Well, sorry I should not say experimental but I was told that there can be
> some problems on 2007.1, so I have not switched yet.
> ls -l /etc/ | grep make.profile
> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root        root       51 2007-05-06 14:42 make.profile ->
> ..//usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1
> Maybe it would be good idea to switch, if you have not experienced any
> problems.


hmmm.... you've already switched to it.... the configuration in the profile
is not much changed and the packages you're using are udated.... this is the
best thing on gentoo: it isn't bonded anymore to versioning as other
distributions.... i've started with 2007.0 and now i'm using a very tainted
gentoo, with sabayon packages, i've updated the baselayout and  with a lot
of tilde packages and with paludis instead of portage and my system is
stable and i haven't experienced any great issue....  if you look at the two
profiles you'll see that there are 2 use flags changed and you probably have
already enabled the 2 use flags that are enabled by default.... these are
the changes between the 2007.0 and 2006.1....

   Lukas
>



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] X keyboard problem on my amd64 box

[Lukas Oliva]

On Fri, 29 Jun 2007 12:29:29 +0200, Beso <givemesugarr@gmail.com> wrote:

> 2007/6/29, Lukas Oliva <xoliva02@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>:
>>
>>
>> >> My graphic card is Nvidia FX Go 5700.
>> >
>> >
>> > you should install also the nvidia drivers and then eselect the nvidia
>> > opengl instead of the xorg one, cause it's much more performant....
>> > follow
>> > the nvidia howtos on gentoo-wiki for that if you haven't done it  
>> yet....
>>
>> I did so and nvidia is correctly running.
>>
>> > anyway this is only the xorg server package, not the
>> > internationalizzation
>> > package which has the voices about the linguas.... for me (kde user)  
>> is
>> > kde-base/kde-i18n which has various linguas compiled....
>> well, I prefer gnome and fluxbox if performance neede. But it was all
>> running ok till some update, but I had not time to solve it at that  
>> time.
>
>
> you'll need to look for that update and try to fix it cause it may be  
> that
> one that is breaking you keyb layout....

You are righ, the problem is that I am not sure when did this happenedand  
as I update quite often, I am not able to find it out.

>
>> the absence of the
>> > voice "LINGUAS ="en cz"" may say that it should have installed all the
>> > default languages.... if you're using some other window manager than  
>> kde
>> > you
>> > should search on which is the internazionalization package on your
>> > windowmanager....
>>
>> Oh, this is interesting, I thought, it should be "en cs" that I am  
>> using.
>> Sorry for being confusing, I will attach the make.conf. In my mind, this
>> isn't problem of window manager as gnome was running and it has no
>> localization package.
>
>
> hold on a sec, i don't know if is cz or cs.... you should look for you
> internazionalizzation settings....
>
>> but first i have forgotten of the x11-apps/setxkbmap package which
>> > controls
>> > the x keyb changer.... see if it's installed....
>>    Yes, it is, currenlty I use these packages perhaps related to xkb
>>    [ I] x11-apps/setxkbmap (1.0.2):  Controls the keyboard layout of a
>> running X server.
>>    [ I] x11-apps/xkbcomp (1.0.3):  compile XKB keyboard description
>>    [ I] x11-apps/xkbutils (1.0.1):  X.Org xkbutils application
>>    [ I] x11-libs/libxkbfile (1.0.4):  X.Org xkbfile library
>>    [ I] x11-libs/libxkbui (1.0.2):  X.Org xkbui library
>>    [ I] x11-libs/libxklavier (3.1):  High level XKB library
>>    [ I] x11-misc/xkbdata (1.0.1):  X.Org xkbdata data
>>    [ I] x11-misc/xxkb (1.10):  eXtended XKB - assign different keymaps  
>> to
>> different windows
>>    [ I] x11-plugins/gkrellm-xkb (1.05):  XKB keyboard switcher for
>> gkrellm2
>
>
> wow....  you have a lot of packages installed but i don't see the one  
> that i
> was telling you about.... try emerging it....

