From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KVpY6-0000oB-Vv for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:24:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9BE1E03B8; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:24:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com (nf-out-0910.google.com [64.233.182.189]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53DB1E03B8 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:24:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c7so252856nfi.26 for ; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:24:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=TDRpQzrH7OsrhVim5gtPwcoDGtIbqM0bZnWygQ2sNDs=; b=Mv8KLDFzDQzmuOHVgONjIxD4OaB7rNanNOKGKZJrPBBuMJ3z2oZ0WEnKf5zzY00OaW ISxXc6yaazBXiag6CHkua6REWwInSz3DABG244Zj0xHcHE8Hz0z4yGg2GBUesVOXrw3s vE79tYOfCEgqsSrhwCVbhuLGntzYnTRx9EWo4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=tjxpemUqRRymTDkkLFYpZQ2pSfUK4veYEqaeKIiihaTtw0P7isJxGtLWf5SrcMVbii F8bNaBbdGZ2CxxbJFNgVhVGPMRt6nSId7OZZKs2B5YW3MDx0EDYygLObDJJG31ndH7aA 7CgKwJog/EqjT6ussldE/Itook8Ygg0HRcyl8= Received: by 10.210.48.14 with SMTP id v14mr244195ebv.196.1219245876424; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.210.19.6 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:24:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:24:36 +0000 From: Beso To: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-amd64] KDE4 desktop effects In-Reply-To: <48AC3384.7010000@ercbroadband.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-amd64@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_52678_24772054.1219245876425" References: <48AC2845.1000307@ercbroadband.org> <48AC2EA4.7030502@ercbroadband.org> <48AC3384.7010000@ercbroadband.org> X-Archives-Salt: 6ee8ce79-4841-481a-adc0-49cc7abe9a79 X-Archives-Hash: b650acafedb859612d9e7f5a2cb7c5f0 ------=_Part_52678_24772054.1219245876425 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline 2008/8/20 Mark Haney > Beso wrote: > > >> this is due either to the driver not supporting something or some of its >> misconfigurations or to something missing (protos or libs in >> xorg-modular). >> it would be useful to see your xorg.conf, know what driver you're using >> and >> what board you're using, glxinfo output and what use confs you have on >> xorg-server and on your libdrm and x11-drm and what versions of these >> packages you're using. >> >> > Ah, that might be the problem, I am using the opensource 'radeon' driver > for my laptop. I don't have drm enabled on this box because I never could > get the ATI driver to work. I bet that's the problem. > > Does the radeon driver have DRM? Last I read, it didn't. Or not very > well. > well, the radeon driver for me works with compiz-fusion and kde4 (either emerald or kwin-decorator-4) and is fantastic. also drm, exa and 2d video playback is fantastic. the only drawback is the following: you'll need to use live ebuilds from the x11-overlay. i've been with them for about 6 months now and i can tell you that everything works very well (no instability or similar issues). before starting to use them i'd advice you to tell me what board you have and, since probably is equal to one of my 2 laptop boards (x200m rs480 or x12xx, rs690) i can pass you all the configs to have everything working. a full live xorg build (a partial one would cause you some instability issues) that includes xorg-protos, xorg-libs, xorg-server, mesa, drivers would take about 3-4 hours, but you might be forced to reinstall all kde4 after that (this happens often after a new rebuild of xorg-git) and so you'll still need around the old 3.5 installation. in fact i have compiz enabled by default on that one and i start it manually on kde4 since sometime it has some issues on startup with setting the kwindecorator4. if you'll tell me that you'll be willing to use this method i'll prepare a walkthrough of everything you'll need to install, in which order, what overlays you'll need to use (you'll want desktop-effects for compiz-fusion) and what options you'll want to enable and use on the board. to do everything in a fine way you'll probably take about one day of work (including xorg-modular rebuild and kde4 rebuild). also i reccomend the setup of portage-tmpfs on /tmpfs so that the compilation speed would drammatically increase. let me know if you're interested. if you're not then you won't be able to use any desktop effect (not on kde3.5 or on kde4) and since i find out some compiz effects very PRODUCTIVE for business environments (i didn't understood this until i've used compiz for about a week) it would be a shame not to use it. -- dott. ing. beso ------=_Part_52678_24772054.1219245876425 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline
2008/8/20 Mark Haney <mhaney@ercbroadband.org>
Beso wrote:


this is due either to the driver not supporting something or some of its
misconfigurations or to something missing (protos or libs in xorg-modular).
it would be useful to see your xorg.conf, know what driver you're using and
what board you're using, glxinfo output and what use confs you have on
xorg-server and on your libdrm and x11-drm and what versions of these
packages you're using.


Ah, that might be the problem, I am using the opensource 'radeon' driver for my laptop.  I don't have drm enabled on this box because I never could get the ATI driver to work.  I bet that's the problem.

Does the radeon driver have DRM?  Last I read, it didn't.  Or not very well.

well, the radeon driver for me works with compiz-fusion and kde4 (either emerald or kwin-decorator-4) and is fantastic. also drm, exa and 2d video playback is fantastic.
the only drawback is the following:
you'll need to use live ebuilds from the x11-overlay. i've been with them for about  6 months now and i can tell you that everything works very well (no instability or similar issues).
before starting to use them i'd advice you to tell me what board you have and, since probably is equal to one of my 2 laptop boards (x200m rs480 or x12xx, rs690) i can pass you all the configs to have everything working. a full live xorg build (a partial one would cause you some instability issues) that includes xorg-protos, xorg-libs, xorg-server, mesa, drivers would take about 3-4 hours, but you might be forced to reinstall all kde4 after that (this happens often after a new rebuild of xorg-git) and so you'll still need around the old 3.5 installation. in fact i have compiz enabled by default on that one and i start it manually on kde4 since sometime it has some issues on startup with setting the kwindecorator4.
if you'll tell me that you'll be willing to use this method i'll prepare a walkthrough of everything you'll need to install, in which order, what overlays you'll need to use (you'll want desktop-effects for compiz-fusion) and what options you'll want to enable and use on the board. to do everything in a fine way you'll probably take about one day of work (including xorg-modular rebuild and kde4 rebuild).
also i reccomend the setup of portage-tmpfs on /tmpfs so that the compilation speed would drammatically increase.
let me know if you're interested. if you're not then you won't be able to use any desktop effect (not on kde3.5 or on kde4) and since i find out some compiz effects very PRODUCTIVE for business environments (i didn't understood this until i've used compiz for about a week) it would be a shame not to use it.

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dott. ing. beso
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