[gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[arnuld]

hai,

i have downloaded "amd64-minimal-install CD". the trouble with my
"ADSL modem,  Netgear DG632" is that on LInux it gives problems in
IPv6 mode.   On Fedora Core, Debian & BLAG i have to "stop IPv6" to
make internet work. On BLAG/Fedora, after  installation, i add these
to "/etc/modprobe.conf":

alias net-pf-10 off
alias ipv6 off

i can not add these to Gentoo as it is not installed, not  yet. i need
to download "Stage3 tarball" 1st , So how can i stop IPv6 on Gentoo
*before* installation so that i can access internet and download
"Stage 3 tarball"?

( i have also posted it on "gentoo-users" mailing list, as i was not
sure to where this post should belong)


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[Piotr Jaroszyński]

> i can not add these to Gentoo as it is not installed, not  yet. i need
> to download "Stage3 tarball" 1st , So how can i stop IPv6 on Gentoo
> *before* installation so that i can access internet and download
> "Stage 3 tarball"?

Have you tried rmmod?

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[arnuld]

> > i can not add these to Gentoo as it is not installed, not  yet. i need
> > to download "Stage3 tarball" 1st , So how can i stop IPv6 on Gentoo
> > *before* installation so that i can access internet and download
> > "Stage 3 tarball"?
>
> Have you tried rmmod?

NO, i havn't. right now i am "googling" for "rmmod ipv6". If you know
some commands please post.

thanks

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[Piotr Jaroszyński]

> NO, i havn't. right now i am "googling" for "rmmod ipv6". If you know
> some commands please post.
As root:
To list modules loaded into kernel:
# lsmod

To remove one of them:
# rmmod module_name

To load:
# modprobe module_name

So rmmod ipv6 will remove the ipv6 module from your kernel(just like your 
alias prevents it from loading) and maybe solve your problem.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[arnuld]

> As root:
> To list modules loaded into kernel:
> # lsmod
>
> To remove one of them:
> # rmmod module_name
>
> To load:
> # modprobe module_name
>
> So rmmod ipv6 will remove the ipv6 module from your kernel(just like your
> alias prevents it from loading) and maybe solve your problem.


thanks a lot buddy, now i will format the Frugalware & will try to
install Gentoo.

BTW, do you have any idea on "Whether Formatting/Partitioning"
destroys the Hard-Drive?". actually, in choosing a Linux Distro for an
experienced Linux user, i formatted my Seagate SATA for more than 50
times :- | , 4 times just today to post problems

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[Sebastian Redl]

arnuld wrote:
> BTW, do you have any idea on "Whether Formatting/Partitioning"
> destroys the Hard-Drive?".
No more than any other read/write operation.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[arnuld]

> > BTW, do you have any idea on "Whether Formatting/Partitioning"
> > destroys the Hard-Drive?".
> No more than any other read/write operation.
>
> Sebastian Redl

thanks, now i have a reilef :-)


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[arnuld]

> As root:
> To list modules loaded into kernel:
> # lsmod
>
> To remove one of them:
> # rmmod module_name
>
> To load:
> # modprobe module_name
>
> So rmmod ipv6 will remove the ipv6 module from your kernel(just like your
> alias prevents it from loading) and maybe solve your problem.

Hey Piotr,

i used "lsmod" after booting from "amd4-minimal-install-CD" and to my
surprise neither "ipv6" nor "net-pf-10" were there :-{ . i think there
was some problem with my ISP (well, my ISP never accepts that). then i
did the following:

1.) changed to "/mnt/gentoo/" a smy current directory

2.) successfully downloaded the "Stage3 tarball" for amd64, checked
its MD5SUM - OK, unzipped it with command:

        "tar xvjf -stage3-tarball-here-"

no problems.

3.) next i downloaded "Portage-latest" from "snapshots" directory at
one of the mirrors. MD5SUM was OK, when i hit the following command:

         "tar -xvjf -latest-portage here-  -C  /usr"

as instructed in the "Gentoo Handbook" then after 20 minutes of
unzipping operation i got 1000s of messages like:

       "CAN NOT OPEN: no such file or directory"

end message was:   "tar exit delayed from previous errors"

what went wrong now? i am trying to install gentoo since 4:00 PM, it's
11 PM now :-(


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[Antoine Martin]

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> 
> as instructed in the "Gentoo Handbook" then after 20 minutes of
> unzipping operation i got 1000s of messages like:
> 
>       "CAN NOT OPEN: no such file or directory"
Lack of disk space?
What does 'df' say?
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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[Antoine Martin]

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Piotr Jaroszyński wrote:
>> i can not add these to Gentoo as it is not installed, not  yet. i need
>> to download "Stage3 tarball" 1st , So how can i stop IPv6 on Gentoo
>> *before* installation so that i can access internet and download
>> "Stage 3 tarball"?
> 
> Have you tried rmmod?
> 
FYI I remember reading and experiencing a similar problem: IPv6 cannot
be removed from a kernel once loaded without a reboot. IIRC, Oracle's
install script failed with IPv6 enabled and required a reboot to install
(and still fail, but later !...)

