From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KVqon-0005fk-J8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:45:57 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 925D1E0387; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.184]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345F7E037F for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:45:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c7so267419nfi.26 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:45:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=90KXM/R1GALKmLn7ctfcwrwHgPUCqOkli2zqcdfB2fo=; b=HsLSONZNYpD8wZAl5RKX60hUTnNUJIax2XlVvJUfRjg5o8Z11uvYiMIe/24/M4RJRB 5iw62KZ6XEHyNQgk/kGhEhYLFWeqQgdJa78MtRlzy4V8VNCeM+83iYnx/UwwSvktrnFy bH67CItIQAo8yLZBFCmioFNhhRsRqNeVjzm6w= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=EcMvg1xub4c29jp9Jjz+Sz3+oma7pfQaYiWG6TJfruTFmXMR2q3yVs9wnumCrPMgs2 pMv/czfnU1itPL9kqqdJg8XaKO648V8x1lZcV1lDcahoibIMr2n8jki+fIzD/tXb4juw NRFvdt4Qja9DRaX2mEJ/4QkqIf6DAKtMURzoo= Received: by 10.210.61.8 with SMTP id j8mr354802eba.94.1219250755291; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.19.6 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:45:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 16:45:55 +0000 From: Beso To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] KDE4 desktop effects In-Reply-To: <48AC3C32.7050906@ercbroadband.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_54082_7496266.1219250755302" References: <48AC2845.1000307@ercbroadband.org> <48AC2EA4.7030502@ercbroadband.org> <48AC3384.7010000@ercbroadband.org> <48AC3C32.7050906@ercbroadband.org> X-Archives-Salt: ded48235-cd5d-4904-af8f-a8ccc3b7fe24 X-Archives-Hash: 6f43485bc9c5e4468d14ab63a9cd52e1 ------=_Part_54082_7496266.1219250755302 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/20 Mark Haney > Beso wrote: > > >>> >> well, the radeon driver for me works with compiz-fusion and kde4 (either >> emerald or kwin-decorator-4) and is fantastic. also drm, exa and 2d video >> playback is fantastic. >> the only drawback is the following: >> you'll need to use live ebuilds from the x11-overlay. i've been with them >> for about 6 months now and i can tell you that everything works very well >> (no instability or similar issues). >> before starting to use them i'd advice you to tell me what board you have >> and, since probably is equal to one of my 2 laptop boards (x200m rs480 or >> x12xx, rs690) i can pass you all the configs to have everything working. a >> full live xorg build (a partial one would cause you some instability >> issues) >> that includes xorg-protos, xorg-libs, xorg-server, mesa, drivers would >> take >> about 3-4 hours, but you might be forced to reinstall all kde4 after that >> (this happens often after a new rebuild of xorg-git) and so you'll still >> need around the old 3.5 installation. in fact i have compiz enabled by >> default on that one and i start it manually on kde4 since sometime it has >> some issues on startup with setting the kwindecorator4. >> if you'll tell me that you'll be willing to use this method i'll prepare a >> walkthrough of everything you'll need to install, in which order, what >> overlays you'll need to use (you'll want desktop-effects for >> compiz-fusion) >> and what options you'll want to enable and use on the board. to do >> everything in a fine way you'll probably take about one day of work >> (including xorg-modular rebuild and kde4 rebuild). >> also i reccomend the setup of portage-tmpfs on /tmpfs so that the >> compilation speed would drammatically increase. >> let me know if you're interested. if you're not then you won't be able to >> use any desktop effect (not on kde3.5 or on kde4) and since i find out >> some >> compiz effects very PRODUCTIVE for business environments (i didn't >> understood this until i've used compiz for about a week) it would be a >> shame >> not to use it. >> >> > I am all for it. Please enlighten me. My laptop has a Radeon XPress 200M. > The box is a Compaq Presario R4000 and I"ve had it for about 3 years now. > It's been the most rock solid laptop I've ever owned and it runs like a > scalded dog on compiles. I'm interested in getting all the info I can on > getting this to work. > this is the almost the same of my old laptop. i'm now leaving home from work, but if not this evening (after some hours) tomorrow in the morning i'll prepare the list of stuff to do for your board and some interesting sites that you can control for updates on radeon drivers. it's some instants that phoronix has unveiled the following: Catalyst 8.8 delivers CrossFire support on Linux, OverDrive overclocking > support, adaptive anti-aliasing support, and other improvements. > here is the article from the rss feed: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_catalyst_evolution&num=1 maybe i'll also give it a try with the fglrx driver in the next days on another system and see how these improvements work... -- dott. ing. beso ------=_Part_54082_7496266.1219250755302 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
2008/8/20 Mark Haney <mhaney@ercbroadband.org>
Beso wrote:



well, the radeon driver for me works with compiz-fusion and kde4 (either
emerald or kwin-decorator-4) and is fantastic. also drm, exa and 2d video
playback is fantastic.
the only drawback is the following:
you'll need to use live ebuilds from the x11-overlay. i've been with them
for about  6 months now and i can tell you that everything works very well
(no instability or similar issues).
before starting to use them i'd advice you to tell me what board you have
and, since probably is equal to one of my 2 laptop boards (x200m rs480 or
x12xx, rs690) i can pass you all the configs to have everything working. a
full live xorg build (a partial one would cause you some instability issues)
that includes xorg-protos, xorg-libs, xorg-server, mesa, drivers would take
about 3-4 hours, but you might be forced to reinstall all kde4 after that
(this happens often after a new rebuild of xorg-git) and so you'll still
need around the old 3.5 installation. in fact i have compiz enabled by
default on that one and i start it manually on kde4 since sometime it has
some issues on startup with setting the kwindecorator4.
if you'll tell me that you'll be willing to use this method i'll prepare a
walkthrough of everything you'll need to install, in which order, what
overlays you'll need to use (you'll want desktop-effects for compiz-fusion)
and what options you'll want to enable and use on the board. to do
everything in a fine way you'll probably take about one day of work
(including xorg-modular rebuild and kde4 rebuild).
also i reccomend the setup of portage-tmpfs on /tmpfs so that the
compilation speed would drammatically increase.
let me know if you're interested. if you're not then you won't be able to
use any desktop effect (not on kde3.5 or on kde4) and since i find out some
compiz effects very PRODUCTIVE for business environments (i didn't
understood this until i've used compiz for about a week) it would be a shame
not to use it.


I am all for it.  Please enlighten me. My laptop has a Radeon XPress 200M.  The box is a Compaq Presario R4000 and I"ve had it for about 3 years now.  It's been the most rock solid laptop I've ever owned and it runs like a scalded dog on compiles.  I'm interested in getting all the info I can on getting this to work.

this is the almost the same of my old laptop. i'm now leaving home from work, but if not this evening (after some hours) tomorrow in the morning i'll prepare the list of stuff to do for your board and some interesting sites that you can control for updates on radeon drivers.
it's some instants that phoronix has unveiled the following:

Catalyst 8.8 delivers CrossFire support on Linux, OverDrive overclocking support, adaptive anti-aliasing support, and other improvements.

here is the article from the rss feed:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_catalyst_evolution&num=1

maybe i'll also give it a try with the fglrx driver in the next days on another system and see how these improvements work...

--
dott. ing. beso
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