Well, that one is setxkbmap, no? If so than I have it.
I *am* able to switch keyboard using this in terminal, but it is not the  
way I would like to do.
>
>> it may be due to it that
>> > the system doesn't switch the keyb layout.... and another thing, on  
>> kde,
>> > you
>> > should first enable the shortcut on the kde admin pannel....
>>   This is not afaik necessary in gnome.
>
>
> i don't know how gnome works, cause i hate it!!!! i'm a true kde crusader
> against gnome/evolution/mono, which now are more and more integrated as
> windows and internet exploder....
>

Ok, I can not tell. Just for me gnome seems to be simple and elegant  
comparing to KDE eyecandy.

>>
>> >>
>> > then you're using the 2007 layout.... when you update world you update
>> > many
>> > system packages, as gcc, libtool or baselayout.... the experimental
>> > issue is
>> > only is you use the tilde packages, which are still unstable.... you
>> > should
>> > not use this as an universal keyword in make.conf, but the packages  
>> that
>> > you
>> > need and that are still under the unstable branch should be put in the
>> > /etc/portage/package.keywords file.... if you're using only stable  
>> packs
>> > you
>> > will not have any issue due to experimental things.... at least for  
>> what
>> > i
>> > know of it....
>>
>> Well, sorry I should not say experimental but I was told that there can  
>> be
>> some problems on 2007.1, so I have not switched yet.
>> ls -l /etc/ | grep make.profile
>> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root        root       51 2007-05-06 14:42 make.profile ->
>> ..//usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2006.1
>> Maybe it would be good idea to switch, if you have not experienced any
>> problems.
>
>
> hmmm.... you've already switched to it.... the configuration in the  
> profile
> is not much changed and the packages you're using are udated.... this is  
> the
> best thing on gentoo: it isn't bonded anymore to versioning as other
> distributions.... i've started with 2007.0 and now i'm using a very  
> tainted
> gentoo, with sabayon packages, i've updated the baselayout and  with a  
> lot
> of tilde packages and with paludis instead of portage and my system is
> stable and i haven't experienced any great issue....  if you look at the  
> two
> profiles you'll see that there are 2 use flags changed and you probably  
> have
> already enabled the 2 use flags that are enabled by default.... these are
> the changes between the 2007.0 and 2006.1....
>

Yes, you are right. I switched it and do some recompilation. Nevertheless  
this does not seem to solve my problem as none of the recompiled packages  
has todo with gnome/X.

>    Lukas
>>
>
>
>


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] X keyboard problem on my amd64 box

[Beso]

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2007/6/29, Lukas Oliva <xoliva02@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>:
>
>
> You are righ, the problem is that I am not sure when did this happenedand
> as I update quite often, I am not able to find it out.


me too i'm updating  every day.... i sync once a day and update when there
are 2-3 packages to do, or when i get a major update (gcc, libtool, kernel,
atidrivers, xorg, kde) of what i use every day....

>
>
> Well, that one is setxkbmap, no? If so than I have it.
> I *am* able to switch keyboard using this in terminal, but it is not the
> way I would like to do.
> >


so, the problem is the misconfiguration of some package.... this may be due
to some etc-update and by chosing the -3 option there.... your configuration
was overwritten when you've updated the package.... try this guide to see if
it fits your needs:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Speak_Your_Language
if that doesn't work, make a script in /usr/local/bin/ and recall it by
using it as a keyboard shortcut.... i've done this with a script that
enables/disables wireless on my notebook....


> Ok, I can not tell. Just for me gnome seems to be simple and elegant
> comparing to KDE eyecandy.


the problem with gnome is mono and evolution, which are growing more and
more integrated into it.... besides, for my taste kde is 1000000000 time
more good looking, with tons of qt styles around to fit your best taste, and
with the best app around: k3b compared to nautilus is something far away of
ages, amarok destroys every other musical software around, the new opensuse
kmenu ported to gentoo by sabayon is something that is far beyond the gnome
or kde start menu, krusader is the best file manager around, konqueror is
the best low resource browser and comes with firefox plugins full
integration, the kdevelop is the best suite around, kaffeine is a media
player that destroys its concurents, except mplayer.... the other feature
that makes me very proud of kde is the copy/move option on the right mouse
button.... it is quite a thing for usability.... i don't know if gnome has
something similar.... the only gnome app that i've been using is pan which
is the best newsreader around, and the compiz, cause it has its gnome/mono
bindings.... for all the aspects kde has jumped far far away of gnome and
now leads into linux desktops....  the novell-microzoz partnership will move
more and more people from gnome-evo-mono to kde.... this is my opinion....
the only problem around kde is the resources that it takes, which are a
little more that gnome's or of the other windows managers....