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[arnuld]

> >         "tar -xvjf -latest-portage here-  -C  /usr"
> >
> > as instructed in the "Gentoo Handbook" then after 20 minutes of
> > unzipping operation i got 1000s of messages like:
> >
> >       "CAN NOT OPEN: no such file or directory"

> Lack of disk space?

can't be.

1.) "/boot"; 120M
2.)  "/"  14G
3.) "swap" 2G

> What does 'df' say?

what is "df"?  well, just Googled for that, means "disk free", did not
try that as did not know :-(


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[arnuld]

> FYI I remember reading and experiencing a similar problem: IPv6 cannot
> be removed from a kernel once loaded without a reboot. IIRC, Oracle's
> install script failed with IPv6 enabled and required a reboot to install
> (and still fail, but later !...)

later what? what happened then?.....or what you did?.....or......  ;-)

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[gentoo-amd64] Re: stopping IPv6

[Duncan]

arnuld <arnuld3@gmail.com> posted
dd685b340612171012o6039622csb54844c4e7822fd5@mail.gmail.com, excerpted
below, on  Sun, 17 Dec 2006 23:42:14 +0530:

>> >         "tar -xvjf -latest-portage here-  -C  /usr"
>> >
>> > as instructed in the "Gentoo Handbook" then after 20 minutes of
>> > unzipping operation i got 1000s of messages like:
>> >
>> >       "CAN NOT OPEN: no such file or directory"
> 
>> Lack of disk space?
> 
> can't be.
> 
> 1.) "/boot"; 120M
> 2.)  "/"  14G
> 3.) "swap" 2G
> 
>> What does 'df' say?
> 
> what is "df"?  well, just Googled for that, means "disk free", did not
> try that as did not know :-(

I'd suggest try "mount", which without options returns a list of mounted
partitions.  It does look like you ran out of disk (or RAM, consider the
ramdisk) space.  I noticed in your sequence you mentioned cding to
/mnt/gentoo, but didn't mention mounting anything, and I'm wondering just
where you were trying to untar everything to -- maybe the ramdisk in
memory?

df/diskfree should give the mounted information as well as free, too, of
course, but as with the others, I'm guessing you tried extracting the
archive to either memory or the wrong partition.


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: stopping IPv6

[arnuld]

> >> Lack of disk space?
> >
> > can't be.
> >
> > 1.) "/boot"; 120M
> > 2.)  "/"  14G
> > 3.) "swap" 2G
> >
> >> What does 'df' say?
> >
> > what is "df"?  well, just Googled for that, means "disk free", did not
> > try that as did not know :-(
>
> I'd suggest try "mount", which without options returns a list of mounted
> partitions.  It does look like you ran out of disk (or RAM, consider the
> ramdisk) space.  I noticed in your sequence you mentioned cding to
> /mnt/gentoo, but didn't mention mounting anything, and I'm wondering just
> where you were trying to untar everything to -- maybe the ramdisk in
> memory?

of course, i mounted all partitions: " /boot & /" & after that i did
"cd /mnt/gentoo". "/boot" was mounted into "/mnt/gentoo/boot", "/" was
mounted into "/mnt/gentoo"
"sawp" was "made on" by using "swapon" command.

> df/diskfree should give the mounted information as well as free, too, of
> course, but as with the others, I'm guessing you tried extracting the
> archive to either memory or the wrong partition.

Is this the only reason for my problem?


> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
> and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman

NOW, this had put a  great impact on my brain.....
(BTW, i respect RMS a lot but never knew he said that, thanks for
telling this to the world)


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[gentoo-amd64] Re: stopping IPv6

[Duncan]

arnuld <arnuld3@gmail.com> posted
dd685b340612180034w5824d795p492f214ee2a81cdf@mail.gmail.com, excerpted
below, on  Mon, 18 Dec 2006 14:04:47 +0530:

>> df/diskfree should give the mounted information as well as free, too, of
>> course, but as with the others, I'm guessing you tried extracting the
>> archive to either memory or the wrong partition.
> 
> Is this the only reason for my problem?

Well, I've learned to be rather careful using words like "only" and
"all" without some sort of escape clause, since it takes only a single
exception to disprove the case.  However, running out of room is the case
must of us are familiar with that would trigger that error (as should be
obvious given you had essentially three people suggest the same cause),
and the usual reason for that is that one is extracting to a location that
didn't have the free space one expected -- because it's not the location
one had in mind.

