From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NZtV6-0006cB-If for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:03:08 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 03FD1E0BC4 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:03:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bw0-f215.google.com (mail-bw0-f215.google.com [209.85.218.215]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E2CE091A for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:47:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz7 with SMTP id 7so1912470bwz.26 for ; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:47:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=g+5yo0PxORQwVSzmWTerEOGUxAOJu2V8l1QB3cwR7M8=; b=pofehiTssNROZMsJ7R4hzXkHR12qADMfxN3GMlHLKvi9hCcSzElY6SVbze+4jrXPlK yDTkZedpzjGs0+nISzbvHrThQH19LfkFebkPmmrW0w3JXlqs0fw+0G6Sfoi5+BjtBr8+ +/wsBBC4kyOUCEBhCvobXgO+H5CdQUeMuD7ws= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=ZidfGHnjmdaYMzQYy4Z0gXkVBx9keV+RLEHuo+OmwB4VL9n16xM29WVy3YCMYluRFc PhlKc120Bad/CsE0b+B0ESmqtXY6OC+uud/TkictRLdEhMoXsPB3XKjPaapQ07gPAUD7 CAvsaJ6of13a8A70WZgKMlaROLOE7gR7y/9jk= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.24.15 with SMTP id t15mr2784192bkb.113.1264542443461; Tue, 26 Jan 2010 13:47:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <5bdc1c8b1001261155p400fd174nc90742c8fe2e5da3@mail.gmail.com> References: <5bdc1c8b1001261155p400fd174nc90742c8fe2e5da3@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:47:23 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] Virtualization/WinXP From: Marko Obrovac To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00032555bc9a255ef3047e183b4c X-Archives-Salt: d6f1bf3a-cef2-47f1-91ec-1cc0855a579d X-Archives-Hash: 7009f7ebfb742554b763a76d178cd864 --00032555bc9a255ef3047e183b4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hello Mark, 2010/1/26 Mark Knecht > Hi, > OK - with the new machine up and running well enough to do some > work I really need to get some sort of virtualization going to see if > I can get around the fact that XP cannot be installed on this machine. > (at least not easily) I need to run TradeStation and I'd like to try > under Linux but Wine is ABSOLUTELY not an option. > > I ran XP & TS on my older system (5 year old 3GHz AMD64) but it's > been a long time since I tried it. The performance was just OK. I > expect this machine may be acceptable. > > To anyone familiar with this subject a few questions: > > 1) If I go the VMWare route is it vmware-workstation that I want? > AFAIK, vmware-workstation is the not license-free, so you'll have to invest some money in it. You might want to try vmware-player (if you want to go the vmware way). It is free, but it comes with restrictions. The major disadvantage is - you can't create your own images, you can only "play" them. > > 2) Are there any prebuilt XP images that would save me the hassle of > installing Win XP and just allow me to validate with my existing keys? > Is this the purpose of vmware-player? (which doesn't seem to have > fetch restrictions...) > Many sites (like this one: http://www.filestube.com/v/vmware+windows+image) offer you ready-to-go vmdk images. Google will help you find a lot of sites like this one. > > 3) In some ways the most important question is what are the Open > Source alternatives and how easy are they to set up? > There are (at least) three alternatives: VirtualBox ( http://www.virtualbox.org , http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/VirtualBox ), kVM ( http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Main_Page , http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/KVM ) and Qemu ( http://www.qemu.org/ , http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/QEmu ) In my opinion, VirtualBox is a very good (and open source) alternative to VMWare, and if all you need out of the virtualization software is to be able to run TradeStation, I'd definitely go for this one. kVM and Qemu can be a bit confusing for a beginner (in virtualization), and, although they can offer better performance than vbox, I don't think they're worth the hassle for your specific needs. > > For now I'm working from this list of documents and the index in > the upper right: > > http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/VMware_Workstation > > Thanks! > > - Mark > > Hope I helped Marko Obrovac http://www.linkedin.com/in/doorman --00032555bc9a255ef3047e183b4c Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mark,

2010/1/26 Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com= >

2) Are there any prebuilt XP images that would save me the hassle of
installing Win XP and just allow me to validate with my existing keys?
Is this the purpose of vmware-player? (which doesn't seem to have
fetch restrictions...)
=A0Many sites (like this one: <= a href=3D"http://www.filestube.com/v/vmware+windows+image">http://www.files= tube.com/v/vmware+windows+image) offer you ready-to-go vmdk images. Goo= gle will help you find a lot of sites like this one.

3) In some ways the most important question is what are the Open
Source alternatives and how easy are they to set up?
T= here are (at least) three alternatives: VirtualBox ( http://www.virtualbox.org , http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/VirtualBox ),= kVM ( http://www.linux= -kvm.org/page/Main_Page , http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/KVM ) and Qemu ( http://www.qemu.org/ ,=A0http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/QEmu )
In my opinion, VirtualBox is a very good (and open source) alternative to V= MWare, and if all you need out of the virtualization software is to be able= to run TradeStation, I'd definitely go for this one.
kVM and Qemu c= an be a bit confusing for a beginner (in virtualization), and, although the= y can offer better performance than vbox, I don't think they're wor= th the hassle for your specific needs.

=A0 For now I'm working from this list of documents and the index in the upper right:

http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/VMware_Workstation

Thanks!

- Mark


Hope I helped

Marko O= brovac
http://www.linkedi= n.com/in/doorman
=A0

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