> Yes, you are right. I switched it and do some recompilation. Nevertheless
> this does not seem to solve my problem as none of the recompiled packages
> has todo with gnome/X.


as i said, try to find the configuration problem.... it is that one that
makes you mad....

>    Lukas
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] X keyboard problem on my amd64 box

[Beso]

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2007/6/29, Lukas Oliva <xoliva02@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>:
>
> On Thu, 28 Jun 2007 13:04:08 +0200, Beso <givemesugarr@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 2007/6/27, Lukas Oliva <xoliva02@stud.feec.vutbr.cz>:
> >>
> >>    Hi,
> >> I use AMD64 gentoo o my box and I experience problems with keyboard
> >> switching. Namely it is impossible o switch with Shift-Shift that is
> >> specified in xorg.conf and even worse, if I specify two keyboards
> (czech
> >> and english) in xorg.conf it is impossible to switch to the console.
> >
> >
> > have you actually specified them also in the make.conf?!?! if you don't
> > specify them there you may have troubles.... try to look at the use
> flags
> > with whom you've compiled x (use euse for that)....
>
> Hi, in my make.conf I have these INPUT_DEVICES and VIDEO_CARDS
> INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard mouse synaptics"
> VIDEO_CARDS="nvidia nv v4l vesa"
>
> My server is compiled with these USE FLAGs that I think worked for me
>
> x11-base/xorg-server-1.2.0-r3  USE="dri ipv6 nptl sdl xorg xprint (-3dfx)
> -debug -dmx -kdrive -minimal" INPUT_DEVICES="evdev keyboard mouse
> synaptics -acecad -aiptek -calcomp -citron -digitaledge -dmc -dynapro
> -elo2300 -elographics -fpit -hyperpen -jamstudio -joystick -magellan
> -microtouch -mutouch -palmax -penmount -spaceorb -summa -tek4957 -ur98
> -vmmouse -void -wacom" VIDEO_CARDS="nv nvidia v4l vesa -apm -ark -chips
> -cirrus -cyrix -dummy -epson -fbdev -fglrx -glint -i128 (-i740) -i810
> (-impact) (-imstt) -mach64 -mga -neomagic (-newport) (-nsc) -r128 -radeon
> -rendition -s3 -s3virge -savage -siliconmotion -sis -sisusb (-sunbw2)
> (-suncg14) (-suncg3) (-suncg6) (-sunffb) (-sunleo) (-suntcx) -tdfx -tga
> -trident -tseng -vga -via -vmware -voodoo"
>
> My graphic card is Nvidia FX Go 5700.
>
> >
> >
> > This
> >> results in the gnome start error saying that there could be several
> >> souces
> >> of problems (xkb, X, libxklavier). I am not sure where the problem
> could
> >> be. I tried to recompile everything connected to xkb and Xorgand also
> >> different versions, but it persists. Fortunately setxkb works, but I do
> >> not consider it to be satisfying. Could anyone advise? It would be
> >> helpful
> >> also t point to some way of debugging as I have no idea.
> >>    I attach my xorg.conf. My gcc is x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 *,
> profile
> >> 2006.1.
> >
> >
> > have you actually done  a emerge --sync and  updated world with the new
> > packages version?!?! the 2006.1 is very old as  packages and baselayout,
> > which had some great changes....
>
> Yes, I sync at least twice a week and I do emerge -upvDN world &&
> revdep-rebuild. I considered 2006.1 to be somehow old, but I was advised
> on #gentoo-amd64 not to leave it as the next one could be still somehow
> experimental.


then you're using the 2007 layout.... when you update world you update many
system packages, as gcc, libtool or baselayout.... the experimental issue is
only is you use the tilde packages, which are still unstable.... you should
not use this as an universal keyword in make.conf, but the packages that you
need and that are still under the unstable branch should be put in the
/etc/portage/package.keywords file.... if you're using only stable packs you
will not have any issue due to experimental things.... at least for what i
know of it....


>
> >    Thanks for advices
> >>    Lukas
> >>
> >
> >
> >
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