Another possibility in the same vein... Are you sure you created your
partitions correctly?  IOW, you didn't make it say 40960 KB (40 MB) instead
of 40960000-odd KB (40 GB), right?  Again, the output from df should
make such a mistake immediately clear, if you did.

Yet another variant on the theme would be if you messed up fstab,
assigning / to the small partition you intended for /boot, or something
like that.

>> "Every nonfree program has a lord, a master -- and if you use the
>> program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman
> 
> NOW, this had put a  great impact on my brain..... (BTW, i respect RMS a
> lot but never knew he said that, thanks for telling this to the world)

It was in an interview I read on one of the computer mag sites.  I used to
include the link as well, but decided that was a bit heavy for a sig, so
don't now.  However, a bit of quick googling points to this from late 2004:

http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html

It's well worth reading, both on the freedom theme and because much of the
material discussed, the freeing of Solaris and Java, is just as topical
now if not more so than it was then, what with Java being GPLv2ed, and
some hints coming out of Sun that it /might/ actually consider relicensing
Solaris under the GPLv3 if it likes the look of the final license.  What
with Linux staying hard GPLv2 and the opposition of the Linux kernel
hackers to GPLv3, if Solaris /does/ go GPLv3 along with most of the
GNU software family, and with Tivoizing and the possible fallout from the
MS/Novell deal, things could quickly get /very/ (as in /extremely/)
interesting in the world of freedom software.

(I had to delete several paragraphs and force myself to be content with
only the above, or this could easily become a multi-hundred line post on
that alone. =8^)

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: stopping IPv6

[arnuld]

> Well, I've learned to be rather careful using words like "only" and
> "all" without some sort of escape clause, since it takes only a single
> exception to disprove the case.  However, running out of room is the case
> must of us are familiar with that would trigger that error (as should be
> obvious given you had essentially three people suggest the same cause),
> and the usual reason for that is that one is extracting to a location that
> didn't have the free space one expected -- because it's not the location
> one had in mind.

abyway, i am suing BLAg to read this email. also downloading "Linux
>From Scratch LiveCD". tomorrow morning i will try Gentoo.

> Another possibility in the same vein... Are you sure you created your
> partitions correctly?  IOW, you didn't make it say 40960 KB (40 MB) instead
> of 40960000-odd KB (40 GB), right?  Again, the output from df should
> make such a mistake immediately clear, if you did.

partitons were correct. damn-sure :-)

> Yet another variant on the theme would be if you messed up fstab,
> assigning / to the small partition you intended for /boot, or something
> like that.

i havn't even touched fstab.


> It was in an interview I read on one of the computer mag sites.  I used to
> include the link as well, but decided that was a bit heavy for a sig, so
> don't now.  However, a bit of quick googling points to this from late 2004:
>
> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html

hey thanks BUDDY ;-)

> It's well worth reading, both on the freedom theme and because much of the
> material discussed, the freeing of Solaris and Java, is just as topical
> now if not more so than it was then, what with Java being GPLv2ed, and
> some hints coming out of Sun that it /might/ actually consider relicensing
> Solaris under the GPLv3 if it likes the look of the final license.  What
> with Linux staying hard GPLv2 and the opposition of the Linux kernel
> hackers to GPLv3, if Solaris /does/ go GPLv3 along with most of the
> GNU software family, and with Tivoizing and the possible fallout from the
> MS/Novell deal, things could quickly get /very/ (as in /extremely/)
> interesting in the world of freedom software.
>
> (I had to delete several paragraphs and force myself to be content with
> only the above, or this could easily become a multi-hundred line post on
> that alone. =8^)

If you have saved the "deleted" lines, send them to me. i want to read
them & If you have some time , create a BLOG of that "multi-hundred
line post  BUT 1st email them to me, i will feel happy to have a draft
version 8-)



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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[Koef]

On Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 11:06:58PM +0530, arnuld wrote:

>         "tar -xvjf -latest-portage here-  -C  /usr"

You can't extract to the CDROM's /usr directory.

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[Sergio Polini]

Please, let me be foolish.

arnuld:
> 1.) changed to "/mnt/gentoo/" a smy current directory
>
> 2.) successfully downloaded the "Stage3 tarball" for amd64, checked
> its MD5SUM - OK, unzipped it with command:
>
>         "tar xvjf -stage3-tarball-here-"
>
> no problems.
>
> 3.) next i downloaded "Portage-latest" from "snapshots" directory
> at one of the mirrors. MD5SUM was OK, when i hit the following
> command:
>
>          "tar -xvjf -latest-portage here-  -C  /usr"
>
> as instructed in the "Gentoo Handbook" then after 20 minutes of
> unzipping operation i got 1000s of messages like:
>
>        "CAN NOT OPEN: no such file or directory"

Antoin Martin:
> Lack of disk space?

arnuld:
> can't be.
>
> 1.) "/boot"; 120M
> 2.)  "/"  14G
> 3.) "swap" 2G

Duncan:
> I noticed in your sequence you mentioned cding to
> /mnt/gentoo, but didn't mention mounting anything,
> and I'm wondering just where you were trying to untar
> everything to -- maybe the ramdisk in memory?

arnuld:
> of course, i mounted all partitions: " /boot & /"
> & after that i did "cd /mnt/gentoo". "/boot" was mounted
> into "/mnt/gentoo/boot", "/" was mounted into "/mnt/gentoo"
> "sawp" was "made on" by using "swapon" command.

Koef:
>>         "tar -xvjf -latest-portage here-  -C  /usr"
>
> You can't extract to the CDROM's /usr directory.

Right. It should be:

tar xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr

However, my foolish 2 cents are: you "mounted all partitions", but did 
you attach the filesystem created on device /dev/hdaX or /dev/sdaX at 
the directory /mnt/gentoo? Did you
mount /dev/[hs]da[1-9] /mnt/gentoo ?

I know, it's a foolish question....
I beg your pardon

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[arnuld]

> tar xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr
>
> However, my foolish 2 cents are: you "mounted all partitions", but did
> you attach the filesystem created on device /dev/hdaX or /dev/sdaX at
> the directory /mnt/gentoo? Did you
> mount /dev/[hs]da[1-9] /mnt/gentoo ?

Of course i did.... and i also created a "/boot" directory into it
after mounting & mounted the "/boot" partition there. tell me one
thing if these  2 sets of commands do the same thing:

[SET 1]
# cd /mnt/gentoo/
# tar xvjf  portage-latest.tar.bz2

[SET 2]
# tar xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr

i used SET 1 & i think both are same as i alrady did CD intp "/mnt/gentoo".

> I know, it's a foolish question....
> I beg your pardon

dont worry about "pardon" :-)

just ask question whenever in doubt :-)


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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[Piotr Jaroszyński]

> [SET 1]
> # cd /mnt/gentoo/
> # tar xvjf  portage-latest.tar.bz2
>
> [SET 2]
> # tar xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr
>
> i used SET 1 & i think both are same as i alrady did CD intp "/mnt/gentoo".
Nope, you should have done cd /mnt/gentoo/usr in "SET 1".

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[Sergio Polini]

arnuld:
> tell me one thing if these  2 sets of commands do the same thing:
>
> [SET 1]
> # cd /mnt/gentoo/
> # tar xvjf  portage-latest.tar.bz2
>
> [SET 2]
> # tar xvjf /mnt/gentoo/portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C /mnt/gentoo/usr
>
> i used SET 1 & i think both are same as i alrady did CD intp
> "/mnt/gentoo".

Your previous SET 1 was:

# cd /mnt/gentoo/
# tar -xvjf -latest-portage here-  -C  /usr

but, as Koef pointed, was wrong.
Try SET 2, or the following SET 1 variant:

# cd /mnt/gentoo/
# tar -xvjf -latest-portage here-  -C usr

because "-C /usr" is not the same as "-C /mnt/gentoo/usr".

HTH

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Re: [gentoo-amd64] stopping IPv6

[arnuld]

> Your previous SET 1 was:
>
> # cd /mnt/gentoo/
> # tar -xvjf -latest-portage here- -C /usr
>
> but, as Koef pointed, was wrong.
> Try SET 2, or the following SET 1 variant:
>
> # cd /mnt/gentoo/
> # tar -xvjf -latest-portage here-  -C usr
>
> because "-C /usr" is not the same as "-C /mnt/gentoo/usr".

OOPS! , one "/" made my life worse ;-)

BTW, i am writing this reply in windowmaker running Gentoo :-)

> HTH

of course it helped, thanks a lot Sergio




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[gentoo-amd64] Re: stopping IPv6

[Duncan]

arnuld <arnuld3@gmail.com> posted
dd685b340612192046o16c626abo4aaaa9efa3784a81@mail.gmail.com, excerpted
below, on  Wed, 20 Dec 2006 10:16:58 +0530:

> OOPS! , one "/" made my life worse ;-)
> 
> BTW, i am writing this reply in windowmaker running Gentoo :-)

Glad we could help you figure it out. =8^)

(BTW, re the other subthread, I had deleted those lines referenced, but
will likely mail you some musings on the topic anyway.  With Christmas
coming up and no family in the area to do the expected social thing with,
as any good geek, I'll be just as happy spending the extra time on my
computer. =8^)

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